Jewish propaganda agains Poland
 

Hey Guys,
Last 2 weeks are pretty loud here cuz Jewish started to spread propaganda against poles telling we are responsible for holocaust and we poles were murdering jews during ww2.
they want money from poland smth around 60 bilions of polish zloty or dollars (i don't know it's ridiculus enough).
I would love to see my govt to cut any relationship with izrael untill they would apologize but i don't think it would happend.
Company against poland is run on facebook, youtube and other sites and it's gathering lot's of attention.

So i got question for you guys.
Do you really believe that poles were holocausting jews and murdering them? :pimp
cuz lots of ppl starts to believe it, and you know - if some1 will tell story many times it becomes truth.

1. No, Jewish Do not start. Your fucking stupid Polish government start. he invented a foolish law, through his stupid politicians.
2. Not Jews do not want 60 80 90 or 120 billion dollars - because they will not get them, the war claims are outdated and this law has nothing to do with it
3. holocaust is a German job. in the holocaust, governments of many European countries participated, which is true and can be checked.

For example:
Spain:
General Franco gave list of Spanish Jews to Nazis
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ish-jews-nazis
France:
BBC - History - World Wars: The Vichy Policy on Jewish Deportation
Hungary, Norway,Italy etc. all these countries participated in the Holocaust.

The only countries that did not participate in the Holocaust are
- Poland
- Denmark (sent all Jews to neutral Sweden around 1943)
- Great Britain (but she was not taken by the hitler) - BUT Jews from Jersay were sent to camps. (Channel Islands was under a german occupation and no one blames Britons for participation in the Holocaust).
- Switzerland and Sweden (they were neutral)
- Ireland.
ALL Other European countries, apart from those mentioned, participated in the killing of Jews (And not only Jews, because gypsies and other ethnic groups also died in Auschwitz.)

And finally. Concentration camp Auschwitz.
camp director: Rudolf Hoess - born Baden-Baden: Germany Father: German: Mother: German.

Entrance to the Auschwitz concentration camp: "Arbeit Macht Frei"
guess what language are the words "Arbeit Macht Frei" - google translate can help you.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3vCl44GISzA/hqdefault.jpg

Lots of people died in WW2

Why is it a stupid law, if you yourself claim that Poland did not participate in holocaust? If holocaust denial and revisionism is illegal in most European countries, why should it be legal to claim Poland is responsible for the holocaust?

Because I'm Polish and I know this stupid law, so I do not fuck with it.

If anyone in Portugal, Peru or Belize, writes that Poles murdered Jews, you can not go to court because of the right to operate on the territory of Poland, Polish law operates in Poland and only in Poland. Same like a fucking Spanish works in Spain but not in Poland, Nigerian works in Nigeria but does not work in Australia. and more more more.

every country has its speed limits. and yes this is a law, and operate only on the territory of the country.

Just like a Pole who goes to the Netherlands and smoke marichuane, he will not go to jail for it in Poland. COS POLISH LAW WORKS ON THE TERRITORY OF POLAND.

For the same reason fat german pedos go to philippines and have sex with 13 years old kids. where is the full legal to have sex in this age but not in the germany!

And to be clear, you can believe what you want. In a flat earth, lizards from space. Probably more people think that the earth is flat than that the Poles did the Holocaust.

Of course - however if any one of those people from the ruterman video want to visit auschwitz, they can be arrested. If any journalist says it and ends up having to go to poland, they can be arrested, and if some politician says it and then has to visit poland, he can be arrested. People that use the term are unwelcome in the country. There was something like 270 instances where ministry of foreign affairs had to intervene in 2017 not because of people saying this in private conversation, but because of this being written publically by newspapers, or said by politicians. If people don't want to get arrested, all they have to do is not use the term and say German death camps instead.

This is besides the point though. They know it's useless abroad, but I don't think that was the point. look how loud the topic has gotten? Everyone knows now that they weren't polish death camps...

