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Mr.Fiction 12-18-2018 10:18 AM

YNOT Age Verification Issue Has No Serious Discussion of Pricing?
 
The new issue of YNOT Magazine is about Age Verification:
https://www.ynot.com/ynot-magazine-2018-04/

There are several times when age verification pricing comes up, but there are just general comments about it. In the articles I read, they didn't pressure the people they are talking to into sharing any actual numbers. If you are running a business, numbers are what you need to understand the issue.

Anyone with direct knowledge of what the pricing looks like for the major Age Verification services?

ZENRA 12-18-2018 01:52 PM

I believe most will be free for the webmaster and even user if he has certain types of ID on hand.

Some plan on making money by also selling cards sold in shops through UK and of course there's all the data ($$$) being the basis of their platforms.

Mr.Fiction 12-19-2018 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ZENRA (Post 22383676)
I believe most will be free for the webmaster and even user if he has certain types of ID on hand.

Some plan on making money by also selling cards sold in shops through UK and of course there's all the data ($$$) being the basis of their platforms.

In the new YNOT issue, there are two different articles where they say it will be free for end users, but the websites that want to use the service will have to pay.

AVSecure 12-19-2018 04:16 AM

Age Verification is FREE with AVSecure
 
You do not need to pay for age verification as a merchant. No catches, no onerous contracts, no billing based on volumes, just a reflection of our considered business strategy which will help ensure that you and your customers are in the very safest of hands.

Multiple methods to verify consumers, all of which are free.

Mr.Fiction 12-19-2018 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AVSecure (Post 22383993)
You do not need to pay for age verification as a merchant. No catches, no onerous contracts, no billing based on volumes, just a reflection of our considered business strategy which will help ensure that you and your customers are in the very safest of hands.

Multiple methods to verify consumers, all of which are free.

Is your service included in the new YNOT issue? They said the new services are all seamless for the end user. Porn surfers can move between sites without re-verifying themselves using some kind of certificate once the user verifies their age once. Does your service work like that as well?

AVSecure 12-19-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 22384034)
Is your service included in the new YNOT issue? They said the new services are all seamless for the end user. Porn surfers can move between sites without re-verifying themselves using some kind of certificate once the user verifies their age once. Does your service work like that as well?

We have spoken to MG about cost free seamless surfing/ swapping tokens and they have yet to take up that offer. Make no mistake, we may have to adopt the coke-pepsi stance. We are more than willing to play nice so lets wait and see how the next couple of months evolve. A great question btw.

ianmoone332000 12-19-2018 10:57 AM

Im still waiting on a company who will have an affiliate program and you get paid a % everytime someone verifies with the cards you buy from the shop

ZENRA 12-19-2018 12:47 PM

There's like half a dozen AV companies now and I bet when the dust settles, it's going to be MG, AVSecure, and maybe one more. Pepsi, Coke, and RC.

The UK has many people, but I can't imagine the market requiring more than 2-3 companies.

Mr.Fiction 12-20-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ZENRA (Post 22384188)
There's like half a dozen AV companies now and I bet when the dust settles, it's going to be MG, AVSecure, and maybe one more. Pepsi, Coke, and RC.

The UK has many people, but I can't imagine the market requiring more than 2-3 companies.

There needs to be more than one so that pricing competition exists.

AVSecure 12-20-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 22384609)
There needs to be more than one so that pricing competition exists.

That would be a good point other than the fact you do not need to pay for age verification. AVSecure is a free service to the whole industry.

Mr.Fiction 12-20-2018 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AVSecure (Post 22384618)
That would be a good point other than the fact you do not need to pay for age verification. AVSecure is a free service to the whole industry.

Again, the quotes in the YNOT article linked in the original post talk about costs, so the fact that there are multiple options, some where the price is zero, sounds good.

The Porn Nerd 12-20-2018 09:52 AM

Believe me, there will be costs attributed to Age Verification and the webmasters will be the ones to carry the cost. Also, if there is a profit to be made don't you think companies will grab this opportunity?

Porn WILL be more expensive (for British citizens) in the UK.

Mr.Fiction 12-20-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22384629)
Believe me, there will be costs attributed to Age Verification and the webmasters will be the ones to carry the cost. Also, if there is a profit to be made don't you think companies will grab this opportunity?

Porn WILL be more expensive (for British citizens) in the UK.

What about giant free sites like tubes, do you think they will pay to allow visitors on their sites if it costs them money? MindGeek owns some of them, but not all of them.

The Porn Nerd 12-20-2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 22384680)
What about giant free sites like tubes, do you think they will pay to allow visitors on their sites if it costs them money? MindGeek owns some of them, but not all of them.

No what I am saying is MG will find a way to profit from Age Verification. :)

Mr.Fiction 12-21-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22384736)
No what I am saying is MG will find a way to profit from Age Verification. :)

MG seems to say they want to charge webmasters. But the article doesn't say how much. No one has that pricing info yet?


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