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crockett 04-15-2019 09:00 PM

Fox News can't even keep the socialist Medicare for all bogyman at bay..
 
Bernie Sanders did his agreed Town Hall at Fox News with a Fox News audience.. When they asked if they wanted Sanders Madicare for all, the crowed erupted in cheers and nearly every single person in the audience raised their hand yes..


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-theyd-support


So why is it Republicans do not want to give the people want we want? Fox news can't even keep that hushed away..

crockett 04-15-2019 09:01 PM

The White House blasted Sanders's proposal, however, adding to its past criticism of single-payer plans.

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders called the plan a "total government takeover of health care that would actually hurt seniors, eliminate private health insurance for 180 million Americans, and cripple our economy and future generations with unprecedented debt."


Why do Republicans hate the people of this country?

astronaut x 04-15-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453020)
The White House blasted Sanders's proposal, however, adding to its past criticism of single-payer plans.

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders called the plan a "total government takeover of health care that would actually hurt seniors, eliminate private health insurance for 180 million Americans, and cripple our economy and future generations with unprecedented debt."


Why do Republicans hate the people of this country?


For the Trumps...
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RedFred 04-15-2019 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453019)

So why is it Republicans do not want to give the people want we want?

Because they are bought by big pharma and the insurance industry.


GOP = Greed Over People

BaldBastard 04-15-2019 10:35 PM

I still think America needs a system more like Australia's, where there is free health care for all.. but 60% of us still have some sort of insurance and health care is a mixture of private and government funded.

Everyone pays a 2% Medicare levy on their income over $27,000 per year.
Any private medical insurance you take out is fully deductible against that.

So for the VAST majority nothing changes except instead of paying extra tax, your claiming it back.

Matt 26z 04-16-2019 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453019)
When they asked if they wanted Sanders Madicare for all, the crowed erupted in cheers

Was there a followup question to see if they were willing to pay 20% more in taxes to get it?

pimpmaster9000 04-16-2019 01:07 AM

you are a corrupt country...everything about you is corrupt to the very core...you even have institutionalized corruption with professional "lobbyists" in place...what stands in the way of your noticing this is the blind nationalist brainwash where you believe you are something special...better than others...immune to corruption because you have "checks and balances" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

we are laughing at you...you are funny :2 cents::thumbsup:1orglaugh

crockett 04-16-2019 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22453066)
Was there a followup question to see if they were willing to pay 20% more in taxes to get it?

They asked the room 1st if they had 3rd party insurance via their jobs or private insurance. 90% of the room raised their hands which was obvious it was even a stacked Fox news audience because we all know 90% of Fox news viewers do not have healthcare coverage...

Yet even though all those people were paying for private heath insurance they all raised their hand for Medicare for all...


If you are paying for heath insurance you are paying a minimum of $100/week already... Obama care didnt even raise people's tax cost by 20%. Everyone with a brain knows that single payer will cost us less than 3rd party it will cost us less than what we pay now..

Also why isn't Trump worried about cost of his weekly golf trips? Why is he not worried about the 10 or 20 billion for his wall? Why is he not worried about the ridiculious military spending that he increased? Oh hi but suddenly we have to worry about costs because Republicans hate Americans and would rather people die than fix heathcare access..

crockett 04-16-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22453079)
you are a corrupt country...everything about you is corrupt to the very core...you even have institutionalized corruption with professional "lobbyists" in place...what stands in the way of your noticing this is the blind nationalist brainwash where you believe you are something special...better than others...immune to corruption because you have "checks and balances" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

we are laughing at you...you are funny :2 cents::thumbsup:1orglaugh

Shut up Serb or we will bomb your house again..

tony286 04-16-2019 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22453066)
Was there a followup question to see if they were willing to pay 20% more in taxes to get it?

You pay for healthcare if you work for someone else some part of it and then the co pays . So it would be a wash and for most a better deal.

