Why not leave NATO?
The US does not need to protect Europe any longer. Why not let them protect themselves. What does the US gain from this arrangement?
We leave and save tons of money. We could drop the size of military by 50%. We would have a balanced budget overnight. Welcome to the new Clinton era type boom. PS they are on the US platform as far as weapons go so sales would be robust until they developed their own. Just as a practical idea what use is NATO? The US invaded Russia once but I don’t think they have ever attacked the US. |
Why does Putin want NATO disbanded?
The answer to that question is the reason not to leave NATO. The answer is @ 2:39 here courtesy Fox news 2 years ago |
Sorry dude, I can’t see your stuff. Give up the fake posts. Just my opinion.
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Your apology is accepted. Your ignorance is bliss I'm sure, though you seem confused & severely uneducated about NATO.
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NATO was originally created to defend Europe from the Soviet Union (and so on). However, this has changed in the past two decades. While you can still argue Europe needs to be defending from Russia, the truth is it was Europe who has come to the defense of the United States and assisted us in both Iraq and Afghanistan. At the same, the United States needs bases in Europe in order to continue to operate in certain areas.
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The bases I get but that would allow us to back off on some of our dumber moves. By that I mean Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Trump is pro oil industry he'll never move off Iraq or Afghanistan.
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mostly because europeans do not take their own security seriously. anyone in this debate should already know that.
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Nato is what keeps peace
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Are you so arrogant that you think NATO is just some bunch of countries suckling on the mighty teat of the great and powerful United States? Arrangements with allies have benefits that go in different directions. Donald Trump views NATO as he views trade...it's a zero-sum game with a winner and a loser. But that's not how the world works. Most people (and hopefully you) enter relationships for mutual benefit at the very least. Are these concepts your mongoloid brain can grasp? The bottom line is: If Putin wants it, then it can't be a good thing. But isn't he your hero? You should go suck his nuts if you love him so much. |
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this whole protection racket is bullshit run by the US arms lobby...you can now invade a country over complete lies, kill off 500.000 people and nobody will go to jail...
this bullshit needs to stop and people need to nuke and bacteria up... when the invader government starts making plans about invasion you just go like "oooooops nuclear countdown motherfuckers" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh and the invader stays home...when the invader government thinks you should jump through their hoops and they start planning economic terrorism you just be like "ooooooops nuclear countdown motherfuckers" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh and the invader finds somebody else to oppress... as long as there are weak countries the invader will invade... |
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Just change "protect" on "occupation". And you will understand.:1orglaugh
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the US doesn´t protect Europe, being over here in Europe makes it more control for you. There´s so many US air bases in the UK, France, well, every country in the world, keeping you on the ball and secure. Welcoming you to leave, the world can just get on with enjoying the day to day life we want to live with out war. |
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which is it? |
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If you agree with Chump and think the US should pull out of NATO, just google "what did NATO do after 9/11" and see if you still agree.
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NATO was organized in 1949 for security over the Soviets due a series of events including Stalin's Atomic Bomb testing- and later, the 1950s Soviet Union and China treaty which contained other agreements including talks of Japans aggression. That turned out to be a big schmooze but, the East didn't know what was contained in that PRC / Soviet 'treaty' between Zedong and Stalin. My point is, there is no more Cold War. With today's technology, there is no such thing as a secret meeting. If it's detected that troops are advancing, we'll know within minutes. The United States is the 22 percent financial backbone of NATO-- as our NATO allies are paying NATO % rates based from 1952. If you do not see anything wrong with other NATO allies paying a 1952 rate, then you need to have your head examined. Trump can't be bothered with NATO as Obama couldn't be bothered. Either Obama would sit and read his iPAD during NATO talks or he would let the U.S. Ambassador to NATO handle NATO. The United States does not need to be involved in NATO just to keep a eye on Terrorist Cells (Who we already have Intel on) or loosing sleep because Putin may advance his troops. Israel has already told the United States not to become involved with the Israel / Iran feud. NATO, why ? /Rant |
If a flare up occurs around those man made islands in the South China Sea maybe then the doubters would change their minds.
History would end up repeating itself. There would be some kind of incursion by another large power, like what has happened in Ukraine, trying to take over countries one by one. Sooner or later it would trigger another all out war in Europe. Much better keeping up the deterrent, we all share similar values. |
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