Canada is a Socialist nightmare
 

Let me ask you one question:

What kind of country feels that it must control what a person can watch or read? What kind of freedom is it when the Government must "look out" for you like a Big Brother?

For example, I ordered an adult magazine from Score Group (as you know, they are not on the edge or anything) and it was confiscated by customs due to objectionable material....A magazine that in the United States nobody would care if you purchased..

This is freedom? This is a joke, a mockery of democracy. This is a place where your freedom is taken away from you gracefully and with a smile, nevertheless, it is as draconian as any other oppresive government.

What is the price you are willing to pay for your freedom? A good home - but at the expense of your right to act - but only in the ways conforming to state-sanctioned rules. A clean neighbourhood - but at the expense of somebody knowing everything you do, and every action you take?

It is shameful and primitive. Ok, I am done now.

We both know the customs guy wanted to beat off and had the chance to seize it...

Seriously though, they can seize porn mags like that?
WG

Province of Quebec is worse. Socialists run rampant and free

They can do whatever they want when you're in their country (to a certain degree). I went to a gaming LAN in Canada (Ontario) and they tried to confiscate my PC saying that was illegally smuggling it across the borders for purpose of reselling. They decided to "let me keep it" but then tried to charge me a 350 USD duty.

After 45 minutes of argueing, they let me on my way...tax free with my PC in tact.

Back the fuck up, asshole.

Canada customs will seize ANY porn regardless whether it is legal in Canada or not.

Its an importing issue. If you do it through a business just about anything can be brought through, just look at the crazy shit AOV carries without a problem.

If you think what you are importing is legal then you have 90 days to dispute it before they "destroy it" (ie, take it home to wank off with).

yeah, the irony is here I can go on the Internet and subscribe from Canada to a pissing site, an extreme bondage site and that is ok because nobody knows about it, right?

The problem is when you, a free person, have to become sneaky just to do the things that are your natural freedom to do. That is just damn annoying. Then if they catch you, you are somehow supposed to feel "guility" for a crime that is in fact as natural as breathing.

why?

This would explain why its hard as hell to get a subscription to AOV under my name but under my company name was no problem.

WG

Ok, but at least you guy as thinking about decriminalizing marijuana.... That will never happen here in the US, so how free are we?

We all have our bullshit, stop your whining.

If they enacted a law saying you could only breathe once every minute, being as it is the law, you would feel compelled to file paperwork proving your right to a basic freedom? Fuck that.

Hey I don't work there, I don't know what their problem is. Bunch of fucking christians and moms probablly running the show.

They always steal porn, thats just their thing.

Problem is they haven't been sued for enough money yet. Since they are the CCRA now, they have unlimited resources for their book burning campaign.

Just smoke a joint and tell Score they pooched your shit, they will probablly send you another one. If you got the customs form email them a scanned copy.

Well this seems odd, I cross the border whenever I go to the shows and I occassionally have porn mags that I bring back from the shows that I pick up and I've had my bags searched before by customs and never a problem. So if I'm with the porn its fine but its not fine if its mailed to me? Do you happen to have any links to clarify what it allowed and what isn't?

WG

Dont get me started on the fucking canadian customs.....I order 2 cartons of Marlbero's off the internet cause we dont have them in stores here, and when they got to the post office they wanted me to pay $30 customs tax on a $20 carton of smokes....thats fucking stupid....I just told them to keep the fucking smokes...im not paying $60 tax ontop of $40 worth of smokes...

The border officers only care about collecting duty and taxes on what you buy and making sure you aren't bringing in drugs or unclaimed tobacco / alcohol.


Whats not allowed for porn when its being mailed?

anything "offending to community standards"

Which is %99 of the problem. It means they can take whatever they feel like taking.

Where are you getting 20.00 cartons.... That is cheap, I pay around 37.00 here in AZ. Please send me the link.

Try buying a $18 case of watery american beer and paying $32 duty crossing into canada

Don't drink american beer... Watery is right, I like Bass Ale and Fosters.... my two favorite.

I AM MOVING TO CANADA.

If the mags are mailed, they go through the postal service, from the USPS to Canada Post. Once they get to Canada Post, a postal inspector will randomly sample them and if he has a problem he sends them to canada customs, which has facilities within the large post offices. At this point you're ar at the mercy of that customs inspector. Really large magazines, (playboy, penthouse) arrange for a pre clearance, so customs has aleady approved the magazine before they enter Canada. The other option is to have the magazines printed in and shipped from Canada.

I would confiscate a Score magazine on the basis of its being stupid. A chick can be defective in just about every other way (cellulite, thick ankles, face that looks like it was struck by lightning), but if she has jugs larger than her head, she's in. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../1orglaugh.gif
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There are shitloads of online "dutyfree" websites....no tabacoo tax cause they are selling out of the country....only thing is they dont tell you the catch......fucking customs.....

Do we have that here in the states? Customs? Don't mean to sound stupid... Never been out of the states before. Not even Mexico or Canada.

I had books seized once because they were considered "hate material." Orwell sure saw it coming.

Ironically, I've never had a problem with on-line pharmacies. "Fill yourself with benzos and dbols, my son, but do not read politically incorrect material!" Great country, really.

You lucky bastards get Marlbero's, I gotta smoke my crappy canadian cigerettes with 2,000 less chemicals :(

shut your mouth you dumb fuck and open your eyes before i give your Burnaby living ass a concrete sandwich.

Read and fucking absorb!

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http://canada.com/national/story.asp...0-E6FE1D3B8144
U.S. says Canada cares too much about liberties

The United States says the lack of funding for police and restrictive privacy legislation in Canada are frustrating probes of political extremists.