Hawkeye 04-16-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453019)
Bernie Sanders did his agreed Town Hall at Fox News with a Fox News audience.. When they asked if they wanted Sanders Madicare for all, the crowed erupted in cheers and nearly every single person in the audience raised their hand yes..


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-theyd-support


So why is it Republicans do not want to give the people want we want? Fox news can't even keep that hushed away..


America's proletariat has mostly been fiscally liberal and socially conservative, for all of our history.

Except the two political parties given to us never give us what we want. The Democrats are fiscally liberal and socially liberal (a recipe for disaster, as we've seen), while the Republicans are fiscally conservative and socially conservative. While the Republican plan isn't a recipe for disaster, it's full of contradictions and uselessness, and has never actually conserved anything.

So along comes Donald Trump to shake things up, and the CIA-corporate-political establishment absolutely freaks the fuck out because the goyim aren't playing by the rules anymore.

Then Bernie offers Medicare for all, and people cheer. Because it's generally a good idea.

Except it won't work. The same Leftists who want Medicare for all, also want to give it to every single illegal alien who manages to cross the border, which means the system will be unworkable.

These generous welfare states only work in small countries full of white people, like Denmark and Finland. They don't work in multi-cultural dystopias like the modern USA.

Acepimp 04-16-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453019)
So why is it Republicans do not want to give the people want we want? Fox news can't even keep that hushed away..

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453020)
Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders called the plan a "total government takeover of health care that would actually hurt seniors, eliminate private health insurance for 180 million Americans, and cripple our economy and future generations with unprecedented debt."

Why do Republicans hate the people of this country?

Hey dumbass- Sarah Sanders is correct. You're just too dumb to understand that a complete government takeover of anything is bad. The ACA was a failure. People's premiums skyrocketed. It was a fraud to enrich Obama's insurance company buddies. Dumbass.

RedFred 04-16-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22453314)
Hey dumbass- Sarah Sanders is correct. You're just too dumb to understand that a complete government takeover of anything is bad. The ACA was a failure. People's premiums skyrocketed. It was a fraud to enrich Obama's insurance company buddies. Dumbass.

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pimpmaster9000 04-16-2019 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 22453262)
These generous welfare states only work in small countries full of white people, like Denmark and Finland. They don't work in multi-cultural dystopias like the modern USA.

yes yes skin color decides it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 04-16-2019 09:35 AM

The United States federal government already does healthcare in large numbers.

When I was in the military, everything was covered. Free of charge. No charges, no co-payments, no costs for medication. It didn't matter if you had the flu or a life changing operation.

Why can't our government do this on a larger scale?

OneHungLo 04-16-2019 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22453347)
yes yes skin color decides it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

40%+ of blacks and hispanics are on welfare vs 13% of whites in the US.

Yes, it does matter.

pimpmaster9000 04-16-2019 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22453361)
40%+ of blacks and hispanics are on welfare vs 13% of whites in the US.

Yes, it does matter.

those blacks grew up in a white system...your product, your responsibility...

OneHungLo 04-16-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22453363)
those blacks grew up in a white system...your product, your responsibility...

So I guess nobody is responsible for their own actions. Sure

Oh and show me where blacks are successful and create or maintain anything close to a first world society. Show me where this is so I can confirm they are capable of it, and whites are possibly holding them down.

pimpmaster9000 04-16-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22453364)
So I guess nobody is responsible for their own actions. Sure

you can not start talking about their responsibility before examining yours because its your system....you made them and the chain of responsibility starts with you...

as for your other dribble, you first show me were whites did not enslave blacks and exploit for centuries LOL...what a joke...

OneHungLo 04-16-2019 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 22453262)
Except it won't work. The same Leftists who want Medicare for all, also want to give it to every single illegal alien who manages to cross the border, which means the system will be unworkable.

These generous welfare states only work in small countries full of white people, like Denmark and Finland. They don't work in multi-cultural dystopias like the modern USA.

