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Bladewire 03-24-2019 12:45 PM

Barr's 4 page summary Mueller report states Trump is "not exonerated". Not innocent!
 

"While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him" on whether he obstructed justice, Mueller said in the report, according to Barr's summary.

"The conclusions will be transmitted by the Attorney General and are expected to be made public a short time after."

"Providing Mueller's "principal conclusions," as Barr has referred to them"

Why doesn't Mueller tell us his principle conclusions?

Why does Barr feel the need to interpret Mueller's principal conclusions as a middle man?

Acepimp 03-24-2019 12:47 PM

"The special Counsel's investigation did NOT find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election."

Bladewire 03-24-2019 12:49 PM

AG Barr's summary of Mueller report has been sent to Congress

The conclusions of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on President Donald Trump has been sent to Congress at approximately 3:45 p.m. ET, a Department of Justice official says.

Attorney General William Barr transmitted his summary findings to lawmakers and they are expected to be made public a short time after.

Providing Mueller's "principal conclusions," as Barr has referred to them, to lawmakers comes after the transmission of Mueller's report to Barr on Friday that concluded an investigation which has resulted in the indictments of 34 people, infuriated the president and threw the administration into turmoil.

The long-awaited end of the probe came almost two years after Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump" and "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."

Among those who have been criminally charged are Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn; former campaign chairman Paul Manafort; longtime ex-political adviser Roger Stone; former personal lawyer Michael Cohen; and numerous Russian nationals. There have been a number of guilty pleas and convictions — but none of the charges have directly accused Trump or anyone in his orbit of conspiring with Russians to help Trump get elected in 2016.

There will be no more indictments now that the probe is over, NBC News has learned.

Trump refused be interviewed with Mueller — his lawyers said they were concerned about a "perjury trap" — but he did submit written responses to the special counsel's questions in November.

OneHungLo 03-24-2019 12:55 PM

https://i.imgur.com/BoIimDf.jpg

DukeSkywalker 03-24-2019 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439319)

"While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him" on whether he obstructed justice, Mueller said in the report, according to Barr's summary.

"The conclusions will be transmitted by the Attorney General and are expected to be made public a short time after."

"Providing Mueller's "principal conclusions," as Barr has referred to them"

Why doesn't Mueller tell us his principle conclusions?

Why does Barr feel the need to interpret Mueller's principal conclusions as a middle man?


No need to be exonerated from a crime that was never committed

OneHungLo 03-24-2019 12:58 PM

Exonerated from what? There wasn't even a crime to begin with.

DukeSkywalker 03-24-2019 12:59 PM

No more drip drip, morons

kane 03-24-2019 01:01 PM

So it sounds like they say Trump and his team didn't collude with Russia, but may have committed obstruction of justice, there just isn't enough evidence to prosecute.

When the full report is released there will likely be more detail as to how they came to these conclusions.

Fair enough. Investigation 1 down, 16 more to go.

DukeSkywalker 03-24-2019 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22439330)
So it sounds like they say Trump and his team didn't collude with Russia, but may have committed obstruction of justice, there just isn't enough evidence to prosecute.

When the full report is released there will likely be more detail as to how they came to these conclusions.

Fair enough. Investigation 1 down, 16 more to go.

The point you are missing is the loss of credibility the msm suffered. It was a witch hunt. People know better now to believe anything cnn/msnbc says

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:07 PM

Here's the full 4 page summary via PDF so the alt-right lies can quickly be debunked :winkwink:

Acepimp 03-24-2019 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 22439330)
So it sounds like they say Trump and his team didn't collude with Russia, but may have committed obstruction of justice, there just isn't enough evidence to prosecute.

When the full report is released there will likely be more detail as to how they came to these conclusions.

Fair enough. Investigation 1 down, 16 more to go.

The summary report states that there was no obstruction.

https://coedmagazine.files.wordpress...ality=88&w=469

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:16 PM

And AssPimple creates a thread title stating a lie. Of course *sigh*

kane 03-24-2019 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22439335)
The point you are missing is the loss of credibility the msm suffered. It was a witch hunt. People know better now to believe anything cnn/msnbc says

This will have no effect on MSNBC. The people who watch that channel want to believe and they will either believe this was some kind of a cover up or that there is more to the story we don't know. They aren't going to suddenly start watching FOX.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:20 PM

According to the summary Mueller left it to Barr to decide on charging Trump with obstruction of justice and Barr, of course, would never do that.

