Donald Trump Impeachment or Resigning Odds Now Almost 45 Percent
 

I am surprised it's only 45 percent.

Donald Trump Impeachment or Resigning Odds Now Almost 45 Percent After Cohen, Manafort News

I am surprised it is only 45% too. I would go with 75%.

I think he'll sabotage his 2020 run for POTUS, unless his ego is so out of control that he's dumb enough to stay in office.

But on the other hand, if he is not POTUS this next term he will be indicted after leaving office.

Looks like either way he's fucked,

I'm not shocked. His approval rating hasn't budged during all of this. His base still loves him. Personally, I see a long road to impeachment. I have said a number of times I don't think he will end up impeached or, even if he is, I don't think he will be found guilty and could survive it, like Clinton did. However, it won't shock me if he steps down, especially towards the end of his term, and I won't even be shocked if he ends up being challenged in the primaries and loses.

I can tell you what watching him over the last 20 years for he will NOT step down:2 cents:

Trump has a long history of backing down and losing. He has a long history of multiple bankruptcies. He has a longer history of failed business ventures and list lawsuits.

Easy money for the anti-trumpsters, go ahead and make your bets...:2 cents:

That is very possible, however, I think if the polls show him down by 20 points and his approval rating has fallen way down I could see him wanting to save face so he could say something like, "I'm stepping down because I no longer want to put my family through it." He could allow himself to go out on his terms. This also allows him to blame everyone else for his troubles. If he gets his ass kicked in an election, then it isn't just the evil liberals, it's the American People who are turning their backs on him and that would make him look even worse.

Still, one thing we can know for certain about Trump is that there is no real way of knowing what he might do.

i am sure he also don´t know that.
I think this depends on lot on how many times he have to go to toilette and see his small dick and wishes he could be one of the big boys.

but actually he should not step back. a much better lesson for his supporters would be to see what disaster he have caused for the american people.

if he leaves now, the consequences of his nonsense will be attributed to the next president who will have to bear the brunt. of course, his supporters will never come up with the idea that politics reacts time-delayed and feel right.
it would be much better if they really suffer their ass off while their monkey is still sitting in the oval office. THEN at least some of these nuts might understand.

Then that means EVERYBODY suffers.

Would Mike Pence really be that much of a threat? I mean, is Trump really standing in the way of a Mike Pence disaster?

Here is why Mike Pence is dangerous.

Mike Pence is a legit, bonafide, right wing evangelical. He believes you can use shock treatment to make gay people straight. He will not consume alcohol unless his wife is present and will not dine with other women if his wife isn't present.

The right will rally around him. Not only will they love his beliefs after Mr. Fucks Pornstars Raw, they will love that he is calm, professional, and willing to carry out their agenda.

Many people could see him as reasonable so he could attract a good number of votes from independents. He could easily sell himself as someone with Trump's economic ideas (which Republicans love) without all the other shit (which they don't). In short, he could be hard to beat in an election. With the newly right-leaning Supreme Court, Pence could rally Republicans and and take this country on a hard turn to the right.

Another thing to think about. If Pence were to serve less than 2 years of Trump's term, he could then run for election twice. Yes, we could end up with nearly 10 years of Pence.

Nope, he will not step down. That's not in his nature.

In the past when he has a failure he just throws money at it, and it's quickly forgotten. The vast majority of people rarely heard of his failures in the past - and they have been HUGE failures.

That's not going to happen in this case. The entire world is watching and everything that is happening is being recorded for all of history. His administration (and his ego) are going to come crashing down in flames, it's going to take out dozens of people, it's going to destroy his businesses, and it's going to destroy his family.

Donald Trump will be the Richard Nixon of our generation, but it will be much worse. Richard Nixon resigned, and that was that. In this case Trump's business will be in tatters, and his family members will be in jail.

If this isn't bad enough, think about what this is going to do to the Republican party for the next two decades. The last Republican president left us in the worst recession of our lifetimes, and Trump will be lucky if he avoids prison. Do you really think we can trust the Republican party again?

Please let it happen

Mueller is sending dog whistles telling Trump that he's going to take down Trump org & his family if he doesn't sit down with Mueller for questioning. If Trump let's his family & business get tagged instead of him taking the fall it shows what a low life he is.

