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Grapesoda 01-08-2019 07:44 AM

serious question
 
what is the point of war with china or russia?

2MuchMark 01-08-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22392994)
what is the point of war with china or russia?

nothing. The whole world would lose. Even if you were pooty and you won the war and destroyed the US, then what? Land grab? It's polluted and poison. Skies are black, everyone's dead, game over man, game over.

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22392999)
nothing. The whole world would lose. Even if you were pooty and you won the war and destroyed the US, then what? Land grab? It's polluted and poison. Skies are black, everyone's dead, game over man, game over.

so this is your goal with the constant trump russia thing..., start a war? it is you and your creepy friends pushing the agenda :2 cents:

crockett 01-08-2019 07:52 AM

War is fought to protect interests.. the interest ms may vary..

crockett 01-08-2019 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22393000)
so this is your goal with the constant trump russia thing..., start a war? it is you and your creepy friends pushing the agenda :2 cents:

That's pretty silly to blame him or someone else for actions by Putin or Trump.. How about putting the blame on them not some guy posting on a forum?

RedFred 01-08-2019 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22393000)
so this is your goal with the constant trump russia thing..., start a war? it is you and your creepy friends pushing the agenda :2 cents:

Where has anyone said we should go to war with Russia. But according to your logic we should just let them take over our country to avoid war? How pacifistic of you.

BaldBastard 01-08-2019 08:03 AM

There wont be any wars, America proved that. Every military intelligence in the USA and around the world can show beyond a doubt Russia invaded America and influenced your 2016 elections, that's a weapon possibly the most powerful weapon but sweet fuck all was done about it except specific policy changes that have handed more power and wealth to Russia.

It doesn't matter if they changed the outcome or not of your elections.. just that they tried, otherwise its like they threw 5 nukes at the USA, they all landed but failed to explode.. so we won't react.. Its ok. A political bomb has far more fall out than any nuke.

New's Corporation can be clearly shown using straight propaganda to over throw government's and politicians, here in Australia and the UK, they've been charged for it for fucks sake... yet The American president treats them like state news almost daily telling the population to watch.

So there will be no wars.. you already lost the war, and Trump is the living proof of that.

RIP America , All hail Xi

alexistexasass 01-08-2019 08:05 AM

*Power and Money*

CjTheFish 01-08-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22392994)
what is the point of war with china or russia?

There will be no war. If there is a direct violent conflict between USA, China, Russia, the world will descend into chaos. The economies and countries are simply too large. All three want to avoid war as much as possible, but often threaten it or make hints about it as a way of keeping each other in check.

PR_Glen 01-08-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22392994)
what is the point of war with china or russia?

here's a better question...

Why do you think anyone wants either? Propaganda?

stop being manipulated and use your own thoughts.

Sarn 01-08-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22392994)
what is the point of war with china or russia?

generals receive money from the budget, companies receive military orders, politicians receive political points from war rhetoric(winning), ordinary peoples lose money and get chance capture bullet somewhere in the desert or on the jungle


2MuchMark 01-08-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22393000)
so this is your goal with the constant trump russia thing..., start a war? it is you and your creepy friends pushing the agenda :2 cents:

I am GFY's biggest liberal Obama-liking pacifist hippie weirdo freak. I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag, and I hate guns.

You feeling ok? Do you smell burnt toast? Maybe you should have a lay-down.

wehateporn 01-08-2019 02:14 PM

Profit, reduce population and usher in NWO

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22393010)
There wont be any wars, America proved that. Every military intelligence in the USA and around the world can show beyond a doubt Russia invaded America and influenced your 2016 elections, that's a weapon possibly the most powerful weapon but sweet fuck all was done about it except specific policy changes that have handed more power and wealth to Russia.

It doesn't matter if they changed the outcome or not of your elections.. just that they tried, otherwise its like they threw 5 nukes at the USA, they all landed but failed to explode.. so we won't react.. Its ok. A political bomb has far more fall out than any nuke.

New's Corporation can be clearly shown using straight propaganda to over throw government's and politicians, here in Australia and the UK, they've been charged for it for fucks sake... yet The American president treats them like state news almost daily telling the population to watch.

So there will be no wars.. you already lost the war, and Trump is the living proof of that.

RIP America , All hail Xi

we have tried to influence russian politics for the last 60 years and yes america is a total piece of shit proved everyday by the thousands that try and sneak in to america to live here

politics down under is beyond approach, there are no racism or any social issues at all .. :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22393343)
I am GFY's biggest liberal Obama-liking pacifist hippie weirdo freak. I couldn't fight my way out of a paper bag, and I hate guns.

You feeling ok? Do you smell burnt toast? Maybe you should have a lay-down.

pushing agenda and distorted half truths, attacking a mans family and business.. be a bit more respect going your way if you would just get real and pull out a gun or knife and go after someone.. .. maybe you should just be more honest. passive aggressive is so 90's don't think? :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22393289)
generals receive money from the budget, companies receive military orders, politicians receive political points from war rhetoric(winning), ordinary peoples lose money and get chance capture bullet somewhere in the desert or on the jungle


I know that and it's the libbys that push war :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22393019)
here's a better question...