Remember Barr is the one who helped cover up the Iran-Contra affair. He also wrote a 20 page letter to the DOJ, before applying to be AG, about how the Russia investigation was illegitimate.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:24 PM

Page 2 of the reports states there were 2 main Russian efforts to fix the 2016 election for Trump.

The first was social media IRA trolls and bots.

The second is Russia hacked computer systems to gather and disseminate information in a way to hurt the Clinton campaign.

He also came to the conclusion that Russia hacked the DNC emails.

TheSquealer 03-24-2019 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439344)
And AssPimple creates a thread title stating a lie. Of course *sigh*

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDSLqTFVoAA1Sx_.jpg

Acepimp 03-24-2019 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439344)
And AssPimple creates a thread title stating a lie. Of course *sigh*

NO I DIDN'T YOU LYING CLOWN.

It's Official: There was NO Trump-Russia Collusion

"The special Counsel's investigation did NOT find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election."

"Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.".

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Get some facts (and accept them) you lying clown.

:pimp

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:31 PM

Page 3 of the report states that Mueller left it up to AG Barr to decide whether to indict Trump on obstruction of justice.

Barr states after considering the evidence he declined to charge Trump with obstruction of justice.

Acepimp 03-24-2019 01:32 PM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...57&oe=5D1A31D8

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:36 PM

Page 4 of the report Barr gives a couple excuses as to why the Mueller report he releases will be extremely redacted and not include any of the info Mueller found that caused him to find that Trump could be charged with obstruction of justice because having the info public could interfere with other current investigations.

Acepimp 03-24-2019 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439359)
Page 4 of the report Barr gives a couple excuses as to why the Mueller report he releases will be extremely redacted and not include any of the info Mueller found that caused him to find that Trump could be charged with obstruction of justice because having the info public could interfere with other current investigations.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...47&oe=5D08D288

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

wehateporn 03-24-2019 01:49 PM


aimike 03-24-2019 01:49 PM

Complete and total exoneration for the President.
This is very bad news for Democrats.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:54 PM

Here's a text version of Barr's interpretation of the Mueller report:

PAGE 1

On Friday, the Special Counsel submitted to me a "confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions" he has reached, as required by 28 C.F.R. § 600.8(c). This report is entitled "Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election." Although my review is ongoing, I believe that it is in the public interest to describe the report and to summarize the principal conclusions reached by the Special Counsel and the results of his investigation.

The report explains that the Special Counsel and his staff thoroughly investigated allegations that members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump, and others associated with it, conspired with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, or sought to obstruct the related federal investigations. In the report, the Special Counsel noted that, in completing his investigation, he employed 19 lawyers who were assisted by a team of approximately 40 FBI agents, intelligence analysts, forensic accountants, and other professional staff. The Special Counsel issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:56 PM

PAGE 2

The Special Counsel obtained a number of indictments and convictions of individuals and entities in connection with his investigation, all of which have been publicly disclosed. During the course of his investigation, the Special Counsel also referred several matters to other offices for further action. The report does not recommend any further indictments, nor did the Special Counsel obtain any sealed indictments that have yet to be made public. Below, I summarize the principal conclusions set out in the Special Counsel's report.

Russian Interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election. The Special Counsel's report is divided into two parts. The first describes the results of the Special Counsel's investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The report outlines the Russian effort to influence the election and documents crimes committed by persons associated with the Russian government in connection with those efforts. The report further explains that a primary consideration for the Special Counsel's investigation was whether any Americans - including individuals associated with the Trump campaign - joined the Russian conspiracies to influence the election, which would be a federal crime. The Special Counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election. As the report states: "[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

The Special Counsel's investigation determined that there were two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election. The first involved attempts by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election. As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated with the IRA in its efforts, although the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian nationals and entities in connection with these activities.