The comments in an annual report on international terrorism were the latest critical remarks from the U.S. apparently aimed at prodding Canada to bring its security measures in line.

The State Department report on global terrorism for 2002 suggests that while Canada has been helpful in the fight against terrorism, it doesn't spend enough on policing and places too much emphasis on civil liberties.

It says "some U.S. law enforcement officers have expressed concern" about Canadian privacy laws.

The U.S. officers feel those laws, as well as funding levels for law enforcement, "inhibit a fuller and more timely exchange of information and response to requests for assistance," the report says.

"Also, Canadian laws and regulations intended to protect Canadian citizens and landed immigrants from government intrusion sometimes limit the depth of investigations."

Under the U.S.-Canada Terrorist Interdiction Program, known as TIP, Canada records about one "hit" of known or suspected terrorists a week from the State Department's visa lookout list. The initiative involves software that enhances the ability of border officials to collect, compare and analyse traveller data, allowing them to identify and track people of interest.

Spokesmen for the Solicitor General's Department were not available to comment on the report.

The U.S. observations come amid heightened tension between the two countries following Washington's public expression of disappointment that Canadian forces did not join the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

In releasing the report, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said although there has been great progress in the last year, terrorism still "casts its grim shadow" across the globe.

The number of terrorist attacks dropped to 199 in 2002 from 355 the previous year. Still, Mr. Powell noted, assaults occurred in every region of the world, claiming 725 lives. Terrorist bombings in Bali last fall killed about 200 people from two dozen countries, including Canada.

Despite the report's criticism of certain Canadian practices, it included effusive praise for the federal government's overall efforts to work with the U.S. in the fight against extrem-ism, calling the relationship "a model for bilateral co-operation on counter-terrorism issues."

Seven American law-enforcement agencies have posted officers to Ottawa and other Canadian cities, while a number of Canadian personnel are assigned to the U.S.

The report also notes Canada's passage of anti-terrorism legislation, its move to create a formal list of terrorist organizations and participation in various international anti-crime forums.

The comments follow State Department remarks in a March report on narcotics and money laundering that urged Canada to ensure privacy protection measures do not prevent the timely sharing of financial information that might be critical to police investigations.

The same report took issue with Canada's move to make possession of small amounts of marijuana a ticketing offence rather than a criminal one. "This will not only harm Canadian society, but have consequences for the United States as well," the report said.

Justice Minister Martin Cauchon reiterated yesterday that legislation to decriminalize marijuana will be tabled soon, while Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper said the move would inflame tensions with the U.S.

"Now would not be the time to irritate trade relations and we've already had plenty of warning that this would do just that."

for sure

Seriously. I am afraid I will end up in jail or something.

IF I EVER GET BUSTED IM MOVING TO CANADA.

If you are importing/ordering products from outside the counrty, US customs will be involved. That doesnt mean you will have problems though.

Figures, fucking government has to get their nose up my ass even when ordering on-line. I hate those fuckers.

LOL I doubt you'd end up in jail here in Canada.....you can get away with anything. And if you do end up going to jail, be prepared for a comfy cell with a TV and internet access....
We give serial killers fucking cells with computers in them :disgust

And yet you can't get a silly little porn mag... Wow!

Ok, a trip to Canada may be possible then... :) Sounds better than our jails here. Dirty, smelly and big hairy men named bubba.

I could not agree more Scorpion. And many others have similar tales about the CCRA (Canada Customs and Revenue Agency). It is not much of an exageration to say that the CCRA is currently to Canadian society what the Nazi Party's SS Corps was to German society of the 1930s.

BTW, I bet that your magazine came through the Vancouver CCRA office? There is something about the Vancouver CCRA office that is genuinely out of control.

I collect old pulp magazines (the G-rated kind) off EBay and I NEVER once had one of my purchases inspected by CCRA when living in Ontario. But since moving out west 8 months ago I have had about 8 of 20 pulp magazine shipments inspected by CCRA Vancouver. (if you get a shipment that has been opened by CCRA, it will be identified as such with red and white tape and label identifying where it was inspected).

There is something truly sinister and evil at work at Vancouver Customs.

If you think you have more freedom in the USA than in Canada you're out of your mind. Say that to the million+ people in prison for smoking pot. Say that to the 18 year olds who will be getting drafted when they go to war against North Korea and/or China.

The trick is to move before you get busted. :stoned

There are no people in prison for simply smoking pot.
There is no draft.

LOL

In Quebec a store has to have it's English signs about 10 feet back from the window or the language police will give the store owner a fine.

Meanwhile throughout the rest of Canada, even in our Aboriginal Innuit territories, all documents are printed in English AND French.

:1orglaugh

There are millions of people in the USA in prison for simple possession. These aren't dealers, you have to possess it to smoke it.


There has been, and there will be again.

ya we wan't to decriminalize marijuana possession but our big brother is threatening us:
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/05/02/us_pot_rxn030502

I was thinking that Finland & Sweden are those nightmares... but it seems that I was wrong.

When I imported Air Taser to Finland - courier delivered it without problems and customs sent invoice by post... no problems at all. It's illegal in F.Finland.

When I imported 8000 VHS / DVD porn movies including hardcore BDSM - again courier delivered them and no customs bill at all. Ok, this shit was legal to import in F.Finland, but ... illegal to sell without gov.pre screening few years ago.

Why I like much more Amsterdam, St.Peterburg, Bangkok and Dallas???

Couriers (especially UPS) won't let customs fuck with their business like that. If you are importing something questionable FedEX or UPS will get it through customs without a problem.

If someone in America is dumb enough to send porn via USPS they just plain don't give a fuck.

Are you in Canada ordering this stuff? If so what is the link? I sure could use some V's every now and then LOL Not to mention Vicodin once a month;)