I don't think he would ever resign. Gulianni said "Our Jury is the American People" just recently. If Mueller splashed the Russian Pee Recording on Fox News, Trump would still try to spin it, and probably do a good job of it, and still pretend he's winning as long as there's still applause for him.

It will rise surely

I've said it a dozen times before, over many months. And I'll say it again:

By this time next week, Hillary Clinton will be sitting in the White House as the President of the United States of America. Mark my words.

i wish we could set a timer for 5 years from now

Imagine that. Almost the same portion of people that voted for an unconvicted multi-felon, Hillary.

Wow... you guys seem to constantly manage to make bigger fools out of yourself lol... if i were you i would stop taking these biased anti Trump 'predictions' and 'polls' seriously...

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CNN, MSNBC Say ‘Impeachment’ 222 Times in One Day

The desire is the father of the thought.

The above link is yet more proof of how propaganda works. There are no grounds for impeachment whatsoever, it's not relevant at all (how harsh this may sound to you idiots who obviously believe all the lies).

Yet the media is constantly repeating it to rile you up, and it works. The media talks about it, and you repeat it. Skipping any form of critical thinking and weighing what is bullshit and what isn't... You just parrot. Parroting anything they tell you.

with this post you refute your own statement.
if on the one hand you claim that this kind of propaganda works and compares it with the real result (in which trump has also lost) you see exactly that the people to the left and in the middle do not wash their brains as easily as the far less educated right radical people do.
out of that it proves yourself a fool to understand this polling. it is NOT talking about an election result - it is talking about the probability that hillary will win the elections. and as you see now they have been correct because hillary WON the public votes with 3 million more votes than trump.

from a purely psychological point of view, one can certainly compare trumps triumph with victory hitlers because both have won their victory with the voice of the short-sighted and gullible.

and no - I personally don´t think that all would be fine with hillaray or sanders or any other republican, democrat or t-party member.
I personally think all would be better when people are educated to think and not to believe every bullshit what is copyable without brainwork.

Impeached for fucking some hookers .... i Always understood that was part of the job. What happens in the white house, stays in the whitehouse. Except when you put a cigar in a pussy. I would bet against the mainstraim odds.

they will suffer anyway because the signs for the US economy are not good.
the consequences of market overheating and trump´s idiotic economic policy are likely to have an impact very soon. no matter who is in office.

for me this investigation is going into a much different direction.
trump alone is not the target. When muller's done, he's gonna charge the entire mafia clan that trained around trump. and you can not really believe that pence did not know about those things.

it never had happen in the US history that a sitting president plus his vice president are impeached (I don´t even know if this is possible) but just imagine this situation for a moment....

mueller is in this dilemma. he has to decide whether he acts in the sense of the constitution and thus eliminates the whole apparatus and consequently triggers a situation for which one has no solution or he simply does not act in the sense of the constitution - which would not change the situation much, either.

i don't really want to sit on muller's chair - the decision between good and evil doesn't even play a primary role. the decision between good and bad for the country is here the much more complicated one.

he will not be impeached for that. in those cases it was always a privilege of the republicans that only democrats can be impeached for this kind of bullshit.

he will be impeached because he is damaging the country.
and whatever helps to impeach him will be used (or do you really think that clinton´s problem was a cigar in a pussy?).

everyone (including the reps) knows that trump is doing wrong. they used him for their tax cuts (what was done a few times before and failed) and legalize the piracy in the financial markets again (a new letter of release to cheat on normal people) - but he is good for nothing else. for the consequences they can always blame trump.
but the consequences on the international stage are a different thing and can not be fought with uneducated people.

everyone who tells me that trump makes a good job and brought the economy up should answer me just the following question:

IF a country is in a good economic position WHY does it need MORE debts as in the time when it was in no good condition?
why does it not pay back debts instead?

this must be understandable for even the biggest moron because it is a basic economic rule what is valid for EVERY household.