The second element involved the Russian government's efforts to conduct computer hacking operations designed to gather and disseminate information to influence the election. The Special Counsel found that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks. Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election. But as noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple. offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:57 PM

PAGE 3

Obstruction of Justice. The report's second part addresses a number of actions by the President - most of which have been the subject of public reporting - that the Special Counsel investigated as potentially raising obstruction-of-justice concerns. After making a "thorough factual investigation" into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion - one way or the other - as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as "difficult issues" of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

The Special Counsel's decision to describe the facts of his obstruction investigation without reaching any legal conclusions leaves it to the Attorney General to determine whether the conduct described in the report constitutes a crime. Over the course of the investigation, the Special Counsel's office engaged in discussions with certain Department officials regarding many of the legal and factual matters at issue in the Special Counsel's obstruction investigation. After reviewing the Special Counsel's final report on these issues; consulting with Department officials, including the Office of Legal Counsel; and applying the principles of federal prosecution that guide our charging decisions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense. Our determination was made without regard to, and is not based on, the constitutional considerations that surround the indictment and criminal prosecution of a sitting president.

In making this determination, we noted that the Special Counsel recognized that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President's intent with respect to obstruction. Generally speaking, to obtain and sustain an obstruction conviction, the government would need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person, acting with corrupt intent, engaged in obstructive conduct with a sufficient nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding. In cataloguing the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-ofha-justice offense.

Status of the Department's Review

The relevant regulations contemplate that the Special Counsel's report will be a "confidential report" to the Attorney General. See Office of Special Counsel, 64 Fed. Reg. 37,038, 37,040-41 (July 9, 1999). As I have previously stated, however, I am mindful of the public interest in this matter. For that reason, my goal and intent is to release as much of the Special Counsel's report as I can consistent with applicable law, regulations, and Departmental policies.

Acepimp 03-24-2019 01:57 PM

"The special Counsel's investigation did NOT find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election."

"Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.".

https://i.imgur.com/0fPbbpK.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-24-2019 01:58 PM

PAGE 4

Based on my discussions with the Special Counsel and my initial review, it is apparent that the report contains material that is or could be subject to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6( e ), which imposes restrictions on the use and disclosure of information relating to "matter[ s] occurring before [a] grand jury." Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e)(2)(B). Rule 6(e) generally limits disclosure of certain grand jury information in a criminal investigation and prosecution. Id. Disclosure of 6( e) material beyond the strict limits set forth in the rule is a crime in certain circumstances. See, e.g., 18 U.S.C. § 401(3). This restriction protects the integrity of grand jury proceedings and ensures that the unique and invaluable investigative powers of a grand jury are used strictly for their intended criminal justice function.

Given these restrictions, the schedule for processing the report depends in part on how quickly the Department can identify the 6( e) material that by law cannot be made public. I have requested the assistance of the Special Counsel in identifying all 6( e) information contained in the report as quickly as possible. Separately, I also must identify any information that could impact other ongoing matters, including those that the Special Counsel has referred to other offices. As soon as that process is complete, I will be in a position to move forward expeditiously in determining what can be released in light of applicable law, regulations, and Departmental policies.

As I observed in my initial notification, the Special Counsel regulations provide that "the Attorney General may determine that public release of' notifications to your respective Committees "would be in the public interest." 28 C.F.R. § 600.9(c). I have so determined, and I will disclose this letter to the public after delivering it to you.

Sincerely,
William P. Barr Attorney General

aimike 03-24-2019 01:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw

Bladewire 03-24-2019 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22439335)
The point you are missing is the loss of credibility the msm suffered. It was a witch hunt. People know better now to believe anything cnn/msnbc says

Mueller said Trump "is not exonerated". His words. It's right there in Barr's report. Mueller deferred on if Trump should be charged and Trump's lackey Barr said no. It's right there in the report summary.

199 criminal charges and 37 indictments. There are people in federal prison because of the Mueller investigation. How are you so daft? :1orglaugh

There is no loss of credibility, other than your alternate reality.

Barr's 4 page "summary" is all political.

Mueller's report will be all facts, and any facts that make Trump look bad will be redacted by Barr.

TheSquealer 03-24-2019 02:07 PM

Haha.. Bladewire melting down - zero evidence is zero evidence

Bladewire 03-24-2019 02:10 PM

Trump claims 'total exoneration' from Mueller summary, despite Mueller stating 'Trump is not exonerated from obstruction of justice'

OneHungLo 03-24-2019 02:19 PM

https://i.imgur.com/D3R2QZh.png

hottoddy 03-24-2019 02:23 PM

The liberals will undoubtedly pick for edible crumbs, but the fact is they are eating a gigantic SHIT SANDWICH.