It's strange that you are writing this. The politicians of the ruling party (themselves say) that this act does not work. I do not believe that you know better than them :)

can be! can be! not a will be. You see that it is stupid! Poland is in the Schengen area. actually everyone can come to Poland and have this law in deep ass.

there are 8 billion in the world and 270 of them in 2017 have made mistakes.
Because of course, they apologized for that.

you say : 270 times. More people now in all Texas or all Utah are just paying for gasoline right now, but don't have money in the wallet!
270 people just now right now 270 people in the whole new york drink coffee decaff but they order normal coffe !. 270 times. minute by minute. 365 days a year.
270 people right now do ................... and I say more and more!
and 270 people around the world were wrong about the "polish holocaust" 270 people from 8 billion in 200 countries around all the fucking world.
The Polish government invented the law against 270 people around the world
Please, read yourself - I know, you know, and millions of people in the world know. That sucks.

Did anyone think different way a year ago?
Even Obama must have apologized.
and the head of the FBI lost his job

Poles have a stupid government. The Poles invented a stupid law.
And most Poles are idiots.
Poland is not the number one.

I'm not taking sides here but we do have lizards from space in secret USA government.

Just saying.

:2 cents:

polish idiot calls other poles idiots

what an idiotic situation :)

Not 270 people said it out of 8 billion, but 270 politicans/journalists/etc. I'm sure millions have said it in private conversations, but that doesn't matter - it matters when Obama says it, it matters when it's written on some major news site, etc. If people keep saying it, in 10 years it will turn out that Hitler had Polish roots, and in 20 years it will turn out he was actually born in Katowice instead of Austria :1orglaugh

This law, yes, is probably pointless, but it is fair in a certain sense. If public holocaust denial is illegal in most countries in Europe (in order to "protect the jews" from it being downplayed), then this should be too (in order to "protect the poles" from suggesting they were responsible).

indeed:2 cents:

270 people! politician is human, journalist is human! 270 people, do you understand?
the article in the newspaper is written by a man, not 200 or 300 people, but a man who signs his name and surname. and accepted by the editor who takes responsibility for it.



Obama made an idiot of himself. all newspapers in the USA were laughing at him.
Is there anything more embarrassing for the president?

I do not have to wait 10 years to tell you that you are moron.
Germany was NEVER silent about the fact that Hitler was the creator of the Holocaust. They never lied about his guilt and never erased it.
Only such Polish idiots as you. they invent a story about Hitler and Polish roots.
Look at yourself - you're tell new history as a moron - hitler with Polish roots. Smash your head in the wall.

For over 70 years since the war, the Germans have never changed the history of the Holocaust and its participation in it. only such polish fools as you do now.
never the German government blamed Poland for it - only such fools as you are inventing such histories.

I see that there is a national dream in Poland to tell the world that Hitler was a Polish guy.

- The Germans have spoken since 1945. - Germans, not Poles are responsible for the holocaust.
- Jews from 1945 say. - Germany, not Poles are responsible for the holocaust.

some Pole in 2018 say. in next 20 years hitler will have Polish roots.
this some Pole is you, and you're a moron.
One more thing.
I met maybe 500-1000 Germans, I am in Germany every year.
unfortunately, I never met a German guy who said that the hitler has Polish roots or Poles are responsible for the holocaust.
but I met a few Poles who dream about Hitler being a Polish citizen.

Clean your head! less nonsense from the ruling party

Learn to read because that is not at all what i said.:thumbsup

Russia warns Poland not to touch Soviet WW2 memorials
Russia warns Poland not to touch Soviet WW2 memorials - BBC News

German and Russian soldier in a friendly handshake during World War II.



https://i2.wp.com/historiek.net/wp-c...50%2C480&ssl=1

There was nothing more nasty and horrible than the agreement between Hitler, the German leader and Stalin, the leader of Russia. The alliance that led to World War II.

i remember in 1989 there was small monument with red star established as memory of red army soldiers who died in ww2, it was from many years in small green square in small city of Lesko in south-east Poland and it was there for many years so in 1989 or 1990 someone broke down star and stole it and smashed few eggs into monument.

