Taboo asian stepteen jizz faced and fucked in hi def
 

What a video title! what a description! what a thumb! :pimp

https://xhamster.com/videos/asian-st...-faced-9275810

If you like the promo content above, I urge you to work with AdultTubeSubmits! They are the kings of auto-cuts and poor titles! But at least they can do nice custom thimbs... oh, wait! :D

:1orglaugh

HAHAHA indeed! Genius!

Abusing Content Example #2

https://www.xvideos.com/video3565078...gramps_footjob

Take a look at the related clips. If you click ‘show more related videos’ you will see 10+ versions ‘edited’ from the full scene. Read the titles!!! :)

I guess they have hundreds of such accounts, with hundreds of videos on each.

Cirrigant - Profile page - XVIDEOS.COM
Handjobhillary - Profile page - XVIDEOS.COM
Heather-from-denver - Profile page - XVIDEOS.COM
Sarah19901 - Profile page - XVIDEOS.COM
Sallyslow83 - Profile page - XVIDEOS.COM
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/karlhoney
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/allancronk18
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/julijanaa26
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/micheller25
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/brightfighter58
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/janetj24
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/ivonnel25
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/anniec25
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/hildeg24
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/allisonw25
http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/carlyk26

https://i.imgflip.com/29k9bf.jpg

Oh, well . . .

Bump for some more exposure for the auto-cuts by AdultTubeSubmits.

I am curious if any of the studios they are working with ever checked what is happening with their content. I bet they don't really show samples of their work when approaching new clients..

Pretty fucking low thread. You have gone way down in my estimation.

so matkyo - you know the owner of adult tube submits, you know he is in hospital, and you know he can't reply to this thread. He is your direct competition, and you also know none of his stuff is done without sponsor knowledge.

Not only do you trash him when you know he cannot answer, in the hopes of stealing some custom away from him while he is in hospital/recovery, which is a fucking slimeball move in itself, you also break cardinal rule #1 of not showing other affiliates' work.

I'm curious if it's too many drugs finally taking their toll, bitterness that his company is larger than yours, pure greed trying to steal custom while a man is hospitalized, or all three.

I have a feeling this thread is going to backfire on you (not the first sleazy move you have made, by a long shot - plenty of people are aware of the problems trying to get accounts at gotporn which you now (bafflingly) run, and keep topped up with your own clips on the front page, as well as denying accounts to sponsors who don't use your service) - maybe these sponsors who you are trying to get to be your customers will see the behaviour of a guy willing to play very dirty, and stay away as a few bucks is obviously worth more to you than any integrity or transparency.

I guess the takeaways from this thread to those thinking of doing biz with you are:

1. you'll shit on them at the drop of a hat for a few extra bucks

2. you have zero integrity

3. you have no problem posting someone else's work and shitting on it, if you feel it will gain you some small leverage elsewhere

4. you're fairly petty (declining partner accounts at gotporn if the sponsor dosn't use your service)

Each to their own I guess, and you gotta do what works for you, but maybe remember your peers are always watching, and not nearly as in the dark as you might think, so be a bit careful spreading shit - invariably you get some on yourself.

I guess those bring traffic..

Just for others to know: I contacted Jel - because we know each other for some time - and explained to him my POV.

Let's begin with the most important fact: until Jel posted about it in this thread, I had Zero knowledge on Patrick being in hospital. I am not a guy who abuses such a situation.

Of course I was mad, pretty pissed off, and opened the thread under heavy emotions, and I was hoping to see them showing up and explaining their methods and the reasons for the poor work they do.

This is not this simple: I know they ask for permissions, but not for the specific cases. As far as I know, they are asking 'general' permissions from the sponsors, but not asking them if they allow opening 'official channels' on specific sites. Actually I know this for a fact, as my company handles the Content Partner Support on GotPorn.com . They were just creating new channels with rebranded banners, rebranded content, auto-cuts, poor titles and tags, without asking the studios if they are OK with having such a thing as their official representation. Of course they [the studios] don't like this! Nobody likes this... My company actually took the time and effort and mapped down all our competition with certain sponsors. There are bad webmasters of course, but most of them are small fishes and do not cause [significant] harm. I believe that it is different with ATS: they do harm with what they do. They do harm to all their hard-working competitors [small or big] and the studios as well. If a company is downloading a member scene, and splits it into parts and uploads it to everywhere they can: this is SHIT, not work.

