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foe 05-04-2003 08:45 AM

Mazda RX-8
 
Anyone here know stuff about the car, anyone thinking of getting it?

Burtman 05-04-2003 08:48 AM

You can do a search here and read feedback from owners.

http://autos.msn.com/default.aspx?src=autolink


Burtman

asuna 05-04-2003 09:02 AM

new rotary engine, 1.3L, but has like 185HP

LadyMischief 05-04-2003 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by asuna
new rotary engine, 1.3L, but has like 185HP
Wankle engines are the shit.. hard to find mechanics to work on them though. The RX-8 is a fucking rocket. Mmmmmmmmm

asuna 05-04-2003 09:05 AM

i never knew how a rotary engine worked, all I knew it was very very powerful, and very economical

foe 05-04-2003 09:11 AM

I think its like 245 horsepower actually

GoGoBar 05-04-2003 09:14 AM

*cough*ugly*cough*

*cough*slow*cough*

asuna 05-04-2003 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe
I think its like 245 horsepower actually
:eyecrazy yowzaaaa

GoGoBar 05-04-2003 09:15 AM

Actually I shouldn't say slow but it's by no means a "rocket"

And the rear of that car is UGLY.

chupacabra 05-04-2003 09:15 AM

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Wankle engines are the shit.. hard to find mechanics to work on them though. The RX-8 is a fucking rocket. Mmmmmmmmm
i'm a real big rotary fan myself, and have two of the beautiful FD3S's (third-gen RX-7's)... but, the RX-8 seems a step backwards to me, kinda stripped down and crippled in some ways. the new version of the engine (Renesys) isn't going to be possible to add turbochargers or any form of forced-induction like the earlier examples so readily accepted... the intake manifold is solid cast and incorporates very narrow ports, hapmering any aggressive force-feeding.

also, the saturn-style third door is just plain ugly..

foe 05-04-2003 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoGoBar
Actually I shouldn't say slow but it's by no means a "rocket"

And the rear of that car is UGLY.

I dont mind the rear reminds me of a s-2000

foe 05-04-2003 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra


i'm a real big rotary fan myself, and have two of the beautiful FD3S's (third-gen RX-7's)... but, the RX-8 seems a step backwards to me, kinda stripped down and crippled in some ways. the new version of the engine (Renesys) isn't going to be possible to add turbochargers or any form of forced-induction like the earlier examples so readily accepted... the intake manifold is solid cast and incorporates very narrow ports, hapmering any aggressive force-feeding.

also, the saturn-style third door is just plain ugly..

Ouch if the turbo thing is true it will suck

foe 05-04-2003 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by asuna
how does a rotary engine work then?
http://www.mazdarx8.co.uk/rotary/rotaryhow.asp?documentid=1331

GoGoBar 05-04-2003 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe


I dont mind the rear reminds me of a s-2000

I'm talking about the rear roof line not the deck lid.

This is f'in UGLY:
http://www.modernracer.com/images/mazdarx8back2.jpg

(lets hope they allow hotlinking)

corvette 05-04-2003 09:21 AM

nice

http://images.rotarynews.com/images/...26rx8-door.jpg

chupacabra 05-04-2003 09:25 AM

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Ouch if the turbo thing is true it will suck
yeah, its true... at the last tokyo auto-salon showing, they had a Renesys engine bisected into quarters for display purposes along w/ some engineers... we started grilling them immidiately about the intake port configuration, as it is solid cast and literally part of the actual block..! it doesn't come off, ever. i guess you could take a bare block into a machine shop and hack the intake section out, and then fab your own replacement... but the rotor housings themselves have changed shape to accomadate the shortened intake ports, so force-feeding just isn't going to be as effective as we are used to on the earlier 7's... no Haltech E6K fuel goodness, no massive single turbos... i'm truly depressed about the whole thing, if you cant tell..

kad 05-04-2003 09:32 AM

I used to drive an 82 Rx7. It had a 13b twin turbo motor in it and I had it do a 13.4 second 1/4 mile while being street legal. All up I payed A$11k for it (US$6900) and was an awesome car and stupidly fast for the price. A good way for any teen to try and kill themselves (like I did almost daily in that car).

