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OneHungLo 10-11-2018 03:05 PM

Shock report: US paying more for illegal immigrant births than Trump’s wall
 
Americans are paying more to cover the costs of illegal immigrants having children in the United States than Congress plans to give President Trump in border wall funding this year, according to an explosive new analysis of Census Bureau data.

The new report reveals that women in the United States illegally had 297,000 children in 2014 at a cost of $2.4 billion.

That is $800 million more than the Senate has approved for Trump’s border wall this year and enough to pay for the wall over 10 years.

https://i.imgur.com/QdEhlcA.jpg

The Center for Immigration Studies report also put a price on the likely Medicaid bill for childbirth and early care to illegal and legal immigrants combined, at $5.3 billion. That is one-fifth the total cost of building the border wall.

A national debate over wall funding is set for after the election and could result in a partial government shutdown if Trump doesn’t get more than the Senate’s $1.6 billion.

https://i.imgur.com/0HlDW2u.jpg

Technically, illegal immigrants are not eligible for welfare services. But the report explained, "Medicaid will pay for a delivery in almost all cases if the mother is uninsured or has a low income, though some mothers without insurance may not even realize the program has paid health care providers. Illegal immigrants and most new legal immigrants are ineligible for Medicaid, but the program will still cover the cost of delivery and post-partum care for these mothers for at least a few months."

The Center, which conducts regular analysis of Census family data to determine the impact of legal and illegal immigration, said that overall in 2014 one in five births -- 791,000 -- in the United States was to an immigrant.

“Our best estimate is that legal immigrants accounted for 12.4 percent -- 494,000 -- of all births, and illegal immigrants accounted for 7.5 percent, -- 297,000,” said the report done by CIS Research Director Steven A. Camarota, Demographer Karen Zeigler and analyst Jason Richwine.

They said that figures for subsequent years show little variation from 2014.

The near 300,000 born to illegals is a population the size of Cincinnati.

Camarota told Secrets, “Paying for so many births to immigrant mothers may make sense, but the large share who can’t provide for themselves without the help of American taxpayers raises the question of whether our current immigration system makes sense.”

https://i.imgur.com/vFvZfzB.jpg

He also questioned the ability of the new kids, citizens by birthright, to fold into American society. “The enormous number of births to legal and illegal immigrants in the United States may hinder assimilation as children from immigrant families in many parts of the country will largely interact only with each other,” he added.

The numbers are stunning. Consider:

The estimated 28,000 births to illegal immigrants in just the Los Angeles metro area is larger than the total number of births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.
The states with the largest numbers of births to illegal immigrants are California with 65,000, Texas with 51,000, Florida with 16,000, Illinois with 14,000, Georgia with 13,000, New York with 12,000, and New Jersey and North Carolina with 11,000 each.
Illegal immigrants account for more than one in seven births in the Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Jose, Dallas, and Houston metro areas. Typically between two-thirds and three-fourths of these births are likely paid for by taxpayers.
The state with the highest share of births to illegal immigrants is Nevada, at nearly one in six. Births to illegal immigrants account for one in seven births in California and Texas.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...an-trumps-wall

Bladewire 10-11-2018 03:08 PM

California is the world's 5th largest economy

crockett 10-11-2018 03:09 PM

Shock report.. Tax payers paying more for Trumps weekly vacations than it would cost to house homeless veterans for his entire 4 year term..

Where is the outrage?

OneHungLo 10-11-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22348168)
Shock report.. Tax payers paying more for Trumps weekly vacations than it would cost to house homeless veterans for his entire 4 year term..

Where is the outrage?

Shock report .. you just pulled that out of your commie ass.

directfiesta 10-11-2018 03:32 PM

yep, ....
once the wall up, no more illegals .... or Trump reimburse the cost ?

crockett 10-11-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22348176)
Shock report .. you just pulled that out of your commie ass.

Why do you hate America?

Just Trumps military parade could feed every homeless vet 3 times a day for 15 days..

Why do you hate America so much?

RedFred 10-11-2018 03:44 PM

Thanks Trump!


Russians Flock to Trump Properties to Give Birth to U.S. Citizens

OneHungLo 10-11-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22348178)
yep, ....
once the wall up, no more illegals .... or Trump reimburse the cost ?

