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HairyChick 12-22-2018 08:15 PM

Prisons — Tougher or Kinder?
 
I saw Inside The World’s Toughest Prisons today and it got me thinking hard. All foreign locations and brutal. Then they went to Hanley Norway or similar spelling .

NO BARS OR HANDCUFFS

The guards treat everyone with respect and humanity. Walk in and they shake your hand. No cells; individual rooms with bed, desk, dresser, fridge, television, bathroom with shower and toilet is spotless. Guards mingle with prisoners and sit close without fear. They walk outside uncuffed when they want. $100,000 recording studio available, jobs for anyone and your own clothing. If you don’t work or go to school, you’re locked in. Students really try hard to learn and enjoy it. You get one prepared meal a day. The other two meals you cook, whatever you want. Knives are given freely. Spotless kitchen and they shop in the store and buy whatever food they want. Money is from your job.

True rehabilitation and they leave skilled The garages train mechanics with every piece of equipment there is. The floor and walls you can eat off of, they’re so clean. Building has white, unmarked walls and floors. They’re taught to keep clean and neat.

Rarely a fight or problem. They can’t leave but otherwise are free. They’re happy, busy, learning for a future.

If we had that, our recidivism rate (% going back to jail) would be less than the 80% it is now. Norway is 20% and the longest sentence you can get is 21 years.

Our prisons suck at rehab, job training, and teaching the need to be good. Treat these guys with respect and decency and they respond. Give them an opportunity for the future. They’re taught they are not worthless, useless or stupid.

It’s really shocking how foreign prisons are run. The drugs, weapons and other contraband are easily found. Murder is rampant, beatings are daily occurrences, no heat, no air, no good food, no anything.

Norway proves that decent treatment over abuse works. Trust works. Give people a chance and see what happens.

I’m curious if anyone else has watched it on Netflix. I’m on season three in foreign countries and some are so disgusting and decrepit that animals couldn’t survive. No beds, no privacy, twelve to a room, rampant drugs, vermin, disease and weapons that will shock you.

Tasty1 12-22-2018 10:56 PM

I visited some Dutch people in Thai prisons and helped publishing a book. I saw there is a new movie about the Thai prison, A Prayer before Dawn. That gives you an idea.

Matt 26z 12-23-2018 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns (Post 22385688)
The guards treat everyone with respect and humanity. Walk in and they shake your hand. No cells; individual rooms with bed, desk, dresser, fridge, television, bathroom with shower and toilet is spotless.

Let's see what happens at that same prison with it full of blacks and browns. Guarantee you the handshakes would need to be replaced with old school guards cracking black asses.

CurrentlySober 12-23-2018 02:28 AM

I miss being in prison for Xmas... :(

Manfap 12-23-2018 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns (Post 22385688)
the longest sentence you can get is 21 years.

They've gotta let out Anders Behring Breivik who killed 77 kids?

BaldBastard 12-23-2018 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22385730)
Let's see what happens at that same prison with it full of blacks and browns. Guarantee you the handshakes would need to be replaced with old school guards cracking black asses.

Prison in Rarotonga.. note the fence size


RedFred 12-23-2018 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22385730)
Let's see what happens at that same prison with it full of blacks and browns. Guarantee you the handshakes would need to be replaced with old school guards cracking black asses.


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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22385730)
If it werent for the blacks and brownies I would have got hired for that 7-11 job and my life would have turned out so much different.

It was 20 years ago, get over it already.

HairyChick 12-23-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 22385742)
They've gotta let out Anders Behring Breivik who killed 77 kids?

They talked about him. Didn’t he admit to 24 murders but they suspect more?

I’m sure someone here will watch it to confirm the length of sentences. It shocked me that the amount of time is so low. One guy got fourteen years for rape and he thinks it’s unfair since murderers are getting less than five years.

If you treat people like animals, they act that way. If you treat them with respect and humanity, they act that way.

HairyChick 12-23-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22385730)
Let's see what happens at that same prison with it full of blacks and browns. Guarantee you the handshakes would need to be replaced with old school guards cracking black asses.

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

People react to the way they’re treated. If you come from an environment where everyone puts you down, poverty is high, discrimination rampant, and you’re treated badly because you’re judged on your skin color ....

No one steals food from the kitchen fridge. They’re trusted not to break rules.

People are conditioned to act out. Trust them, give them a decent job and housing, teach them about right and wrong. Black, brown, yellow, red or purple, people can learn and change.

The media highlights black people being bad. They bypass the good black people There is good and bad in every race. Open your mind to realize that race doesn’t have to define you.


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