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GrandeRevenueMark 07-09-2019 10:34 PM

Is there really no market for SD content?
 
Hey there,

these days I tried to sell an archive of SD content (high-res webcam quality) that don't fit our needs. Many people contact me and when I told them it was SD they all said me "there's no market for them".

My question is: how's possible?

As affiliate actually my best converting sites have just shitty quality images (that pretend to be video screen caps). If the niche is "leaked webcams" (not real ... we have 2257 docs) the quality can't be 4k with amazing light.

:error

Major (Tom) 07-09-2019 10:45 PM

640x480 ? 720x480?

GrandeRevenueMark 07-09-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22498714)
640x480 ? 720x480?

Mainly 640x480, something 16:9

Major (Tom) 07-09-2019 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22498715)
Mainly 640x480, something 16:9

It seems people don’t care much about 4k as no one has 4k monitors. 1080 60p is standard and more than adequate— especially with a pro camera. I just can’t seeing going back to SD. I’m toying with rereleasing a site that’s shot in SD & i’m torn. Basically you need minimum compression. Probably around 3-4 gb a movie for it to work today.. essentially, you’d need to render at hardly any compression directly from the captured tape

Ds

NaughtyRob 07-09-2019 11:07 PM

It depends what type of content, if its amateur content it should still sell but certainly not as much as HD which I started shooting in like 2008.

Major (Tom) 07-09-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 22498723)
It depends what type of content, if its amateur content it should still sell but certainly not as much as HD which I started shooting in like 2008.

I agree. Almost would have to marketed as gf stuff. One would have to own the flaws and use that as a strength

Paul Markham 07-10-2019 12:12 AM

It depends how good it is, not the size or SD or HD.

Major (Tom) 07-10-2019 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22498738)
It depends how good it is, not the size or SD or HD.

Yes, for sure, but good sd isnt as good as good hd

GrandeRevenueMark 07-10-2019 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22498726)
I agree. Almost would have to marketed as gf stuff. One would have to own the flaws and use that as a strength

Yes in fact they are ex gf/bf stuff. So totally "in line" with the niche.

MaDalton 07-10-2019 06:16 AM

you say webcam quality - but the content is not webcam style, do i understand that correctly?

GrandeRevenueMark 07-10-2019 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22498851)
you say webcam quality - but the content is not webcam style, do i understand that correctly?

It's webcam style. Gay niche. The reproduce the idea of two guys "doing" thing in front a webcam.

MaDalton 07-10-2019 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22498858)
It's webcam style. Gay niche. The reproduce the idea of two guys "doing" thing in front a webcam.

well then i don't see that much of an issue with SD - i know that webcam style content is rare but much sought after - don't know about the gay market though.

but for many clients it seems more a psychological issue, people who buy in bulk don't look at individual videos whether they are good or bad - that just want a huge amount and be able to slap an HD logo on it cause it sounds better.

The Porn Nerd 07-10-2019 08:46 AM

Put it out there. If it's gay content it will sell.

Gays will buy anything if it shows two dudes doing it.

celandina 07-10-2019 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandeRevenueMark (Post 22498710)
Hey there,

these days I tried to sell an archive of SD content (high-res webcam quality) that don't fit our needs. Many people contact me and when I told them it was SD they all said me "there's no market for them".

My question is: how's possible?

As affiliate actually my best converting sites have just shitty quality images (that pretend to be video screen caps). If the niche is "leaked webcams" (not real ... we have 2257 docs) the quality can't be 4k with amazing light.

:error

Most decent labs will take any of this stuff and uprez it to HD. On one of my mainstream movies ( from the late 90ties) shot on 35 mm but with the film master long gone, we have uprezed to 4 fucking K from digiFucking Beta and made 4:3 convert to 16fucking : 9 :1orglaugh and Amazon Prime took it :thumbsup

bronco67 07-10-2019 01:16 PM

I'll watch a 360p scene with hot girls having good sex, shot well before I'll watch a 4k scene with poorly shot, mediocre girls not getting fucked properly.

Quality is measured on the boner-meter, not in pixels or frame rates.

mce 07-10-2019 01:19 PM

Give it away for free and make money off the aff ref program signups - people have to get on your mailing list to hook up with the freebies

Robbie 07-10-2019 01:25 PM

I took all of our SD scenes and used a program by Red Giant called "Insta 4K" to re-encode it to HD (it will take them all the way to 4K as well).

Did that a few years back. It revitalized our members area.

It's VERY intense on your computers CPU and GPU. Takes about a freakin' day to do a 30 minute scene. But it's worth it.
The program identifies each pixel and then duplicates it several times.

I highly recommend it. But it took me a few weeks of rendering to get all our old scenes up to snuff. And I have a pretty bad ass work computer for video.

Robbie 07-10-2019 01:26 PM

Here it is:
https://www.redgiant.com/products/shooter-instant-4k/

NaughtyRob 07-10-2019 01:31 PM

Looks like its well worth the $99 price.

bronco67 07-10-2019 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 22499143)
Looks like its well worth the $99 price.

It can only do so much. You can maybe go from 1080p to 4k, but SD to 4k is a big jump and anyone who knows anything about pixel interpolation will tell you it's not going to look as good.

It's better than nothing...but don't expect a miracle tool to transform old shitty video into sparkling, crisp 4k.


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