I am confident to say that most studios who allow ATS to handle their content, have 0 ideas of what is happening, they just see the numbers which could be impressive. But this has a price. In my other thread, where I call out the 'AllNicheNetwork' dude: with those 30k video accounts, they made 30 sales per month to dogfart. The sponsor did not check in depth how he did that, they were happy to see the extra 30 sales.. Now when we sent them the accounts, they were upset and most of the content is already down, luckily. I bet the affiliate who brought 30 sales was causing way more damage at the same time, taking away more sales from the studio than what he brought.

1) Based on what I've told you and written above: there was no slimeball move.
2) I would like to debate this cardinal rule I never heard of: are you saying that I don't have the right to post shit if I find shit, just to prevent poor affiliate's poor work being exposed? I have no problems with anyone posting our work here. There's nothing I am supposed to hide from the studios, who fuccckiiing trust me with their content! I never abused their content, so I have nothing to afraid of. I do not avow this rule.

This is the first paragraph, when I felt hurt :( Untrue from A-Z :( Most likely because you felt offended so much, so no hard feelings here, I rather explain:

1) I am a close to 40 guy, who smokes weed regularly and takes psychedelic drugs occasionally, and this has No negative effect on me since day 0. I graduated as an environmental engineer, I am smart and healthy, have two wonderful daughters who I spend more valuable time with as any other fathers I know, a wonderful wife, deep and important friendships. My company is over 8 years old, we are a crew of 6 real humans, in a real office with superb office era!. Psychedelic "drugs" only made me a better person. On barely every level. For Real :) I am not a junkie

2) I don't know how large company they run, all I care is the work they are giving out of their hands. Frankly, I don't think that they work with more people - as it is a Fact that they automatize everything they can, and we make jokes in my office about their employees have MAC/IP addresses, instead of VAT/Healthcare IDs..

3) No need for their clients. I work with most of them already. It is their problem if they rather let these things happen with their content instead of hiring a good team to handle the content either in-house or a 3rd party. Calling me greedy is the biggest delusion here. I am a hippie, not a greedy person.

Yes, I know it might backfire, despite I am trying to explain my POV. It doesn't really matter. I will not lose clients as my partners are happy with our methods, results, and skills. If this scares away a possible client: I am not worried. If after all the above a studio owner thinks I am a bad person and chooses ATS over me: it is his problem. And I'd highlight this: my goal is not to drive ATS out of business or do harm to them. My goal is to make them Start Working For Real. Delete the fucking software they do everything with and start to work with doing an effort.

Let's discuss GotPorn: how do you know how my company manages the partner content? Name anyone who has or had trouble getting a partner account on GotPorn? GotPorn is not mine, I have a contract with the owners so we manage the Partner Accounts. GotProfits.com is a professional company, they have strict and written guidelines for everything, including the conditions on who and how can open an account/channel on GotPorn. Fact: You are 100% wrong: none of my team members have ANYthing to do with the main page listings. It is handled by an algo. We are uploaders as well on GotPorn, but can't prioritize content - at all. I think these are things you've heard from Patrick. Did he tell you that when BangBros and AdultForce approached us to had over the channels [that were handled by ATS in 90%], I was doing my best to prevent their content to be wiped from the site? I convinced the decision makers of GotPorn, and the two studios to let the content remain on the site, by creating a brand new user type, just for ATS, where they had no channel, but kept all the content with the main banner remaining there too, providing benefits to them alone? Yes, I was actually fighting for them to be able to keep the work they did so far [even if I disliked that work!].. It would be very very easy to just let them delete the content and start from scratch...

Integrity or transparency: I strongly believe that there is no webmaster/company in this scene who works with the transparency level we do. This statement of yours just proves to me that this is an emotion-based post, not one built on facts. This is actually a part of my business secret, but if you ask anyone who we work with: they will most likely highlight the total transparency in the top 3 fun facts. This is your second comment on my integrity, and it makes me quite upset: you base such a strong offend on a Wrongly Supposed Very Bad Thing [me attacking ATS because I know Patrick can't reply]. I am open for [and actually welcome] criticism, as it is something that can make me and my business better and I am a person with integrity.


1. and 2. : I believe these are refuted.

3. I have no problem posting someone else's work and shitting on it, if I believe they deserve to be confronted with the shit they made.

