christian bull shit again...
 

Eagle Rock church erases $5.3 million in medical debt for poor L.A. area families

what a bunch of assholes :disgust

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...angeles-county

In an astounding Christmas gift, an Eagle Rock church is wiping out $5.3 million in medical debt for thousands of low-income Los Angeles area residents.

Using more than $50,000 worth of donations from parishioners, Christian Assembly Church is working with a debt-forgiveness nonprofit to help erase bills for 5,555 households who earn less than twice the federal poverty level.

Twenty-eight cities in Los Angeles County were selected for the debt-relief program based on neighborhoods where church members live. Areas represented by 15 or more households from within the church community were chosen, including the city of Los Angeles, Azusa, Hollywood, San Gabriel, Sylmar and Glendale.

“We are able to give a Christmas gift to the people of Los Angeles, no strings attached,” pastor Tom Hughes announced to cheers and a standing ovation during the church’s Christmas services last weekend.

The Catholic Church donates something like $150-$200 billion worldwide on operating schools, hospitals and feeding the poor of all races and religious denominations. Wonder how much islam spends feeing and caring for non-muslims?

This is a wonderful bit of news! And it is very "Christian" of them; however:

This act is an exception to the overwhelming rule of churches enriching a top few with vast wealth at the expense of the masses of followers. The Joel Osteens, Billy Grahams and Joyce Meyers of the world are sadly just a few examples of the bilking of the faithful by narcissistic egomaniacs; and the lavishness of most large churches speak for themselves in pointing out where most of their money goes.

The world could use many more examples like Eagle Rock Church's actions, so kudos to them!


I don't believe it for one second. Can you source this claim?

About the same as that number you stated, I can source it if you want. It's part of Islamic culture (zakat), especially during ramadan. There's just no bragging involved.

The Economist Estimates the Catholic Church Spent $171,600,000,000 in 2010

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...00000-in-2010/


The Economist estimates that annual spending by the church and entities owned by the church was around $170 billion in 2010 (the church does not release such figures). We think 57% of this goes on health-care networks, followed by 28% on colleges, with parish and diocesan day-to-day operations accounting for just 6% and national charitable activities just 2.7% (see chart). In total, Catholic institutions employ over 1m people, reckons Fred Gluck, a former McKinsey managing partner and co-founder of the National Leadership Roundtable on Church Management, a lay organisation seeking to improve the way the church is run. For purposes of secular comparison, in 2010 General Electric’s revenue was $150 billion and Walmart employed roughly 2m people

since there is no central authority for Islam, be very hard to find a figure. while it is well documented that many mosque fund terrorism under the guise of charity :2 cents:

What the hell changed with conservatives?

The entire purpose of conservatives and churches is to take care of those who are in need. Churches used to help feed and house the homeless, and help them with healthcare. Conservatives used to support immigrants, legal or not.

Somewhere along the line the conservatives have pushed this over to the government, and then when in office they cut off as much aid as possible.

It's disgusting.

A true or perfect christian would have donated everything he owns . . .

10% of gross is the rule :2 cents:

Richard all this shit is in your mind , churches still help. for some reason you INSIST all conservatives are religious. they are not, any more than all dems want 1000 genders. :2 cents:

you and king mark are racist assholes, stop hiding behind being black. you are giving black people a bad name. don't you have a drive by or something to do? I heard there were a few kids out you could shoot. take killer crockett with you... might be a black republic there :thumbsup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFxu6F3ZXA




:1orglaugh

second time: Sherman Hensley is one of the nicest guys I ever worked with. in fact the entire cast other than Tim Reid were great people. :thumbsup

Sherman Hensley is not the star in this video you dumb fuck.
Try naming the White guy.

:1orglaugh

No it spends most of the billions on missionaries who spread catholicism...worst charity ever...

https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/s...Africa_001.jpg

Africa disagrees with you.

In total, the church operates more than 140,000 schools, 10,000 orphanages, 5,000 hospitals and some 16,000 other health clinics.

No other religion in the world comes close with charity work than the Catholic Church.

sounds good

The entire purpose of a church is to control the masses nothing has changed.

Whitey will return to Jesus, even though I don't want it.

Moral universalism is just another jewish temptation.

Many of these muslim "charity" organizations are known to funnel money to or are flat out fronts for islamic terrorist organizations.

Uh, no. They spend IN TOTAL 171 Billion per year, of which, 2.7% is for charities (4.7 Billion) per The Economist. Each of the 270 Bishops make independent spending decisions.

The 171B includes salaries for over 1 Million people, rents, electricity, heating, repair, health care, fund raising, travel. Keep in mind that the Catholic Church is the largest real estate owner and landlord in many cities such as New York so it has huge real estate related expenses. The Catholic Church also spends significant funds spreading anti-contraception and anti-abortion messaging, operating womens "health" centers that focus on stopping abortion and lobbying and influencing governments and law worldwide. It also fights against sex abuse law, spending Millions to keep its pedophile and child molesting priests out of jail.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...t-sex-n1013776

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/catho...b0e63eda9726a1

"he Catholic Church has spent at least $10.6 million lobbying against legislation that gives sexual abuse victims more time to seek justice in courts ― and that’s in the Northeast alone, according to a new report.

