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Bladewire 10-08-2018 12:33 PM

Mueller seizes $42 million mansion of Russian oligarch in Manhattan
 

Mueller's investigation turns an additional $42 million profit! Manafort was on Oleg Deripaska's payrollfor over a decade and the current occupant of the mansion is Ivanka's Trump's Russian best friend & travelling buddy Dasha Zhukova.

“One of Zhukova’s good friends is Ivanka Trump. The two are so close that Zhukova and Abramovich often traveled and socialized with Trump and her husband, presidential son-in-law/adviser Jared Kushner, all over the world — from jet-setting hot spots in Russia and Croatia to Aspen and New York,"

Feds seize $42 million mansion of Russian oligarch linked to Paul Manafort

Federal officials “froze” a sprawling Upper East Side Manhattan mansion owned by Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, the New York Post reported Monday.

For years, former Trump campaign manager and convicted felon Paul Manafort was on Deripaska’s payroll.

The seizure is the result of the Russian oligarch being placed on the U.S. sanctions list after allegations he is “involved in murder, money-laundering, bribery and racketeering.”

Manafort was convicted in federal court in Virginia on eight counts and pleaded guilty to two additional counts in Washington, DC federal court.

The five story mansion, a half block east of Central Park, was built in 1899. Deripaska purchased it for $42,500,000 in 2008.

The mansion is currently occupied by Dasha Zhukova, the ex-wife of Russian oligarch Roman Abrmovich, who is business partners with Deripaska.

“One of Zhukova’s good friends is Ivanka Trump. The two are so close that Zhukova and Abramovich often traveled and socialized with Trump and her husband, presidential son-in-law/adviser Jared Kushner, all over the world — from jet-setting hot spots in Russia and Croatia to Aspen and New York,” the NY Post explained.

“Zhukova is dating Greek shipping heir Stavros Niarchos, while Abramovich reportedly is dating Deripaska’s estranged wife, Polina Deripaska,” the NY Post added.

FBI agents have reportedly sought Deripaska’s cooperation as part of the special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign.

Alt-right conspiracy response spinning this as not bad in 3.. 2.. 1..

Rochard 10-08-2018 12:46 PM

This is what I call #winning

onwebcam 10-08-2018 01:08 PM

Deripaska was a FBI informant who personally worked for Mueller himself. As in he wasn't working on Trump's behalf.. He was working on the FBI's behalf.

Mueller may have a conflict — and it leads directly to a Russian oligarch
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ssian-oligarch

Mueller is doing cover up..

Bladewire 10-08-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346465)
Deripaska was a FBI informant who personally worked for Mueller himself. As in he wasn't working on Trump's behalf.. He was working on the FBI's behalf.

Mueller may have a conflict — and it leads directly to a Russian oligarch
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ssian-oligarch

Mueller is doing cover up..

There's the conspiracy response!

No integrity with Matt26z aka Onwebcam just lies and distractions

"Anything you think is good is actually secretly bad" dumbass get a new script

Matt 26z 10-08-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346465)
Mueller is doing cover up..

They can't get away with it much longer.

Republicans are allowing it for now because of the midterms.

crockett 10-08-2018 01:33 PM

I wonder how much taxpayers will recoup from the Trump tower and all those golf courses.

onwebcam 10-08-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22346472)
There's the conspiracy response!

No integrity with Matt26z aka Onwebcam just lies and distractions

"Anything you think is good is actually secretly bad" dumbass get a new script

He worked as an FBI informant.. He admitted it himself

Russian oligarch, Justice Department and a clear case of collusion
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/40...e-of-collusion


The DOJ and FBI is trying to say he was "under recruitment" but you don't ask a man to put up millions of his own money to free an agent unless you have a pretty damn good relationship

Bladewire 10-08-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22346480)
I wonder how much taxpayers will recoup from the Trump tower and all those golf courses.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

onwebcam 10-08-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22346480)
I wonder how much taxpayers will recoup from the Trump tower and all those golf courses.

$0 :2 cents:

SecondFloor 10-08-2018 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346465)
Deripaska was a FBI informant who personally worked for Mueller himself. As in he wasn't working on Trump's behalf.. He was working on the FBI's behalf.

Mueller may have a conflict — and it leads directly to a Russian oligarch
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ssian-oligarch

Mueller is doing cover up..

So if I understand correctly, you're saying that the Mueller investigation is a sham designed to cover up Meuller's previous interaction with Deripaska? That seems a little late, since information about their operation was known to the State Department while the FBI was working with Deripaska.