My experience with people who favor Trump over the rest, is that they're able to think. They can see the bigger picture, the real world. I'm also talking about people i know 'in real life': Everyone i know who favors Trump is aware of how the world works and is a thinker...i can have very deep conversations with them on just about any topic.
Everyone i know who does not favor Trump has a shallow look on things and is more confined and limited to a smaller world, as if they're in a box mentally. They can be intelligent, but they're mostly unaware what is happening around the world and they're also not curious or interested in it. :2 cents:

Beste for the USA is when Mueller gets fired. He fucks up the USA for no more than some minor shit that happened. A Clinton/media puppet. Clinton tried to put Trump away as asshole, looks like some people on Trumps team did the same to Clinton. It is called politics and some are bad losers.

Any odds on a massive heart attack? That's what I'm pulling for. A simple myocardial infarction could solve many of the world's problem right now.

Europe doing the same, making more debts. Most European countries have more debts than the USA. And it is just in line what is happening since 2002 with the grow of debts in the USA.

In Holland it is also Always the question if the government should pay off debts. Sometimes they said that interest was so cheap, better to invest now and make more debts.

In the end, we all know what comes up, must go down.

Maybe if trump was a know-nothing degenerate from south america his actions would be acceptable.

You can tell that GFY has turned into surfers instead of webmasters when posts like this don't get the attention it deserves. Kane is 100% correct, and Pence would end online porn overnight. If keeping Trump as president for 2 more years prevents this from happening, then so be it.

Pence the righteous, yet he is ok with all of the Trump nonsense ?

The lying, the pornstars, the theft, the rascism, the tax evasion etc.

Pence is the zealot yet he turns a blind eye to it all and says absolutely nothing ?

Something does not add up.

:2 cents:

wow, you're blind.

Pence is the establishment puppet placed by the GOP in exchange for Trump being able to run on their ticket. It was a deal so they have at least one option of keeping control. They place their puppet (Pence) in exchange for president Trump.

The GOP hates trump. The DNC hates Trump.
In short, the corrupt political establishment hates Trump.
Which makes Trump the best choice for president in at least 30 years.

Get used to it. Pence is irrelevant, he is part of the establishment scumbag network. A cockroach hoping for his turn, to continue the Bush - Obama - Clinton war agenda killing hundreds of thousands of human beings. A low life "VP", a rat, a backstabber, who will betray Trump any chance he gets. He is the 'ball n chain' Trump has to put up with, otherwise he had to run as an independent and have no chance at all.

Pence is also patient. He knows one of best ways to become President is to be VP. He likely either convinces himself that God wants him to help Trump or that God is with him so he can overlook Trump's actions because it could lead to him (meaning Pence) being able to spread the word if he can get into the oval office.

You're wrong and you think like a child. Read my post above and meet reality. It's about power and control. The fairy tales you list are only used to create fake arguments for actions the dumb will believe.

You've never failed at a business venture? Or done a bankruptcy? It's a pretty neat protective measure that is a gift provided to you.

It's not about fraud or unable to pay bills. Shitty investments happen.

add failed presidency to that impressive list :2 cents: :thumbsup

Donald Trump is a grifter.

This more than anything should prove how insane his base is and that they are a cult. The fact that the base approval never changes not matter what he does. These people are brainwashed simpletons.

No way he steps down, no way he loses the primary, if dems win house he WILL be impeached he will not be removed. If dems win the house he will lose in 2020, most likely.

I respect some republicans, and I hate some democrats, though I've usually voted democrat.

The fact is republicans are somehow still the party of opposition. They got all the chambers and 2/3rd of the state houses and they can't really do anything. Maybe they really are cucks, or maybe they are establishment or whatever. Who knows.

Maybe they're happier on the ground fighting than being in control.

All the far right relgious nutters are hypocrites.. They cheer trump on while he literally breaks pretty much every single one of the 10 commandments.. Religious nutters are the biggest hypocrites there are. The same evangelists rallied around the pedo Roy Moore..

Tell me which one Trump hasnt violated... He's ordered drone strikes so he cant even get a pass on not murdering..

The Ten Commandments
You shall have no other Gods but me.
You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.
Respect your father and mother.
You must not commit murder.
You must not commit adultery.
You must not steal.
You must not give false evidence against your neighbour.
You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour.

Religion wasn't meant for politicians. It's sole purpose is to control the people.

Who controls the politicians?

Dead presidents

Damn you're good! :1orglaugh:thumbsup

3 months after his election the odds were 49%