4.: This is untrue, and I kindly ask you to name/show me a single company who I rejected while they were matching all the basic conditions [need to run a paysite with an affiliate program]. Because of my contract with GotPorn I need you to withdraw this statement or prove it, ASAP. I never ever considered any decisions based on if they are using our service or not. This assumption makes my heart bleed. :(

Jel, you know my English is not native, I need to admit I don't understand this part at all :S

May 3 2018? Remember?

Man.. I saw the listings suddenly change on GP for weeks and weeks after you started running it. That was a very lucky algo during that period.

I don't post what others' tell me in confidence, so as I can't prove it, I'll withdraw that.


Basically: when you start throwing shit around because of your emotions, some of that shit will fly around and end up on yourself. I know this for a fact, because I also posted while emotional, instead of waiting until I was able to post rationally, and got some shit on myself in the process :winkwink:


......

I disagree with most of your post but I'm not here to fight other people's battles for them, except to publicly restate: problem? deal with the sponsor, find out of the sponsor is ok with it or not. Sponsor is not ok? Turns out affiliate was cheating the sponsor? Call the affiliate out after that.

If I had a method that a sponsor was fine with (and no sponsor has yet said they are *not* fine with what you don't like personally), and some other guy was upset because I was 'taking money from' him (plenty of webmasters 'take money' from me and don't do as *I* would prefer - that's my tough shit, tbh), then started a thread, bumped it a few times, and posted my method & examples in it - I would be pissed as fuck. And that's a *huge* understatement.

I do 100% apologise for the personal insults - my emotions got the better of me there for sure, and as usual, I cringe when I look back at them once I've calmed down.

I'm out of this thread, it goes where it goes :thumbsup

[You are working for ATS - just for others to know - despite the lack of a company sig]

Ahh, I found it. You approached me as a camsoda affiliate, to open a channel with rebranded webcam content.

I tried to contact them and ask for the same content directly - got no reply.

Look, I know that such content is problematic. Webcam models ask for content removals, this is not the preferred content. Actually, since we are handling the Partner Section there was no cam company approved.

If you feel that I rejected you running this channel for no reason - get in touch with me.

But again: GotPorn's Content Partner system is designed for working with the studios directly [as MOST such programs, we both know..] and not for boarding affiliates and providing them space.

<3 :2 cents: :pimp :thumbsup

Just two things and I am out to:
-Not working for ATS at all. Just to be clear.
-You were approached on behalf of camsoda, and not as affiliates, there was no rebranding at all and consent from the models. If you were not running a personal vendetta ( I quote: "Don't misunderstand me: This Is Personal. " ) you might have noticed this.

Take care.

Sharon, if you don't work for ATS [not employed by them], how do you know these things?

I reserve the right to work with studios/paysites directly. Especially if its cam content. You can't design a simple banner, how could you help me with the (guaranteed) DMCA issues? It is a higher level decision here to keep away from cam content, and yes, I did nothing to overrule this for you.

What I did for the BBO/AF content you consider vendetta as well?

I won't deny that providing you benefits is not something I like to do.

I told you that I will need to talk with CamSoda before I do anything, and still haven't heard from them.

Why should I work with 3rd party if I can get the same thing directly? What value are you adding to this project?

But then again this is exactly the service you offer as well right?

Anyways, this whole thread leaves a bit of a bad taste.

Our services are Absolutely Not the Same, I Do Protest against this comment.
All we do is human work, I employ really existing human beings as video editors. There are actually 4 of them in my office, and there are three external editors for projects of smaller significance, they invoice me every month for their work.

The title-writing, the tagging, the upload process, the custom-thumb cutting, all the "after upload" work is completely done by humans. And on top of this: we are stats freaks and administrate everything. All the work we do for all our partners is 100% transparent - all my partners can confirm this. :pimp :2 cents:

None of the above is true for their service.

So HELL NO, we are completely different. :2 cents:



I hear you about the bad taste. Believe me: this is embarrassing to me too, because of the bad timing: I was not aware of the health issues of Patrick.

I know that Patrick and Kees are reputable and beloved members of this community, and it is always weird to hear an honest and strong opinion stating that despite they are nice people, the work they do is horrible.

And if the guy who finally dares to stand up against them has questionable/"rude boy" style, while the work is admittedly in a different league: it causes a contradictory situation.

Now the bad taste is even worse, sorry.