i do not like it. it's history, those soldiers died here while fighting german nazis ofc they do not have any choice cuz NKWD follows them but still they died fighting Adolf so monument should stay, not it's almost 20years passed and this monument would be smth interesting to see and even more interesting in next 40 years but no, some moron had to devastate it.

i understand feelings, many ppl sees red star as sign of oppression but again - it was about soldiers who died here nothing more, no politics. at least it's how i see it.

now about demands from soviets to not touch any monuments - i wonder if they would say that if we would have nuclear armaments? it's just show that we as country are less than shit for the rest of the world. no country should have such demands from other country it comes by free good will to keep any monument or not.

Poland occupied Western Belorussia and Western Ukraine during Russian Revolution 1917- stole from Russia this land and build slavery and segregation over there.
And it does not stop Poland in 1938.

Why did Poland invade Czechoslovakia in 1938? And how did the Allies react?
https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Poland...e-Allies-react

BEFORE HITLER INVADED POLAND -- POLAND INVADED CZECHOSLOVAKIA!
Poland is often called the first victim of World War II -- invaded and divided by Hitler and Stalin in 1939. Almost forgotten is the startling fact that, only months before before Hitler invaded Poland, Poland joined Hitler in dismembering Czechoslovakia!

According to the Encyclopedia, in May of 1938, Hitler mobilized his military to annex Czechoslovakia's German-speaking Sudetenland -- but halted when Britain, France, and Stalin's Soviet Union threatened war if he did so. Hitler backed down, but he wouldn't let the matter rest.

On September 15, British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain visited Hitler to discuss a "peaceful solution" to the Sudetenland question. In a followup meeting on September 22, Chamberlain agreed to allow Hitler to annex the Sudeten region.

But Hitler wasn't satisfied! He wanted German troops to enter the Sudetenland at once -- something Chamberlain refused to allow. With war looking imminent, on September 23, the Czechoslovakian military mobilized to defend against Nazi Germany.

Poland then made its move.

On September 27, seeing that Czechoslovakia was in dire straits with Nazi troops readying to invade, Poland issued an ultimatum, demanding that Czechoslovakia hand over its Tesin (Teschen) district.

Two days later, on September 29, France, Britain, Germany, and Italy signed the Munich Agreement. It allowed Hitler to have the Sudetenland in exchange for him agreeing to "guarantee" Czechoslovakia's borders -- but only after Poland and Hungary had taken their shares!

Britain and France not only sold out Czechoslovakia to Hitler -- but to Poland and Hungary too!
Before Hilter Invaded Poland, Poland Invaded Czechoslovakia

'Polish policy led to the disaster in September 1939, because during the 1930s Poland repeatedly blocked the formation of a coalition against Hitler's Germany'
World War II: Russia accuses Poland of starting the global conflict | The Independent

>the German leader and Stalin, the leader of Russia. The alliance
It was not "alliance" it was Non-aggression Pact. USSR and Hitler make proxy war in Spanish Civil War since 1936.

The Spanish Civil War had large numbers of non-Spanish citizens participating in combat and advisory positions. The governments of Germany, Italy?and to a lesser extent Portugal?contributed money, munitions, manpower and support to Nationalist forces led by Francisco Franco. The government of the Soviet Union, and to a lesser extent France and Mexico, likewise aided the Republicans (Loyalists) of the Second Spanish Republic. The aid came even after all the European powers had signed a Non-Intervention Agreement in 1936. While individual sympathy for the plight of the Spanish Republic was widespread in the liberal democracies, pacifism and the fear of another world war prevented them from selling or giving arms. The Nationalist pleas meanwhile were answered within days by Hitler and Mussolini.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...nish_Civil_War

Holocaust scholar questioned on claim Poles killed more Jews than Germans in war
Princeton professor Jan Tomasz Gross says prosecutors in Poland asked for information to back up his assertion in 2015 article
A Polish prosecutor has questioned a Polish-American scholar, Jan Tomasz Gross, to determine if he committed the crime of publicly insulting the nation with a statement on Polish violence against Jews during the second world war.
?I told him straight that I was not trying to insult the Polish nation. I was trying to raise awareness about the problem of refugees in Europe,? he said. ?I am just telling the truth and the truth sometimes has a shocking effect on people who are not aware of what the truth is.?