Why do you think anyone wants either? Propaganda?

stop being manipulated and use your own thoughts.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22393001)
War is fought to protect interests.. the interest ms may vary..

trade routes and domestic production of crops or industry... great show on the learning channel... empires like the egyptians and greeks were agricultural empires for instance

Bladewire 01-08-2019 03:00 PM

China has stolen a generation of intellectual property from America and used it to enrich themselves and economically enslave American businesses. China needs to pay a heavy price for their theft. China has been at economic with with America for decades, we just didn't know the extent of their deception & manipulation.

Rochard 01-08-2019 03:15 PM

I grew up during the cold war, Ronald Reagan, Star Wars, etc.... I was in the Marines and we were going to "Kill the commies".

When I worked for Dating Factory, their tech division was located in Ukraine. When they asked me if I was interested in going there to meet everyone and for training I declined. I'm kicking myself now. After working with them for five long years I go to know a lot of them, and learned a lot about their culture. Toss in visits to Prague and Buddapest.... There is no difference. Everyone wants the same things. They want their family to be safe, a roof over their head, and a car. They don't give a crap about the rest, the posturing, government leaders beating their fists on their chests.

We are all the same.

Sarn 01-08-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22393383)
I know that and it's the libbys that push war :2 cents:

it 100% guaranteed they do not win the election))

Bladewire 01-08-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22393404)
it 100% guaranteed they do not win the election))

You are 100% wrong, regarding a 100% guarantee, on any American election :thumbsup

Sarn 01-08-2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22393392)
China has stolen a generation of intellectual property from America and used it to enrich themselves and economically enslave American businesses. China needs to pay a heavy price for their theft. China has been at economic with with America for decades, we just didn't know the extent of their deception & manipulation.

It is globalization, specialization by countries - US make technologies, China make factories, Russia make the energy sector. And no one country cant be independent.

pimpmaster9000 01-08-2019 03:51 PM

Delusional invaders fail to understand that russia has the off swith to life on earth...the word war and extinction are not the same...so there will be no war...in war one side gets to live...

China can send 100 million refugees your way and not break a sweat...it can defeat you with no bullets...and then it can send another 100 million just to fuck with you some more...then another 100 million just to make it perfectly clear...

The word "war" is not applicable...

Bladewire 01-08-2019 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22393412)
It is globalization, specialization by countries - US make technologies, China make factories, Russia make the energy sector. And no one country cant be independent.

China OWNS Russia

Common knowledge

CaptainHowdy 01-08-2019 03:58 PM


Sarn 01-08-2019 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22393424)
China OWNS Russia
Common knowledge

trade rise

Russia-China trade to hit US$100bn in 2018
https://gbtimes.com/russia-china-tra...s100bn-in-2018

Russia plans to boost trade with China to $200bn by 2024
https://www.rt.com/business/439594-r...rade-turnover/

Russia's Trade With China Up 22%
https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/...up-22-to-59285

China quickly catching up to EU in trade with Russia – Kremlin
Trade turnover between Russia and EU countries, in the first six month of 2018, grew by 5.8 percent year-on-year up to €123.4 billion, according to Eurostat. Volume of imports from the bloc into Russia increased 1.4 percent up to 41.6 billion euro, while exports from Russia were up 3.5 percent to €81.2 billion.
Russia is the third largest exporter to the EU and the bloc's fifth biggest importer.
https://www.rt.com/business/437494-c...atching-up-to/

Jel 01-08-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22393402)
I was in the Marines

Damn, you were? You kept that a bit of a secret :upsidedow

Rochard 01-08-2019 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 22393454)
Damn, you were? You kept that a bit of a secret :upsidedow

Shhh. Don't tell anyone.

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22393392)
China has stolen a generation of intellectual property from America and used it to enrich themselves and economically enslave American businesses. China needs to pay a heavy price for their theft. China has been at economic with with America for decades, we just didn't know the extent of their deception & manipulation.

no payments will be made of that I'm very sure :2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-08-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22393402)
I grew up during the cold war, Ronald Reagan, Star Wars, etc.... I was in the Marines and we were going to "Kill the commies".

When I worked for Dating Factory, their tech division was located in Ukraine. When they asked me if I was interested in going there to meet everyone and for training I declined. I'm kicking myself now. After working with them for five long years I go to know a lot of them, and learned a lot about their culture. Toss in visits to Prague and Buddapest.... There is no difference. Everyone wants the same things. They want their family to be safe, a roof over their head, and a car. They don't give a crap about the rest, the posturing, government leaders beating their fists on their chests.

We are all the same.

when I was a kid we had atomic bomb drill at school. we would all hide under our deck when the siren went off. yes we all want our families to be safe and happy, well except for guys like mark prince who want others to be unsafe and in danger while being maligned. :2 cents:

Bladewire 01-08-2019 05:18 PM





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