This is 100% correct. That's why people wishing for the 2040s, where whites could potentially be a minority, do not understand that they are calling for the collapse of the US.

NO_WAY_IN_FUCKING_HELL can a 30-40% white population support a 60-70% black and brown population. It will collapse.

OneHungLo 04-16-2019 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22453366)
you can not start talking about their responsibility before examining yours because its your system....you made them and the chain of responsibility starts with you...

But show me where they've created successful, prosperous and safe societies. If you can't show me that they are capable of creating or maintaining one, how can you blame whites for them not being able to function in one?

12clicks 04-16-2019 10:02 AM

Amongst the intelligent we understand that paying into the current Medicare system for a future benefit is not socialism. Medicare for all, while not contributing, is. We also know the cheering was from the Bernie supporters FOX agreed to allow into the audience as part of the agreement to get Sanders to show up. Christ, no wonder you kids remain on society's bottom rung.........

pimpmaster9000 04-16-2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22453369)
But show me where they've created successful, prosperous and safe societies. If you can't show me that they are capable of creating or maintaining one, how can you blame whites for them not being able to function in one?

you fist show me where they were left to live in peace like westerners...you exploited the living shit out of them for centuries and now you want me to show you their success? you must be drunk LOL

crockett 04-16-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 22453370)
Amongst the intelligent we understand that paying into the current Medicare system for a future benefit is not socialism. Medicare for all, while not contributing, is. We also know the cheering was from the Bernie supporters FOX agreed to allow into the audience as part of the agreement to get Sanders to show up. Christ, no wonder you kids remain on society's bottom rung.........

So then why do your Republican cult leaders call Medicare and Social Security "entitlements"?

Hawkeye 04-16-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22453348)
The United States federal government already does healthcare in large numbers.

When I was in the military, everything was covered. Free of charge. No charges, no co-payments, no costs for medication. It didn't matter if you had the flu or a life changing operation.

Why can't our government do this on a larger scale?


Because the 13% use the government safety net as a hammock.

crockett 04-16-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 22453479)
Because the 13% use the government safety net as a hammock.

So what do you say about self proclaimed billionaires who take govt grants intended for small businesses hurt by the 9/11 attacks?


Is that kind of leaching off the tax payers tit acceptable being it was your "Dear Leader" who did it? Is that ok or does that outrage you?


https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...n-9-11-105833/


Please explain why it was ok for your dear leader to suck off the govt tit and take money intended to help businesses rebuild after 911. Trump himself stated multiple times his properties took no damage from the attacks on 911.

Why is your Dear Leader a leech?

12clicks 04-17-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453381)
So then why do your Republican cult leaders call Medicare and Social Security "entitlements"?

because you're entitled to them since you paid for them? :1orglaugh

holy christ, kid.........

Rochard 04-17-2019 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22453381)
So then why do your Republican cult leaders call Medicare and Social Security "entitlements"?

I hate it when they call these "entitlements". These are not "entitlements" - We all paid into this.

crockett 04-17-2019 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 22453822)
because you're entitled to them since you paid for them? :1orglaugh

holy christ, kid.........

Perhaps stop drinking so early? I know being on the roof all day is tough job, but perhaps try not to drink so early as it's less likely that you will fall off again..

Bladewire 04-17-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22453826)
I hate it when they call these "entitlements". These are not "entitlements" - We all paid into this.

What else would you call them?

crockett 04-17-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22453929)
What else would you call them?

Benefits.. No one calls insurance a entitlement even though you pay for it, so why should Social Security or Medicare be called entitlements. The only reason Republicans call them this is because they want to vilify it and make their dumb voters think it's govt hand outs which would give them ability to kill it and steal all the money. Their end goal is to do just that, kill it and steal all our money so they call it entitlements so they can brainwash dumb ones into thinking it's bad..

Social Security, Medicare is a "Benefit" of being an American, paying your taxes & working..


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