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dyna mo 07-02-2018 07:28 AM

bombshell report: new U.S. intelligence assessment on North Korea nukes
 
According to multiple intelligence sources familiar with the work, Pyongyang has increased its production of fuel for nuclear warheads at what could be several “secret sites” over several months.

And worst of all, it appears that Chairman Kim Jong Un is trying to hide these facilities, all the while claiming he wishes to denuclearize his nation, a promise the young dictator made to President Trump at the Singapore summit last month.


Various U.S. intelligence officials, contrary to administration claims, see Pyongyang as a very dangerous nuclear threat, whose weapons arsenal is only growing by the day.

NBC cites more than “a dozen American officials” who see the regime as attempting to gain as many concessions from the Trump administration as possible, all while “clinging to nuclear weapons it believes are essential to survival.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-k...-say-u-n887926

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 07:33 AM

Watch what happens...

dyna mo 07-02-2018 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297602)
Watch what happens...

should i get some really dark sunglasses to watch?

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297609)
should i get some really dark sunglasses to watch?

Whatever makes you the most comfortable for future viewing. :thumbsup

I don't expect you to agree with me - you've made your position on this clear.

Mainly, I position for the future so when it's shown that I am correct on this and that the negative info is fake and disseminated on purpose, you will have a person you can trust to go to for the truth because he told it to you all along... :winkwink:

Rochard 07-02-2018 07:54 AM

So far.... The United States has pulled some troops out of North Korea and canceled and joint training, and in return.... North Korea has committed to "continuing talks about the possibility of removing nuclear weapons".

Now I am reading any deal made with North Korea will not result any NK removing or destroying nuclear weapons until the very last step. This means we give NK everything they want, and then hope they keep their end of the deal.

More winning.

dyna mo 07-02-2018 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297616)
Whatever makes you the most comfortable for future viewing. :thumbsup

I don't expect you to agree with me - you've made your position on this clear.

Mainly, I position for the future so when it's shown that I am correct on this and that the negative info is fake and disseminated on purpose, you will have a person you can trust to go to for the truth because he told it to you all along... :winkwink:

yes yes that 9 dimensional chess thing eh. it's all going according to trump's 60,000 foot level negotiating strategy. very clever of trump to give away things like military training in the region so Un can keep building nukes all to make Un stop building nukes.

Cheeky!

directfiesta 07-02-2018 07:58 AM

No preparation was needed ... it was all a question of ' attitude ' ....

... meanwhile, in Iran ....


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


PS: please build the wall on the north border, high enough to stop the radiation from coming to my country .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
PS2: ask Mexico to pay for it .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297622)
yes yes that 9 dimensional chess thing eh. it's all going according to trump's 60,000 foot level negotiating strategy. very clever of trump to give away things like military training in the region so Un can keep building nukes all to make Un stop building nukes.

Cheeky!

No worries, amigo! I'll be here when the time comes - until then, enjoy the theater. :pimp

Yep, nothing happening in Iran at all. Do NOT look over there.

dyna mo 07-02-2018 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297630)
No worries, amigo! I'll be here when the time comes - until then, enjoy the theater. :pimp

Yep, nothing happening in Iran at all. Do NOT look over there.

one of the big reasons I'm critical of the NK "deal" is on account of Iran. they're certainly watching the trump double-speak, high 5ing Un for being a classy guy due to his nuclear arsenal and giving away voluntarily things like military training in the region. why wouldn't iran follow trump's lead and agree to canceling the iran deal. Fire up the centrifuges!

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 08:25 AM

You might want to consider that "trump's 60,000 foot level" makes the field look a bit different than it does to you.

Anyway - this will accomplish nothing to change your mind and I understand that. Only time will make that happen and time isn't going anywhere..,

dyna mo 07-02-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297641)
You might want to consider that "trump's 60,000 foot level" makes the field look a bit different than it does to you.

Anyway - this will accomplish nothing to change your mind and I understand that. Only time will make that happen and time isn't going anywhere..,

are you open to the possibilty that Un tricked Trump?

nevermind how trump voluntarily gave away concessions for zilch in return.

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297642)
are you open to the option that Un tricked Trump?

nevermind how trump voluntarily gave away concessions for zilch in return.

Almost anything is possible, however unlikely.

It is my opinion that you do not understand what is happening or the reasons for it, and that your view is very biased for anti-Trump reasons.