Problem with the rotary engine is it is put together sideways, rather than top down like a piston engine. This means anytime anything breaks inside it, you need to take the whole engine out to repair it.

Lost of fun, but they use tons of fuel!

foe 05-04-2003 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoGoBar


I'm talking about the rear roof line not the deck lid.

This is f'in UGLY:
http://www.modernracer.com/images/mazdarx8back2.jpg

(lets hope they allow hotlinking)

That means that there will be enough headroom back there for an adult to fit :thumbsup

foe 05-04-2003 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kad
I used to drive an 82 Rx7. It had a 13b twin turbo motor in it and I had it do a 13.4 second 1/4 mile while being street legal. All up I payed A$11k for it (US$6900) and was an awesome car and stupidly fast for the price. A good way for any teen to try and kill themselves (like I did almost daily in that car).

Problem with the rotary engine is it is put together sideways, rather than top down like a piston engine. This means anytime anything breaks inside it, you need to take the whole engine out to repair it.

Lost of fun, but they use tons of fuel!

Tons of fuel, actually rotary engines are more fuel efficient.
However if you WOT every time mpg will go down a lot.

... 05-04-2003 11:18 AM

I read an article in Sport Compact Car Magazine about the RX-8. They said that it is common knowledge that the Mazda executives WANT to make a new RX-7 and they WILL if the RX-8 has good sales.

PostWhore 05-04-2003 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe


Tons of fuel, actually rotary engines are more fuel efficient.
However if you WOT every time mpg will go down a lot.

actually rotary engine consume gas like crazy

GoGoBar 05-04-2003 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe


That means that there will be enough headroom back there for an adult to fit :thumbsup

I prefer 2 seats, eliminating the problem in the first place :)

Jizar II 05-04-2003 11:27 AM

:BangBang: Mazda

HQ 05-04-2003 11:30 AM

I saw it in X2, really sweet car!

drunkdollars 05-04-2003 11:37 AM

Not a huge import fan but I have seen some crazy rx-7 drag cars. Atleast they are rear wheel drive .. \




http://www.mazdarx8.co.uk/upclose/vi...1324&video=pcf


Cool video .

foe 05-04-2003 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PostWhore


actually rotary engine consume gas like crazy

maybe your right, for some reason I always thought they where more efficient.

pornguy 05-04-2003 02:03 PM

they used a blue on in the new movie Xmen 2.

It looked pretty nice.
But if they put those kind of restrictions on the engine, I woould say that they fucked them selves out of a ton of sales.

foe 05-04-2003 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
they used a blue on in the new movie Xmen 2.

It looked pretty nice.
But if they put those kind of restrictions on the engine, I woould say that they fucked them selves out of a ton of sales.

Yeh i know I still expect the aftermarket support for this car to be huge,

going to see xmen tonight

LadyMischief 05-04-2003 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra


i'm a real big rotary fan myself, and have two of the beautiful FD3S's (third-gen RX-7's)... but, the RX-8 seems a step backwards to me, kinda stripped down and crippled in some ways. the new version of the engine (Renesys) isn't going to be possible to add turbochargers or any form of forced-induction like the earlier examples so readily accepted... the intake manifold is solid cast and incorporates very narrow ports, hapmering any aggressive force-feeding.

also, the saturn-style third door is just plain ugly..

I guess I'm behind the times though..the only RX-7 I had any experience with was a Bonsai.. Ummm.. I think I just creamed thinking about it.

Edit: my bad, it was a 7 not an 8

foe 05-04-2003 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


I guess I'm behind the times though..the only RX-7 I had any experience with was a Bonsai.. Ummm.. I think I just creamed thinking about it.

