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  • kane
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Aug 2001
    • 20684

    #1

    Obamacare in trouble again

    In Texas a judge ruled that since Obamacare no longer has the individual mandate (it was repealed in Trump's tax cut bill) it no longer collects taxes therefore it is unconstitutional. Yesterday the case was heard before an appeals court and while there hasn't been a ruling yet (and may not be for a while) experts suggest that the court is leaning towards siding with the Texas judge.

    If so, that would likely put Obamacare back in front of the Supreme Court right in the middle of next year's election.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamaca...onstitutional/

    If Trump and the Republicans get what they want, we will really find out just how popular Obamacare is or is not.

    I, for one, only hope that whatever version we end up with still allows me to get insurance with a preexisting condition.
  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #2
    Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA.

    Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that

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    • crockett
      in a van by the river
      • May 2003
      • 76818

      #3
      Originally posted by Vendzilla
      Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA.

      Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate
      Trump has done nothing to replace Obamacare, he only has attacked it because Obama did it.

      Trump lies everyday and you believe every word. You being an idiot will cost tens of thousands of people their lives because they will lose their access to heath care. You are the typical piece of shit saying I got mine fuck everyone else..
      In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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      • kane
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Aug 2001
        • 20684

        #4
        Originally posted by Vendzilla
        Trump has made it clear he wants the existing conditions covered. I pay for healthcare for my wife and I, add to that I can use the VA.

        Got a good deal considering all the high prices out there, joined in with a group that gets a better rate
        He says that, but both of the plans the Republicans voted on and didn't pass would have made it a lot harder for people with preexisting conditions to afford the coverage. I'll believe him when I actually see it. It's not like he lies or anything.

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        • Vendzilla
          Biker Gnome
          • Mar 2004
          • 23200

          #5
          Originally posted by kane
          He says that, but both of the plans the Republicans voted on and didn't pass would have made it a lot harder for people with preexisting conditions to afford the coverage. I'll believe him when I actually see it. It's not like he lies or anything.
          Been nothing but lies with Obamacare, or the PPACA as I learned is the actual name for it. Had to read a lot of it, it really is bad. O had to understand a lot of it to get my license to sell health and life insurance. I stayed away from health insurance. Too many questions from clients and no money in it for an agent. I don't sell either now, new adventure has been going on for a year and I'm enjoying it, be doing this till I retire
          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
          think about that

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          • beerptrol
            Confirmed Asshole
            • Feb 2003
            • 12722

            #6
            Trump and the republicans are liars. They don't want preexisting conditions covered. Look at their actions.

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            • kane
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Aug 2001
              • 20684

              #7
              Originally posted by Vendzilla
              Been nothing but lies with Obamacare, or the PPACA as I learned is the actual name for it. Had to read a lot of it, it really is bad. O had to understand a lot of it to get my license to sell health and life insurance. I stayed away from health insurance. Too many questions from clients and no money in it for an agent. I don't sell either now, new adventure has been going on for a year and I'm enjoying it, be doing this till I retire
              I'm not saying Obamacare is perfect. It is far from and has problems. That said, right now I can buy health insurance and not go bankrupt doing so. When the dust settles around all this, no matter what we end up with, I hope I can still do the same.

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              • 2MuchMark
                Mark of 2Much.net
                • Aug 2004
                • 51109

                #8
                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                Been nothing but lies with Obamacare
                Really? Lies are where YOU draw the line? LOL! The man who's ass you'd lovingly lick lies dozens of times a day, and you yourself have been caught red-handed lying to GFY'ers TWICE recently. Shut the fuck up with your bullshit already.

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #9
                  The PPACA did a lot of damage, but hope we can get back to basics

                  Just saw on the news Trump signed a directive about Kidney care, I know he mentioned work on an over haul of healthcare insurance a little while ago, the man stays busy
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • crockett
                    in a van by the river
                    • May 2003
                    • 76818

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                    Been nothing but lies with Obamacare, or the PPACA as I learned is the actual name for it. Had to read a lot of it, it really is bad. O had to understand a lot of it to get my license to sell health and life insurance. I stayed away from health insurance. Too many questions from clients and no money in it for an agent. I don't sell either now, new adventure has been going on for a year and I'm enjoying it, be doing this till I retire
                    You of all people talking about lies. You were one of the idiots here on GFY that was claiming Obamacare was gonna have death panels..


                    Yea we have death panels all right, it's called the GOP because they refuse to work in the best interests of Americans and instead allow tens of thousands to die every year because they have no access to basic heathcare and preventable illnesses.
                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                    • TheSquealer
                      Chief Complaint Officer
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 26300

                      #11
                      Obama Care is awesome!
                      - No Doctor Ever
                      .
                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                      Rochard

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                      • kane
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 20684

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheSquealer
                        Obama Care is awesome!
                        - No Doctor Ever
                        Actually not true at all.

                        https://www.latimes.com/science/scie...125-story.html

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                        • TheSquealer
                          Chief Complaint Officer
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 26300

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kane
                          so... the vast majority of them were unhappy Obama Care and wanted it changed.... according to the survey the ultra far left LA Times cites?
                          .
                          Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                          Rochard

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                          • kane
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 20684

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheSquealer
                            so... the vast majority of them were unhappy Obama Care and wanted it changed.... according to the survey the ultra far left LA Times cites?
                            Did you read it?

                            It says "the opening months of 2015, 48% of primary care physicians had a favorable opinion of the Affordable Care Act and 52% viewed it unfavorably.

                            It also says, "Among the survey's most striking findings was strong support for an extension of the Affordable Care Act that is absent from any GOP proposals: Two-thirds of primary care physicians endorsed the idea that any healthcare reform should include a public insurance option resembling Medicare that would compete with private plans."

                            So, you know, about half of doctors like it and two thirds of them think there should be a public option that directly competes with private insurance. In short, a lot more doctors than none (your words) like it.

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                            • GAMEFINEST
                              Make STACK$
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 14472

                              #15
                              here we go again
                              Compound interest.

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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #16
                                Originally posted by kane
                                That said, right now I can buy health insurance and not go bankrupt doing so.
                                We are now paying over $1,700 a month for a really good insurance plan I've had for the last 17 years.
                                Before ObamaCare it was less than $500 a month.

                                And we are all in good health.

                                ObamaCare has been a money pit for my family.
                                -Robbie
                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                • BaldBastard
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 16885

                                  #17
                                  Trump backtracks on drug rebate rule in major blow to pricing effort

                                  https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthca...pricing-effort

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                                  • Vendzilla
                                    Biker Gnome
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 23200

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                    We are now paying over $1,700 a month for a really good insurance plan I've had for the last 17 years.
                                    Before ObamaCare it was less than $500 a month.

                                    And we are all in good health.

                                    ObamaCare has been a money pit for my family.
                                    It's all the little things that will kill you!
                                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                    think about that

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