Trump is not giving away concessions for zilch in return - does that SOUND like this President? Maybe to you. To the rest of us with eyeballs, President Trump plays hardball without a flinch - fire and fury, global tariffs, Iranian bad deal dumped, immigration, etc.

Trump is giving North Korea MASSIVE face in an arena where it's coin of the realm. This is what previous admins did not understand. It would be pure folly to go in there and act like a conqueror - THIS is the strategy that will work.

We are now partners and allies with NK - believe what you like. :winkwink:

dyna mo 07-02-2018 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297652)
Almost anything is possible, however unlikely.

It is my opinion that you do not understand what is happening or the reasons for it, and that your view is very biased for anti-Trump reasons.

Trump is not giving away concessions for zilch in return - does that SOUND like this President? Maybe to you. To the rest of us with eyeballs, President Trump plays hardball without a flinch - fire and fury, global tariffs, Iranian bad deal dumped, immigration, etc.

Trump is giving North Korea MASSIVE face in an arena where it's coin of the realm. This is what previous admins did not understand. It would be pure folly to go in there and act like a conqueror - THIS is the strategy that will work.

We are now partners and allies with NK - believe what you like. :winkwink:


this isn't about me so your opinion of me isn't relevant. the fact are

1. trump voluntarily stopped current military training in the region
2. Un has not stopped any current anything, in fact, quite the opposite, confirmed by multiple sources.
3. trump already declared NK is no longer a nuclear threat, when in fact, it's a very real threat.

none of those has anything to do with me or my view of trump. You look at those facts and think they are all part of this master trump super negotiating strategy that we're all supposed to hold our breath in anticipation of denuking while I see those facts supporting the bigger fact that there is no deal at all, regardless of my view on trump.

I'd like to know what trump is going to do when he has to confront the reality that he's been played by Un. that's my opinion on the facts above.

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297660)
this isn't about me so your opinion of me isn't relevant. the fact are

1. trump voluntarily stopped current military training in the region
2. Un has not stopped any current anything, in fact, quite the opposite, confirmed by multiple sources.
3. trump already declared NK is no longer a nuclear threat, when in fact, it's a very real threat.

none of those has anything to do with me or my view of trump. You look at those facts and think they are all part of this master trump super negotiating strategy that we're all supposed to hold our breath in anticipation of denuking while I see those facts supporting the bigger fact that there is no deal at all, regardless of my view on trump.

I'd like to know what trump is going to do when he has to confront the reality that he's been played by Un. that's my opinion on the facts above.

See it how you like, amigo. One of us will be right. :thumbsup

dyna mo 07-02-2018 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297668)
See it how you like, amigo. One of us will be right. :thumbsup

I keep waiting for some good news on it. there are certainly more than a couple trumpers here who would start a thread about that if there were any good denuke news, just to rub my nose in my view on the matter.

so even trumpers really know there is no good news to report. It appears they have an issue with realizing there is no deal. we're all just supposed to hold our collective breath and trust in trump's "attitude" strategy while we watch NK continue nuking up.

Rochard 07-02-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297622)
yes yes that 9 dimensional chess thing eh. it's all going according to trump's 60,000 foot level negotiating strategy. very clever of trump to give away things like military training in the region so Un can keep building nukes all to make Un stop building nukes.

Cheeky!

Mr. trump calls himself the "master negotiator" but yet almost two years in office and he has yet to negotiate a single deal.

Rochard 07-02-2018 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297660)
this isn't about me so your opinion of me isn't relevant. the fact are

1. trump voluntarily stopped current military training in the region
2. Un has not stopped any current anything, in fact, quite the opposite, confirmed by multiple sources.
3. trump already declared NK is no longer a nuclear threat, when in fact, it's a very real threat.

none of those has anything to do with me or my view of trump. You look at those facts and think they are all part of this master trump super negotiating strategy that we're all supposed to hold our breath in anticipation of denuking while I see those facts supporting the bigger fact that there is no deal at all, regardless of my view on trump.

I'd like to know what trump is going to do when he has to confront the reality that he's been played by Un. that's my opinion on the facts above.

Facts don't matter to trump people. At all.

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297671)
I keep waiting for some good news on it. there are certainly more than a couple trumpers here who would start a thread about that if there were any good denuke news, just to rub my nose in my view on the matter.

so even trumpers really know there is no good news to report. It appears they have an issue with realizing there is no deal. we're all just supposed to hold our collective breath and trust in trump's "attitude" strategy while we watch NK continue nuking up.

Wait, you aren't seeing any good news to report?

It must not be happening.