Acepimp 03-24-2019 02:23 PM

WHY DO YOU KEEP LYING???

"The special Counsel's investigation did NOT find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election."

"Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.".

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bf&oe=5D1A8205

Lying clown :1orglaugh

Bladewire 03-24-2019 02:27 PM

"The Special Counsel states that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

So there's evidence that Trump obstructed Justice and Mueller says Trump is not innocent of obstructing justice :thumbsup

tfto 03-24-2019 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439337)
Here's the full 4 page summary via PDF so the alt-right lies can quickly be debunked :winkwink:

Your conspiracy theory didn't pan out.

Acepimp 03-24-2019 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439397)
"The Special Counsel states that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

So there's evidence that Trump obstructed Justice and Mueller says Trump is not innocent of obstructing justice :thumbsup

YOU ARE A DESPERATE LIAR.

"Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the President committed an obstruction-of-justice offense."

^^ FACTS. Suck it, libtard!

huey 03-24-2019 02:37 PM

Drip, drip, drip lol

Bladewire 03-24-2019 02:39 PM

Why have Trump supporters mistaken Barr's politically biased summary for Mueller's unbiased fact based report?

Bladewire 03-24-2019 03:16 PM

Barr's summary isn't Mueller's unbiased fact based report.

Trump supporters are in deep spinning anything they can for good news as usual.

Mueller report:
-2,800 subpoenas
-19 lawyers
-40 FBI agents
-500 search warrants
-230 orders from communication records
-50 orders authorizing use of penn registers
-13 requests to foreign govs. for evidence
-interviewed about 500 witnesses.

Barr's biased political hit peice summary - 3 1/2 pages

Nothing has changed for anyone that's for or against Trump

MFCT 03-24-2019 03:17 PM

Not exonerated, huh?


tfto 03-24-2019 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439410)
Why have Trump supporters mistaken Barr's politically biased summary for Mueller's unbiased fact based report?

If you spun this around any more you would fall over. That is, if you can get the BBC out of your ass.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 03:30 PM

So Trump is investigated by the FBI for obstruction of justice, they find evidence of his crime and say "Trump is not exonerated".

They then give the decision to prosecute over to Barr, who wrote a 19 page opinion piece on how a sitting president cannot be guilty of obstruction of justice, and Barr decides not to prosecute.

Trump supporters see this as a good thing. Trump supporters are fucking idiots :1orglaugh

Now congress takes up the obstruction charge getting all the info/evidence from Mueller, starting with the House.

Bladewire 03-24-2019 03:56 PM

Now that the FBI has proven that Russia hackef the DNC and influenced the 2016 elections in favor of trump what will trump and the GOP do to protect our 2020 elections?

astronaut x 03-24-2019 04:15 PM


Bladewire 03-24-2019 04:31 PM

Mueller finds evidence of Trump obstructing justice.

Mueller does not exonerate Trump of the crime, does not find him innocent.

Trump supporters claim Trump is exonerated & innocent of obstruction of justice. Why are Trump supporters such fucking idiots?

Trump supporters have no problem spreading lies it's what they do.

Blocked alt-right hate fake nic troll reply in 3.. 2.. 1...

tfto 03-24-2019 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22439482)

Trump supporters claim Trump is exonerated & innocent of obstruction of justice. Why am I such a fucking idiot?

Bladelier has no problem spreading lies it's what he does.

I fixed this for everyone.

Rochard 03-24-2019 05:04 PM

Trump is claiming on Twitter he is "fully exonerated". The letter the AG sent today does not say that. But of course Trump is going to spin it, Fox News is already spinning it, and his base will eat it up alive.

We need to see the full report. The Democrats will push for that. In the mean time, there are other investigations ongoing.

So far as I cam concerned, there was collusion. Trump's campaign manager was feeding the Russians polling data. This is just ONE example of collusion. There are many others.

Rochard 03-24-2019 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22439325)
No need to be exonerated from a crime that was never committed

So you see no issue with Trump's campaign manager passing polling data to Russians?


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