The undemocratic EU
 

Interesting program.



It was about how the UK was forced into holding the referendum by the EU. The EU were against it, their mains fears were if it was lost other countries might follow suit. Also giving the UK any concessions on welfare and migration could mean other countries wanting the same.

All the time you get the impression that nothing should slow down the advancement of a United States of Europe. Not even the people of Europe.

Why would "Contributing" migrants need benefits? :upsidedow

The next program will be interesting. How an insignificant country like Greece nearly brought about the collapse of the Euro.

I really hope that I will spend my retirement more productively

but here's a bump so you don't feel so alone

Spoken like a true Russian. Looks like Paul really did sell, or lease, his GFY account out. Sad

Allready tens of UK companies flew over from the uk to the Netherlands... and more then 100 currently planning too....

European Medicines Agency allready moved from london to Amsterdam...

Brexit will turn out to be a massive clusterfuck for britties...
Just watch it empty... from shithole to sinkhole... next....

Edit: Owh... democracy... lol. You believe in democracy? Democracy where exactly? Exactly where can you show us a working example of pure democracy lol.... The USA? Ruskia? European souvereign countries? where.... just where.... lol

Democracy is the rule of mediocre... Thats why we still live in the feces of 2000 years of christianity. The weak wants democracy. The world needs dictatorship and a new war... because there is still too much bullshit left that needs to be destroyed. Peace is weariness!

The second episode was very interesting. It's about how the fools running the EU fucked up with the Euro. By giving it to countries that have no history of keeping within the spending limits.

Then how the EU tried to rescue the situation. By making banks and non-Euro countries to take a hit. Of course they got told to :321GFY

high school drop out and low skilled button presser paul knows better than EU leaders....he has the superpower of googling random shit and pretending he knows better based on this...paul could learn brain surgery with a 5 second google search...

wait till brexit becomes a massive hit and the UK goes all MAGA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

And not just that , UK was top choice for registering offshore company in world, as it is possible to open a UK company with click of a mouse, allowing you to get instant access to whole EU market.Now, unless you want to target UK market specific, not much incentive to registrar UK company, registering in Cyprus, Malta or Ireland is way better now. And yes, i think democracy thing is overrated anyway- basicly, any difference between dictatorship is how on dictatorship you are screwed by single guy all the time, while in democracy you are gangbanged :1orglaugh

and what is democracy?

It is still possible to make things properly working if they make soft brexit- if they make hard then they will be screwed , far more then what EU wil be screwed. After all swiss and norway are partially in EU, and it working fine for them.

Democracy is far from perfect, but it's the best there is.

The reason the negotiations were fucked from the start was including Parliament and insisting on everything being open. The EU played it clever, gave the responsibility to a few and kept it quiet.

Which is strange seeing how this contradicts my previous post. So to explain. So many parliamentarians were anti any leaving on any basis.Allowing them to vote was a mistake, especially when Labour wouldn't join with the Tories until the Tories had agreed to all their demands.

If the UK leaves the EU will immediately set about doing a trade deal. Instead of getting one from the negotiations. Settling the divorce payment before negotiating terms of the divorce was another mistake.

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Crucifissio wants death to America and flood Europe with terrorists and chaos immigrants.

Anyone complaining about this strategy will be pointed at and called out, mocked and ridiculed.

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For people like Crucifissio is the EU will pour money into their broke ass country plus give it's citizens the right to move to wealthier countries to undercut resident workers. This is a problem for the workers and tax payers of countries like the UK.

The problem with the EU is they believe, think and act as if they're always right. Yet invariably they are wrong. They did handle Brexit brilliantly, a lot of that was with Parliaments help.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47247900

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...he-brexit-deal

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46868194

The most telling comments on whether the UK should hold a referendum came from EU leaders. They're scared other countries would follow suit. This won't work.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=MAR...30.YzlUIoqUlEg

Liberals are losing ground to the Far Right, which is a shame when we know the dangers the Right poses.

UK should be happy that they are leaving stupidity of EU behind.

Omg Paul... this is not the 60s of the previous century anymore... we're almost entering the 22nd century! The way you think you need to protect your labour market... are you a fucking commie or what...??? Jesus fucking Markham man....