Curses, foiled again!

crockett 07-02-2018 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297602)
Watch what happens...

We already have.. NK got everything they asked for and more... Yet did nothing in return but blow up a few cave entrances to a complex that was likely unstable and not capable of being used again...


The art of the deal, is not about making deals.. it's about brainwashing you..

onwebcam 07-02-2018 09:18 AM

This is being pushed by Susan "Youtube video did it" Rice.. Total scare tactic from the left... I see a lefty mentioned Iran.. Why isn't she talking about what's going on there? "The leaks are real, the news is fake."

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22297683)
We already have.. NK got everything they asked for and more... Yet did nothing in return but blow up a few cave entrances to a complex that was likely unstable and not capable of being used again...


The art of the deal, is not about making deals.. it's about brainwashing you..

Done replying to you until you confirm or deny your belief in Mrs. Bladewire fake nic lies.

dyna mo 07-02-2018 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297682)
Wait, you aren't seeing any good news to report?

It must not be happening.

Curses, foiled again!

You claim the reason there is no good news to report is due to my and MSM's anti-trump bias and our lack of comprehending trump's ultra sophisticated negotiating tactics.

I claim the reason there is no good news is because satellite images and intelligent assessments reveal there is no good news.

why would I forgo facts? because....trump?

dyna mo 07-02-2018 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297652)

It is my opinion that you do not understand what is happening or the reasons for it, and that your view is very biased for anti-Trump reasons.

keep in mind I'm only really hyper critical of trump with the NK nuclear deal. sure, he's a horrible person and a deal breaker, not a deal maker. but those things don't concern me as much as the nuclear sitch. I prolly wouldn't even be that concerned about nukes if trump hadn't threatened nuclear war and made big dick references to America's nuclear arsenal.

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297690)
You claim the reason there is no good news to report is due to my and MSM's anti-trump bias and our lack of comprehending trump's ultra sophisticated negotiating tactics.

I claim the reason there is no good news is because satellite images and intelligent assessments reveal there is no good news.

why would I forgo facts? because....trump?

That's not what I claim at all - LOL!

You are seeing what you are intended to see and then interpret that as good or bad.

Since neither of us can prove anything at all, we are left with our opinions on what is happening. One of us will be right. I suggest you bookmark this thread, and we'll revisit it later this year because one of us will have bragging rights.

onwebcam 07-02-2018 09:49 AM

Bolton says the US has a plan to dismantle North Korea’s nuclear program within a year
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashp...YHIohY.twitter

TheSquealer 07-02-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22297624)
No preparation was needed ... it was all a question of ' attitude ' ....

... meanwhile, in Iran ....


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


PS: please build the wall on the north border, high enough to stop the radiation from coming to my country .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
PS2: ask Mexico to pay for it .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

and on the world stage and in dealing with any global issues of consequence or influencing anything at all... anywhere.... Canada is still 100% irrelevant.

crockett 07-02-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297688)
Done replying to you until you confirm or deny your belief in Mrs. Bladewire fake nic lies.

That's fine sweetheart.. I'll be here waiting for you to denounce Republicans & Trump for supporting Nazis and White Supremacist.

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22297727)
That's fine sweetheart.. I'll be here waiting for you to denounce Republicans & Trump for supporting Nazis and White Supremacist.

I don't care if you support Mrs. Bladewire's political opinions - that is expected. Until recently, I have assumed that we disagree politically but that you were intellectually honest about who is who. I can see I was wrong. Toodles.

2MuchMark 07-02-2018 10:25 AM

Doesn't he look like he knows what he's doing?
https://foreignpolicymag.files.wordp...crop=0,0,267,0

dyna mo 07-02-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xClips Jim (Post 22297702)
That's not what I claim at all - LOL!

You are seeing what you are intended to see and then interpret that as good or bad.

Since neither of us can prove anything at all, we are left with our opinions on what is happening. One of us will be right. I suggest you bookmark this thread, and we'll revisit it later this year because one of us will have bragging rights.

I appreciate the clarification! :thumbsup And you know I've already said elsewhere I hope you are right and that I am wrong.

xClips Jim 07-02-2018 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 22297746)
I appreciate the clarification! :thumbsup And you know I've already said elsewhere I hope you are right and that I am wrong.

You're in luck, because I am. :)

I can't take much credit - I have friends on the ground in South Korea that have helped me understand how things work over there and they have 100% confidence in this strategy. It doesn't mean they are right, either - but if I had to bet on them or the American media or GFY - they get my money.


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