All it has to do is keep out 10% and it pays for itself :2 cents:

dyna mo 10-11-2018 04:07 PM

Europe has plenty of border barriers and they all seem to think they work over there. We don't need a 60 billion dollars wall though. Euros use razor wire fence

RedFred 10-11-2018 04:08 PM

Wonder if Onehunglo/Matt26naZi's neighbors feel the same?


https://scontent.fapa1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...f6&oe=5C5DDB96

pimpmaster9000 10-11-2018 06:06 PM

please please build the wall so that I can laugh at the videos on youtube of 100 ways people get over it with like a 2$ rope and a 1$ grappling hook :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it will stop the fatties tho :thumbsup

Matt 26z 10-11-2018 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22348197)

That graphic was obviously created by a beaner.

Beaners bring crime and blight everywhere they take over.

How much crime do you think that neo Nazi is bringing to his community? Probably NONE!

dyna mo 10-11-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22348246)
please please build the wall so that I can laugh at the videos on youtube of 100 ways people get over it with like a 2$ rope and a 1$ grappling hook :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it will stop the fatties tho :thumbsup

um ding dong, YOU have a fucking border barrier. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_border_barrier

OneHungLo 10-11-2018 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22348246)
please please build the wall so that I can laugh at the videos on youtube of 100 ways people get over it with like a 2$ rope and a 1$ grappling hook :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it will stop the fatties tho :thumbsup

It will stop the fatties, it will stop the elderly, it may stop families with small children. Again, if it stops 10% it pays for itself. Plus just the message it sends is one that we're not going to tolerate anymore brown invaders coming up from Mexico and South America. Like Trumpy says, "they're not sending their best."

dyna mo 10-11-2018 06:25 PM

phone home serbie

https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1..._960/image.jpg

Bladewire 10-11-2018 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22348165)
Americans are paying more to cover the costs of illegal immigrants having children in the United States than Congress plans to give President Trump in border wall funding this year, according to an explosive new analysis of Census Bureau data.

The new report reveals that women in the United States illegally had 297,000 children in 2014 at a cost of $2.4 billion.

That is $800 million more than the Senate has approved for Trump’s border wall this year and enough to pay for the wall over 10 years.

https://i.imgur.com/QdEhlcA.jpg

The Center for Immigration Studies report also put a price on the likely Medicaid bill for childbirth and early care to illegal and legal immigrants combined, at $5.3 billion. That is one-fifth the total cost of building the border wall.

A national debate over wall funding is set for after the election and could result in a partial government shutdown if Trump doesn’t get more than the Senate’s $1.6 billion.

https://i.imgur.com/0HlDW2u.jpg

Technically, illegal immigrants are not eligible for welfare services. But the report explained, "Medicaid will pay for a delivery in almost all cases if the mother is uninsured or has a low income, though some mothers without insurance may not even realize the program has paid health care providers. Illegal immigrants and most new legal immigrants are ineligible for Medicaid, but the program will still cover the cost of delivery and post-partum care for these mothers for at least a few months."

The Center, which conducts regular analysis of Census family data to determine the impact of legal and illegal immigration, said that overall in 2014 one in five births -- 791,000 -- in the United States was to an immigrant.

“Our best estimate is that legal immigrants accounted for 12.4 percent -- 494,000 -- of all births, and illegal immigrants accounted for 7.5 percent, -- 297,000,” said the report done by CIS Research Director Steven A. Camarota, Demographer Karen Zeigler and analyst Jason Richwine.

They said that figures for subsequent years show little variation from 2014.

The near 300,000 born to illegals is a population the size of Cincinnati.

Camarota told Secrets, “Paying for so many births to immigrant mothers may make sense, but the large share who can’t provide for themselves without the help of American taxpayers raises the question of whether our current immigration system makes sense.”

https://i.imgur.com/vFvZfzB.jpg

He also questioned the ability of the new kids, citizens by birthright, to fold into American society. “The enormous number of births to legal and illegal immigrants in the United States may hinder assimilation as children from immigrant families in many parts of the country will largely interact only with each other,” he added.

The numbers are stunning. Consider:

The estimated 28,000 births to illegal immigrants in just the Los Angeles metro area is larger than the total number of births in 14 states and the District of Columbia.
The states with the largest numbers of births to illegal immigrants are California with 65,000, Texas with 51,000, Florida with 16,000, Illinois with 14,000, Georgia with 13,000, New York with 12,000, and New Jersey and North Carolina with 11,000 each.
Illegal immigrants account for more than one in seven births in the Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Jose, Dallas, and Houston metro areas. Typically between two-thirds and three-fourths of these births are likely paid for by taxpayers.
The state with the highest share of births to illegal immigrants is Nevada, at nearly one in six. Births to illegal immigrants account for one in seven births in California and Texas.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...an-trumps-wall

What's wrong with you?