Church funds have gone toward attempts to oppose statute-of-limitations reform in Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island between 2011 and 2018, the report released by four law firms on Tuesday suggested.



The law firms ― Williams Cedar, Seeger Weiss, Abraham Watkins, and Simpson Tuegel ― have collectively represented more than 300 survivors of clerical sexual abuse across the country. They obtained the data about the church’s lobbying efforts from public filings.

Gerald Williams, a partner at Williams Cedar, said the church’s lobbying contradict its promises to prioritize victims and take accountability for clerical sexual abuse.

“We’ve heard a lot about the church’s desire to be accountable and turn over a new leaf,” Williams told CBS. “But when we turn to the form where we can most help people and where we can get the most justice — the courts of justice — the church has been there blocking their efforts.”

$2M here:
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...icle-1.2655010

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/...st/1742969002/

$3M here in Pennslyvania:
Millions spent fighting laws that would help sex abuse victims seek compensation and justice.

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/...st/1742969002/


Disgusting.

Yes the catholic church has been embroiled in all kinds of fucked up shit but to pretend they don't do any good is crazy.

The Church runs 5,500 hospitals, 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, with 65 percent of them located in underdeveloped and developing countries.

What other religion is doing that much good?

Does the Catholic church provide half of social services in the U.S.?

^ Here's politifact trying to debunk Former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating who said said Catholic charities do half the social-service charity in the U.S.

Their take:We’re admittedly using a bit of guesswork, but Catholic charity seems to account for 17 percent to 34 percent of all nonprofit social-service charity, depending on how generous an estimate you make.

So that's a lot of charity and a lot of people that rely on them.



But besides all that, I bet you don't have a negative thing about islam who is very close in size to the catholic church but doesn't do a fraction of the charity work. Oh and in 2019 muslims committed 1724 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 10109 people were killed and 10512 injured.

But you won't dare say boo about that.

The Catholic church is far from innocent and has a huge amount of blood on its hands.. It is centrally run, a business organization dedicated to protecting itself at all costs as in WW2 when it allowed millions to die, and did not stand up to Hitler, etc. It has hundreds of Billions of dollars. There is no equivalant with Muslims. The Catholic church sponsored mercenaries and slaughter of innocents, killing Millions for centuries and now protects child rapists.

Wherever you got these Muslim numbers for attacks, etc, you should post it. usually wounded will be much higher than dead, so your numbers are suspect. And you should compare to murders done by Catholics, right?

What the Catholic church does , what you call, "Charity" is mainly for its survival, to convert non-catholics, brain-wash pregnant women, and get new Catholic's financial support. It is not out of altruism. If you reads history, the Catholic church has been amost always corrupt. How many heretics were burned at the stake? Pope Martin V in 1428 had a philosopher named John Wycliffe dug up and burned at the stake AFTER the man was dead.

Read this for more wicked things the Catholic Church did, like genocide:

https://listverse.com/2011/06/08/top...holic-history/

Pope Clement V in 1307 issued a Papal Bull on Nov 22 to have ALL the Christian Tempar Knights tortured on the rackm, testicles crushed in vices, etc. and ALL killed - because they had great financial wealth and political power.

The Catholic Church put Galelio on trial and kept him in house arrest for 9 years until he died, because he learned / believed the Earth was NOT the center of the Universe, contrary to the Church's teachings. Only in 1758 did it lift its ban on teaching the truth of the plantets orbits, 350 years later...

Joan of Arc - burned to death by the Catholic Church because she wore a piece of a man's clothing while in prison - a "crime" punishable by death. And she was refused Holy Communion so she would go to Hell. Where was the mercy? Nowhere.

The Inquisitions took place over 700 years, millions tortured with no mercy and killed when they refused to convert to Christianity. The Church has been very brutal and killed
somewhere between 120 and 150 Million in the Middle ages alone.

In the 1940's the Catholic Church tortured and killed ONE MILLION men, women and children in Croatia.

In 1994, 800,000 masacred in Rwanda with support by the Church.

300,000 babies stolen from mothers by Catholic Church in Spain between 1930 - 1990

1941 - 1945 - The Roman Catholic Ustashi in Yugoslavia butchered Hundreds of thousands of Yugoslav citizens, Serbs, Jews and Roma. And Hundreds of thousands were forced to convert to Catholicism.

1949 - 1953 - With the support from the Columbian government, the Roman Catholic Church had 60,000 Protestants and non-Catholics shot, drowned and emasculated. Pope Pius XII awarded the Columbian President with one of the highest awards the church can give

Secret History of the Roman Catholic Church

Sorry man but the Catholic Church through history has been one corrupt, killing machine. Do some research.