It also seems unlikely that Mueller would get six people pleading guilty to crimes like "conspiracy against the united states" if this were a sham investigation. On top of that, there are two dozen indictments. An indictment is a lot more than an accusation. It means that Meuller's team is prepared to prove in a court of law that these people committed crimes.

onwebcam 10-08-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346499)
So if I understand correctly, you're saying that the Mueller investigation is a sham designed to cover up Meuller's previous interaction with Deripaska? That seems a little late, since information about their operation was known to the State Department while the FBI was working with Deripaska.

It also seems unlikely that Mueller would get six people pleading guilty to crimes like "conspiracy against the united states" if this were a sham investigation. On top of that, there are two dozen indictments. An indictment is a lot more than an accusation. It means that Meuller's team is prepared to prove in a court of law that these people committed crimes.

Covering up them (FBI/DOJ//CIA/DNC/etc) trying to rig the election.


FBI’s smoking gun: Redactions protected political embarrassment, not ‘national security’
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...arrassment-not

Anyone paying any attention already knew that.

As far as the indictments go.... Mueller is protecting the deep state.. Which Trump is not....

Rosenstein pulled a fast one on Trump in suggesting he fire Comey so they could put Mueller in place to cover everything up.. Rosenstein is the middleman between Mueller and IG Horowitz investigations.. He alone determines what we find out.. He is th eone behind those redactions...

SecondFloor 10-08-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346503)
Covering up them (FBI/DOJ) trying to rig the election.


FBI’s smoking gun: Redactions protected political embarrassment, not ‘national security’
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...arrassment-not

The smoking gun is a redacted paragraph that says the FBI met with the DNC's head lawyers? Based on this, and other dubious claims - like the outright lie that the investigation into the Trump campaign was spurred by the Steele dossier (source - it was the Australian ambassador) - the author concludes that there's sufficient evidence to say there was a criminal conspiracy instigated by the DOJ against Trump:

"There is now a concrete storyline backed by irrefutable evidence: The FBI allowed itself to take political opposition research created by one party to defeat another in an election, treated it like actionable intelligence, presented it to the court as substantiated, and then used it to justify spying on an adviser for the campaign of that party's duly chosen nominee for president in the final days of a presidential election."

That is quite a leap - from redacted mention of a meeting, to a conspiracy against the Trump campaign. Wouldn't it make sense that the FBI would be in contact with DNC representatives considering they'd been hacked? There are a lot of reasons why the FBI and the DNC's lawyers may have had contact, and why it might have been redacted. That doesn't prove wrongdoing, and it certainly doesn't prove the assertion that there was a criminal conspiracy against Trump.

Finally it's important to note that both of your sources are not investigative - they're opinion pieces by the same author, John Solomon, who has a long history of dubious reporting. Here's a piece describing his reputation among journalists.

onwebcam 10-08-2018 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346515)
The smoking gun is a redacted paragraph that says the FBI met with the DNC's head lawyers? Based on this, and other dubious claims - like the outright lie that the investigation into the Trump campaign was spurred by the Steele dossier (source - it was the Australian ambassador) - the author concludes that there's sufficient evidence to say there was a criminal conspiracy instigated by the DOJ against Trump:

"There is now a concrete storyline backed by irrefutable evidence: The FBI allowed itself to take political opposition research created by one party to defeat another in an election, treated it like actionable intelligence, presented it to the court as substantiated, and then used it to justify spying on an adviser for the campaign of that party's duly chosen nominee for president in the final days of a presidential election."

That is quite a leap - from redacted mention of a meeting, to a conspiracy against the Trump campaign. Wouldn't it make sense that the FBI would be in contact with DNC representatives considering they'd been hacked? There are a lot of reasons why the FBI and the DNC's lawyers may have had contact, and why it might have been redacted. That doesn't prove wrongdoing, and it certainly doesn't prove the assertion that there was a criminal conspiracy against Trump.

Finally it's important to note that both of your sources are not investigative - they're opinion pieces by the same author, John Solomon, who has a long history of dubious reporting. Here's a piece describing his reputation among journalists.

The DNC wasn't hacked by Russia.. False flag to bring about everything else.. Plus to cover up who really leaked the emails. Every single bit of this shit has been testified about before Congress.. It's not "conspiracy theory" it's a real fucking conspiracy.. Quit watching the same fucking news channels that lied to you all along and do some research..

dyna mo 10-08-2018 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346503)
Covering up them (FBI/DOJ//CIA/DNC/etc) trying to rig the election.