Putting money in broke ass countries is meant to create further markets for Western production... Living standards there must improve so BMW and Mercedes can sell their stuff there too...

The right to move to any other EU country is meant so that EU population can follow the jobs within the EU. For example... In the Netherlands right now there are more open vacancies than there are fucking people living there....

The EU is not the problem... the massive amounts of dumbfucks living withing its borders is:2 cents: Nationalist dumbfucks without vision.

So why have wages stagnated for over 50% of the population in the UK?

Would those broke ass countries include all those sinking into further debt?

I agree with you about large companies selling their goods. But with automation, the correlation between large companies prospering linking to the population prospering is bullshit. We would need to go back to the 60s for that to work.

bla bla bla you dumb mother fucker :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the only problem is "paul markhaming"...NOBODY wants to hire the local expensive workers...the poster boy for this is paul markham who moved to CZ to pay models 8euros to show their pussy...he liked the cheap shit so much that he remained to live in a country where he does not even speak the local language :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dumb mother fucker too dumb to understand that keeping local wages high has a detrimental effect on exports...dumb mother fucker is too dumb to see that each problem has 2 sides...dumb mother fucker has the brain power to focus on just 1 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The problem with Struggle4Bucks argument is it only makes the bosses of companies like Merc and BMW richer. It makes the country and the people poorer.

This is easy to explain. People made unemployed or put on low wages and their dependants still exist. They need tax payers money to provide for them. This should be added to the savings of the low wages.

Next is the lower tax revenues. Lower wages = lower tax revenues. Not only income tax, health insurance also hit are all the sales taxes. Retail is taking a hammering, not just because of online shopping. More people with less to spend is another reason.

The argument that taking money from A to give to B so B can buy more. Is stupid, because A now has less money. Then completely fails when B isn't paid the same as A was. Great for companies saving on their wage bills, complete failure for the people.

dumbass paul fails to understand that having an expensive workforce is bad as well...it is too much for his weak brain...

Giving money from A to B so B can buy more is stupid???? DUHHHHH!!!
Who said "giving money away"? Nobody gives money away....
Long term investments in shitholes is something different then giving money away...
Giving money away is throwing money into the toilet. Investing long term means improving shithole-economies so new markets for western products are created.
God doesn't make new land... so men must turn shitholes into new markets... DUHHH.

All the new state of the art highways you drive on nowadays in CZ are paid by EU subventions! I suggets... no I COMMAND you to get your bicycle next time instead, because you don't deserve to drive on OUR EU roads...:1orglaugh:helpme:thumbsup

You still haven't covered my post. Giving money from the UK to Eastern Europe is taking British tax payers money to give to Eastern Europe. Paying the workers in Eastern Europe is less than UK workers. Little new money is created.

The motorways are to speed up transportation from Eastern Europe companies owned by the 1% in back to their main markets in Western Europe. These companies are Western European companies that moved to Eastern Europe because of the low wages.

You need to get on your bike and visit Czech to see how it's being inundated with Western companies. My wife works for one and she's paid a Czech wage, she organises shipping.

I covered it... you just didn´t understand... Nobody is giving money to Eastern Europe. Money is invested in it...

Oh really? So these are private roads the regular population is forbidden to use them?
Most important basic condition for any economy to be effective: infrastructure.

So a brittie living in Eastern Europe who has been complaining about the UK being flooded by non westeners is now also actually complaining about Eastern Europe being flooded by Western companies:1orglaugh Is there anything you won't complain about?

I'm not a stranger to CZ and Eastern Europe.
Well well... your wife must be thankful having a job provided by a western company. She is profiting from the fact Western companies settled in CZ. Of course she is paid a CZ wage... If she wants a UK wage she must move to the UK... DUHHH... Luckily for her tho she doesn't have to pay a £3000 UK rent while living next to alla akbar.
Salaries went up in CZ and continue to go up... Business owners can't offer minimum wage anymore... employees won't accept. In other words a growing group of people are getting paid more and more and are more likely to spend more money on all sorts of products made all over Europe.

Paul... I agree... The UK has become a massive shithole. But the EU is not to blame. In that case the rest of Europe would be a shithole too. Take the Netherlands for example. Not a country that pays more to the EU than the Netherlands. It's economy is booming tho. Money up against the walls. Top notch infrastructure. Tripple A rating. When going outside be careful not to get injured by all the job vacancies flying around your head.