Edit: my bad, it was a 7 not an 8

:eek7

asuna 05-04-2003 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


I guess I'm behind the times though..the only RX-7 I had any experience with was a Bonsai.. Ummm.. I think I just creamed thinking about it.

Edit: my bad, it was a 7 not an 8

:Graucho

chupacabra 05-04-2003 04:30 PM

Quote:

But if they put those kind of restrictions on the engine, I woould say that they fucked them selves out of a ton of sales.
actually, mazda did this stuff on purpose most likely... remember when the third-gen RX-7 was cancelled for the american market back in '95? that was mostly due to mazda taking massive losses doing warrantied repairs on thirdgen's at the dealerships, they had a lot of problems servicing this car from the beginning... many of the blown motors and torn up turbo systems that mazda had to eat the cost on were due to aftermarket electronics and the like, so mazda doesn't really want too much of a performance aftermarket for this one. if you notice, even though the RX-8 has been out a while in japan, no heavy modding scene has arisen at all, and thats rare for tokyo tuners..

LadyMischief 05-04-2003 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe


:eek7

Ever seen a Bonsai in action? 800+ hp? *droooooools*

LadyMischief 05-04-2003 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra


actually, mazda did this stuff on purpose most likely... remember when the third-gen RX-7 was cancelled for the american market back in '95? that was mostly due to mazda taking massive losses doing warrantied repairs on thirdgen's at the dealerships, they had a lot of problems servicing this car from the beginning... many of the blown motors and torn up turbo systems that mazda had to eat the cost on were due to aftermarket electronics and the like, so mazda doesn't really want too much of a performance aftermarket for this one. if you notice, even though the RX-8 has been out a while in japan, no heavy modding scene has arisen at all, and thats rare for tokyo tuners..

Where there's a will, there's a way. It will come.

foe 05-04-2003 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra


actually, mazda did this stuff on purpose most likely... remember when the third-gen RX-7 was cancelled for the american market back in '95? that was mostly due to mazda taking massive losses doing warrantied repairs on thirdgen's at the dealerships, they had a lot of problems servicing this car from the beginning... many of the blown motors and torn up turbo systems that mazda had to eat the cost on were due to aftermarket electronics and the like, so mazda doesn't really want too much of a performance aftermarket for this one. if you notice, even though the RX-8 has been out a while in japan, no heavy modding scene has arisen at all, and thats rare for tokyo tuners..

That sucks, normally I would assume a turbo voids the warranty

foe 05-04-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Where there's a will, there's a way. It will come.

hopefully :thumbsup

LadyMischief 05-04-2003 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by foe


hopefully :thumbsup

Yeah.. Fast cars make me wet. Actually not all of em, but Rx's generally do.

chupacabra 05-04-2003 05:14 PM

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That sucks, normally I would assume a turbo voids the warranty
all thirdgen's were twin-turbo though... most of the problems came from performance parts being bolted onto the factory engines and turbo system... blow-off valves, headers... some foolhardy types always tried to run nitrous through a rotary as well..

foe 05-04-2003 05:16 PM

Got to give it up to Mazda for not following the pack and sticking with rotary

foe 05-04-2003 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief


Yeah.. Fast cars make me wet. Actually not all of em, but Rx's generally do.

I love the styling on the rx-7 If it wasnt for the engine problems would have probably gotten that over cls

TheViper 05-04-2003 05:20 PM

This car ain't too fast :Graucho

foe 05-04-2003 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheViper
This car ain't too fast :Graucho
Its handling will be sweet

Also you must remember its quiet a light car

TheViper 05-04-2003 05:29 PM

true foe, it will corner very good I think, I don't say it isn't fast, it can be matched by a Honda S2000. :2 cents:

foe 05-04-2003 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheViper
true foe, it will corner very good I think, I don't say it isn't fast, it can be matched by a Honda S2000. :2 cents:
S2000 is a VERY sweet car, but it only seats 2 .... no trunk space, so aimed towards a different crowd.


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