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

everything can explain everything, just wait for the last piece of puzzle consisting of infinite pieces. but that last piece will tie it all together.

your black hole conspiracy theory.

peter strzok!

onwebcam 10-08-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346526)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

everything can explain everything, just wait for the last piece of puzzle consisting of infinite pieces. but that last piece will tie it all together.

your black hole conspiracy theory.

peter strzok!

There's no blabk hole. It's been the same thing all along.. They framed Trump to try and rig the election.. They lost and doubled down.. It's that simple.. Denying it after the monumental information before you is, well, INSANE.

dyna mo 10-08-2018 03:02 PM

Peter Strzok!

Bladewire 10-08-2018 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346526)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

everything can explain everything, just wait for the last piece of puzzle consisting of infinite pieces. but that last piece will tie it all together.

your black hole conspiracy theory.

peter strzok!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

SecondFloor 10-08-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346524)
The DNC wasn't hacked by Russia.. False flag to bring about everything else.. Plus to cover up who really leaked the emails.

Every time you allege one of these conspiracies, it necessitates other conspiracies to explain it. You claim that the DOJ hacked the DNC, then covered it up. Also that they were actively working against Trump's campaign, and that afterwards they began a sham investigation which - even though its fake - produced half a dozen guilty pleas and two dozen indictments.

And in order to totally validate Trump's world view, there needs to be more conspiracies - Global Warming is a hoax, despite being accepted as fact by the scientific community. The mainstream press is working against the President. Obama was a Kenyan. Think of how many people would need to work together to make even one of those conspiracies a reality.

Im wondering at what point this stops. At what point do you say "hey, this is all getting a little bit difficult to believe." All of these are extraordinary accusations that don't have a fraction of the evidence needed to support them.

onwebcam 10-08-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346533)
Every time you allege one of these conspiracies, it necessitates other conspiracies to explain it. You claim that the DOJ hacked the DNC, then covered it up. Also that they were actively working against Trump's campaign, and that afterwards they began a sham investigation which - even though its fake - produced half a dozen guilty pleas and two dozen indictments.

And in order to totally Validate Trump's world view, there needs to be more conspiracies - Global Warming is a hoax, despite being accepted as fact by the scientific community. The mainstream press is working against the President. Obama was a Kenyan. Think of how many people would need to work together to make even one of those conspiracies a reality.

Im wondering at what point this stops. At what point do you say "hey, this is all getting a little bit difficult to believe." All of these are extraordinary accusations that don't have a fraction of the evidence needed to support them.

I didn't claim the DOJ hacked the DNC.. An insider leaked the emails. They made up the hack story to use it in the "Russia collusion" frame up.

Assange offered to tell who it was that leaked the email for political asylum.. He actually had a deal already but Comey killed it... Because they don't want it known.. Because it kills their narrative.

Bladewire 10-08-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346533)
Im wondering at what point this stops. At what point do you say "hey, this is all getting a little bit difficult to believe." All of these are extraordinary accusations that don't have a fraction of the evidence needed to support them.

It's his job to pretend to be American and spread conspiracies & disinformation. He's an anonymous alt-right nic posting 100% alt-right hate politics on a porn industry board. St. Petersburg troll farm trolls make $778 USD a month. His life really sucks

kane 10-08-2018 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346533)
Every time you allege one of these conspiracies, it necessitates other conspiracies to explain it. You claim that the DOJ hacked the DNC, then covered it up. Also that they were actively working against Trump's campaign, and that afterwards they began a sham investigation which - even though its fake - produced half a dozen guilty pleas and two dozen indictments.

And in order to totally validate Trump's world view, there needs to be more conspiracies - Global Warming is a hoax, despite being accepted as fact by the scientific community. The mainstream press is working against the President. Obama was a Kenyan. Think of how many people would need to work together to make even one of those conspiracies a reality.

Im wondering at what point this stops. At what point do you say "hey, this is all getting a little bit difficult to believe." All of these are extraordinary accusations that don't have a fraction of the evidence needed to support them.

Talking to Onwebcam is like punching yourself in the balls. You only ever actually get anything out of it when you stop doing it.

dyna mo 10-08-2018 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346533)
Every time you allege one of these conspiracies, it necessitates other conspiracies to explain it. You claim that the DOJ hacked the DNC, then covered it up. Also that they were actively working against Trump's campaign, and that afterwards they began a sham investigation which - even though its fake - produced half a dozen guilty pleas and two dozen indictments.

And in order to totally validate Trump's world view, there needs to be more conspiracies - Global Warming is a hoax, despite being accepted as fact by the scientific community. The mainstream press is working against the President. Obama was a Kenyan. Think of how many people would need to work together to make even one of those conspiracies a reality.