It is the UK that is failing Paul. Not the EU.

We have a different interpretation of the word invested. Yes some of it is invested and some just spent. You cannot deny the money comes from the citizens of the richer nations of the EU. Depriving them of the money.



Didn't dispute that. So why bring it up?



I'm saying moving businesses here is having an effect of the workers in the UK. You confirmed that fact. Those workers now relying of Welfare, money tax payers raise.

Then why is debt rising in so many countries in the EU? https://www.google.com/search?source....Gx0Gm aAdGMI

But we're fine.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=vSV...03.ZmVnXH3esBM

The #1 reason for leaving the EU is for Parliament to regain sovereignty. The continuing chipping away of the power of individual countries governments by the EU shows that their aim is to rule supreme over Europe.

https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/history_en

Pro EU so they make stupid claims. Like peace in Europe. The fact that we still have Russia posing a threat to Europe isn't mentioned. Economic stability can be easier achieved with a simple trade agreement. The Fall of the Berlin Wall has nothing to do with the EU. Europe without frontiers is a two sides coin. The lack of borders is creating a crisis with illegal immigrants.

But this article high lights the EUs growth and it continues to grow. The sooner it's brought down and replaced with a trading deal the better.

you guys should listen to economic master paul whos lifes work is on sale for $500 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Welcome to Paul Markham's early onset dementia blog.

So you admit that Russia is posing a threat to Europe... but you rather live in one of the tiny shitty 30 dwarf states than in a strong united Europe... prefferably with a EU army.:1orglaugh

What does the EU have to do with illigal immigrants. The US also has illegal immigrant problems.... Is the US in the EU? No... you blame the EU for every single problem.... Since when boat fuckers are sailing to Europe? Since the fucking dark ages...
Is there a border problem? Then why dismantle the EU instead of fixing the border problem:1orglaugh

But... you know... it's clear Paul. You should grow a moustache because you are just another ordinary nationalist. Just an ordinary person who cannot outgrow infantile concepts like nationalism.:1orglaugh

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I said it myself, we're living in dangerous times. We don't want extreme right to steal the debate but that's where it's going as long as the debate and truth seekers continues being subdued.

EU have everything to do with illegal immigrants, it's a political stance of the western left and liberal governments.

There's no unifying thing going on except among the elite, ordinary people's opinions are being nullified and ridiculed.

The EU have no interest to secure borders, instead it's an ongoing process to change the face of Europe.

Paul have all reasons to be worried and hostile against EU.

The Right are gaining force across Europe because the left, centralist and liberals refuse to admit that under the EU they have got poorer. Some of it is the EUs fault, some not. But the balance of power has moved from local governments to a centralist bureaucracy. That tries to be nice to everyone, "fair" and panders to the needs of corporations before people.

Local governments can be voted out by civilians of the country. A centralist bureaucracy cannot.

No trade deal ever has forced countries within it to give up so much power. Canada has a good deal with the EU, how many Canadian laws are made by by Brussels, can Canada negotiate trade deals with other countries, is Canada forced to accept illegal migrants Merkel mistakenly invited in?

There are 60 other countries not in the EU but with a trade deal. https://cer.eu/in-the-press/eu-has-3...n-after-brexit

The EUs refusal to give the UK a deal will hurt the EU.

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Once outside the EU the UK can tell China to buy more or sell less.

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Because the future is doing your own deals outside the EU.

The immediate effect will be a run on the GBP, but that will bring down the costs of UK goods around the world. After 10 years the results will be good.

These are #2 reasons for leaving. The #1 reason is to regain powers given away and destroy the EU with a simple trade deal replacing it.

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oh you dumb dumb mother fucker...it is YOU who are buying too much of their shit you dumb dumb mother fucker :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Please make up your mind... Is the EU the problem here or is it the Western left and liberal governments????

When Kings and God died people needed a new God because the masses simply need something to believe in. The concept of the Nation State was born. Nationalism and the Nation State as the new God to believe in; a way to rule the people with and to give them an identity and meaning in life. It is an infantile idea that people would need a unifying thing in order to being able to live amongst each other. All people having cocks or pussy isn't unifying enough??? See how stupid a unifying thing sounds? Should we all recite the Pledge of Our Unifying Cocks and Pussies?