We pay that deficit here in California and we pay billions in surplus to the feds every year too. One of the few states with a surplus. The GOP doesn't like states that are successful, they want to bleed everything dry they can and they can't with California because of our consumer protection laws.

OneHungLo 10-11-2018 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22348278)
What's wrong with you?

We pay that deficit here in California and we pay billions in surplus to the feds every year too. One of the few states with a surplus. The GOP doesn't like states that are successful, they want to bleed everything dry they can and they can't with California because of our consumer protection laws.

Who gives a shit. Let them go back to Mexico and have their kids there.

Matt 26z 10-11-2018 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22348278)
What's wrong with you?

We pay that deficit here in California and we pay billions in surplus to the feds every year too. One of the few states with a surplus. The GOP doesn't like states that are successful, they want to bleed everything dry they can and they can't with California because of our consumer protection laws.

Just imagine how much more successful California would be if mexicans got sent back.

King Mark 10-12-2018 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22348178)
yep, ....
once the wall up, no more illegals .... or Trump reimburse the cost ?

Valid question...

King Mark 10-12-2018 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22348347)
Just imagine how much more successful California would be if mexicans got sent back.

Most Mexicans there are citizens bro. The worst of them are born and bred there. Some of them before your ancestors immigrated there.

King Mark 10-12-2018 12:25 AM

The only thing the wall would do is shift the drug market back to the east coast like the good ol days. Good luck stopping the Ricans.

astronaut x 10-12-2018 02:34 AM

fuck the wall. Its a facade. Its a very expensive facade that will do nothing.

Problem is not the border, it's the traitors in America hiring illegals. Stop giving them jobs.

pimpmaster9000 10-12-2018 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22348259)
It will stop the fatties, it will stop the elderly, it may stop families with small children. Again, if it stops 10% it pays for itself. Plus just the message it sends is one that we're not going to tolerate anymore brown invaders coming up from Mexico and South America. Like Trumpy says, "they're not sending their best."

it is always amusing when an american calls somebody an invader :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I support the wall for comedy reasons mostly :thumbsup

BaldBastard 10-12-2018 05:23 AM

Mexico-US drug tunnel had solar panels, ventilation, rail system

https://www.foxnews.com/us/advanced-...on-rail-system

Paul Markham 10-14-2018 08:51 AM

Now add the cost of teaching, healthcare, policing, low wages, lower taxes, higher unemployment to the maternity costs.

A recent survey in the UK confined that mass unregulated migration has a negative effect on the economy. For instance educating a child costs the UK ►£10,000 per year, add healthcare, low wages, low tax revenue, unemployment and the final costs are crippling. But the liberals try to assume regulating who comes in is a bad thing.

Bladewire 10-14-2018 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22349382)
But the liberals try to assume regulating who comes in is a bad thing.

That's a lie.

Here in California we've been trying to get the GOP lead congress to fund more border security for years, they refuse. Boots on the ground security, we learned decades ago that walls do nothing.

I posted on here before all of the initiatives that were denied by the GOP like Congress over the years but you ignore that and say all Democrats love illegals leeching off our system which is complete bullshit and ignorant on your part.

Paul Markham 10-14-2018 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22348347)
Just imagine how much more successful California would be if mexicans got sent back.

Fast food outlets would be the first to suffer. They will have to put up wages.

The reason California is so successful is due to people like my brother who can program on the level of top people in Silicon Valley, not those serving in Taco Bell.

Paul Markham 10-14-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22349386)
That's a lie.

Here in California we've been trying to get the GOP lead congress to fund more border security for years, they refuse. Boots on the ground security, we learned decades ago that walls do nothing.

I posted on here before all of the initiatives that were denied by the GOP like Congress but you ignore that and say all Democrats love illegals leeching off our system which is complete bullshit and ignorant on your part.

A wall aided with modern technology is far better and cheaper in the long run than "boots on the ground".

How many people, horses and vehicles would be needed and cost to put those "boots on the ground"?

The USSR and Israel showed have us how much more effective a wall is. I'm old enough to remember and visited the border of the USSR.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/FJN79K/bor...der-FJN79K.jpg

And Berlin.

https://bycommonconsent.files.wordpr...erlin-wall.jpg

The people love high unregulated migration are politicians and businessmen.


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