Im wondering at what point this stops. At what point do you say "hey, this is all getting a little bit difficult to believe." All of these are extraordinary accusations that don't have a fraction of the evidence needed to support them.

It doesn't stop! You'll see. Everything is linked. We all have been waiting for his theory to all to come together since the Mueller investigation launched.

onwebcam 10-08-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22346539)
It's his job to pretend to be American and spread conspiracies & disinformation. He's an anonymous alt-right nic posting 100% alt-right hate politics on a porn industry board. St. Petersburg troll farm trolls make $778 USD a month.

Actually $777 just because

SecondFloor 10-08-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22346540)
Talking to Onwebcam is like punching yourself in the balls. You only ever actually get anything out of it when you stop doing it.

Yeah, I think I gotta stop. I'm getting a headache. :(

onwebcam 10-08-2018 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346545)
Yeah, I think I gotta stop. I'm getting a headache. :(

Truth hurts

Bladewire 10-08-2018 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346548)
Truth hurts

That's why all you do is lie! Coward

SecondFloor 10-08-2018 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346548)
Truth hurts

You really can't argue with someone who actively believes that every authority is complicit in an conspiracy, because it invalidates any source you bring to the table.

If you truly believe that the entire federal law enforcement apparatus AND the media is in on a secret mission to defame the President, then I can't quote law enforcement or media sources to make my point.

By the way, if this were remotely true, it would be the most massive criminal conspiracy in the history of the world. The government can't even run the fucking post office, and you think they've concocted the most brilliant cover-up ever. I just don't even know, man.

dyna mo 10-08-2018 03:23 PM

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directfiesta 10-08-2018 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22346526)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

everything can explain everything, just wait for the last piece of puzzle consisting of infinite pieces. but that last piece will tie it all together.

your black hole conspiracy theory.

peter strzok!

It is pretty clear to me ...... !

https://cdn.jwplayer.com/thumbs/sXkiFZ8z-1280.jpg

:1orglaugh

onwebcam 10-08-2018 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346552)
You really can't argue with someone who actively believes that every authority is complicit in an conspiracy, because it invalidates any source you bring to the table.

If you truly believe that the entire federal law enforcement apparatus AND the media is in on a secret mission to defame the President, then I can't quote law enforcement or media sources to make my point.

By the way, if this were remotely true, it would be the most massive criminal conspiracy in the history of the world. The government can't even run the fucking post office, and you think they've concocted the most brilliant cover-up ever. I just don't even know, man.

Break out your popcorn.. You're going to need it. Trump just spent the whole day with Rosenstein...

crockett 10-08-2018 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondFloor (Post 22346499)
So if I understand correctly, you're saying that the Mueller investigation is a sham designed to cover up Meuller's previous interaction with Deripaska? That seems a little late, since information about their operation was known to the State Department while the FBI was working with Deripaska.

It also seems unlikely that Mueller would get six people pleading guilty to crimes like "conspiracy against the united states" if this were a sham investigation. On top of that, there are two dozen indictments. An indictment is a lot more than an accusation. It means that Meuller's team is prepared to prove in a court of law that these people committed crimes.

He has a new prediction or excuse each week as he has to move the goal posts a bit farther out to lala land after his last reason for Muller's investigation to have been a fraud.

He used to claim Trump and Muller were secretly working together to lock Hillary up..

The guy us either a Russian bot or fucking bat shit insane..

tfto 10-08-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22346539)
It's his job to pretend to be American and spread conspiracies & disinformation. He's an anonymous alt-right nic posting 100% alt-right hate politics on a porn industry board. St. Petersburg troll farm trolls make $778 USD a month. His life really sucks

How much does Media Matters pay you?

directfiesta 10-08-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346559)
Break out your popcorn.. You're going to need it. Trump just spent the whole day with Rosenstein...

Funny how you guys were all up in arms when Loretta Lynch met with Clinton, on the tarmac ..... :warning:warning

onwebcam 10-08-2018 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22346660)
Funny how you guys were all up in arms when Loretta Lynch met with Clinton, on the tarmac ..... :warning:warning

As if this is the first time they've had a meeting... They met the day before Mueller was appointed in fact.. Along with Mueller.

Difference between now and then, then Rosenstein thought he was getting rid of a President.. This time he's concerned about his future for trying to do just that.

onwebcam 10-09-2018 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22346675)
This time he's concerned about his future for trying to do just that.


Former Top FBI Lawyer Testified that Rosenstein “Seriously” Considered Secretly Recording Trump
https://saraacarter.com/former-top-f...cording-trump/


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