Welll... there you have your unifying amor fati: all ordinary plebs are being nullified and ridiculed!!! Your nation state should institute National Dildo Day which would mandate all nationalists to sit on dildos all day while singing the national anthem.

As if in national politics people's opinions are not being nullified and ridiculed:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh What difference does it make whether you're fucked in the ass by May or Tusk; Trump or Merkel? Look after yourself and FUCK them ALL!

Europe as well as everything else in this world has always been an ongoing process of change. Europe as we know it today, with it's nation states and national identities is not going any deeper then a 200 years old concept. It's not that God created France, Brittain and Germany on the 6th day...

Europe before the Nation State

In a world where "Scaling Up" is the new religion and key to survival, nationalism = Der Untergang!

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Will the EU government be an improvement? So far it's failed.



It would be lovely if the whole of Europe could live together as one. Back here in the real world it won't happen.

So your reasons for a United State of Europe are pureley ideological and not based on reality.

As you live in Portugal you're on the receiving end of EU money. This gives you a biased view of the EU. Those who are forcedto give you the money see it differently.

I hear a lot of nationalists crying about losing sovereignty so i guess so far everything is still according plan:thumbsup

It only looks like that... but because the future is in the hands of the youth and your generation is about to die off following 10-15 years... change will speed up soon...

I will show you some reality...
The problem with your generation Paul is that you guys had a fucking great life in extraordinary wealth and peace. Of course that life is the life you all want and want to keep. Your generation looks back at a great ride! But... thinking about the future you shoudn't think about your great ride you should look at the world today and and look where it's heading. I mean economically and geo politically. Only an idiot wants to keep things like they are. In a world where you need to scale up the nationalists want to scale down. Like if peace and wealth comes naturally... Your generation is spoiled. It's stupid to give the plebs; peoples; the ordinary mediocre fucktards; a right to vote making decissions for a country based on infantile irrational feelings!!!

Don't worrie about where my houses live Paul... I once also had a house very near you. If I would look out my window I could see you sitting behind your computer posting on gfy!
But..you're wrong again about receiving etc...

Struggle4Bucks has given up on trying to tell us what's good about the EU.

you dumb dumb mother fucker...

I highly suggest the brexit movie, it is a great example of how easy it is to target uneducated people like paul markham

https://beergbrexitblog.files.wordpr...45_.jpg?w=1000

did you never realize that for paul there is nothing good on earth?

and this is because paul thinks that "good" is something he have to agree 100% with.
he does not care that other people have other ideas - and in all his life he did not learn that a societey can only work with compromises.

that's the great commonality of all trump supporters and if they knew and thought it through, they would realize that their "path" automatically leads them to end up exterminating each other.

because if we arrived at the point where they had "their way", the next step would be to get the former comrade-in-arms 100% on their own line or to eliminate them.

these people did not understand the greatest talent that separates humans from animals. they did not understand that individuality can only function through compromises.

France and Germany agree on joint proposal for euro zone budget. https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUKKCN1QB1JL

I thought there were other countries in the Euro and decisions should be made amongst them all. Or do France and Germany think everything is now down to them? With a box ticking exercise from the other countries.

So will this slow down the more industrialised countries?

https://www.politico.eu/article/emma...ropean-nerves/

So much for the democratic EU.

Growing your future market costs money...not something a high school drop out like you would understand whos life work is on sale for 500$ and not selling...

Hello there . . .

Back on May 1 2004 the day Czech republic joined EU, I was in Prague and walking into my office building. The doorman ( retired and much older door-lady in this case) welcomed me and asked. If I knew what did happen today...

I have answered " The Czechs joined the EU"

She commented : " No, the Germans finally won the War":1orglaugh

Lame reply:1orglaugh It appears you have given up to come up with something to say...
Owh wait... Paul Markham + "something to say" in once sentence is such a huge contradiction that it is simply wrong grammar.

Links zwei drei vier gutennacht Paul 0/

OOHHHOOO I'm an alien; I'm an illegal alien
I'm an Englishman in Brno...

The thread went exactly the same retarded way as any PM thread...