Jacek Leociak, a historian with the Polish Center for Holocaust Research, said it was difficult to establish exactly how many Jews were killed by Poles during the war but that the number was significant. He said Gross?s comparison could be correct if speaking about Germans killed by Polish underground forces in occupied Poland, and not the Polish army fighting on the western and eastern fronts.

?The claim that Poles killed more Jews than Germans could be really right ? and this is shocking news for the traditional thinking about Polish heroism during the war,? Leociak said. He said Gross?s comparison had merit because it ?reveals this dimension of the Polish war experience which was always covered, hidden and suppressed?.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...germans-in-war

The truth sometimes has a shocking effect on people (c) Jan Tomasz Gross, scholar

The Holocaust is a religion, intent on replacing Christianity. Poland is a Holocaust denier simply by remaining Catholic.

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my understanding is that the German insurance industries were going broke paying the life insurance benefits on the all the dead Jews, so the ins guys forced the government to move the camps out of Germany.

this way the ins guys would just stamp the life ins policy with 'immigrated' and void the policy.

the polish army attacked tanks with cavalry, mass respect. even rochard would respect that. - Polish women are beautiful and so are Jewish woman. if I had to chose I would pick Poland though... fuck the desert... :2 cents:

interesting theory, for the moment i thought i read wehateporn thread :D
Germans are still paying, you sure? i thought it's done years ago.

I'm not sure of your generation, however each generation has it's own music and it's own outrage. my generation was south asia war, never sparked any outrage in me at all. I have spoken personal with 3 former POW's, many vets and many vets that are no fucked up behind the war. you know? just guys did their job, didn't care for it at all, but did their jobs. everyone of them thinks Jane Fonda should be in prison.

and I've spoken first hand with many of the 'boat people' for instance the first thing the NVC when the US left was close all the business and take the money from the banks. the woman I spoke with was raped as were her daughters by pirates after killing her husband. I wish some of these guys here at GFY had a dose of reality once in a while.

as a kid I had access to a great library and at 10, I stated reading and studding. philosophy, religions, history and I have continued this study for the last 50 years. if you intend to research Nazi business relationships look at Fanta/coca cola and IBM for a start. I have come across many references to aspects of the relations in passing but have not researched any of them. I can tell you one thing though, reading about the holocaust as a kid made me hate god. It took a long time to get over that. so I know that the god deniers are hurt inside someplace and can't get out... such a shame.

wehateporn goes on about stuff sure, that don't mean some of the stuff isn't true? anyways I'm more focused on people and patterns of groups and than the behaviors of an individual like I was some fucking physiatrist.. :winkwink:

last 2 years have been studying Paleolithic, Neolithic and the ancients... there are so many parallels with this trump bullshit in history, they all end badly. every one of them. human life is not fair and equal value for a political doctrine. :2 cents:

can you tell few parallels examples?

hijacking my topic here a bit:
out of curiosity, if you could pick up age (any) to live in for short period (one year) and other for life period, what would you choose?
reason i'm asking cuz i'm curious what someone with some deeper knowledge would pick and you just the man.
i'm myself are in love in ancient rome, read some stuff and i'm aware of it's flows but still i would love to spend some time there.

this comes to mid pretty quick, political activist using a sporting event. every civilizations will have examples. when this stuff happens the innocents and vulnerable are always killed in large numbers. the instigators usually get away. like you think Obama would be prosecuted for a death in a race riot?

by modern standards very few would enjoy living in the past. 1915 my grandma rode in a covered wagon for 2 days to go 30 miles. now I am sending directions to my car from my office. any positive emotional experience you wish from the past can had right now, but better.

my thought is that today humanity has more opportunity for betterment and helping others then at any other time in history. this is why I'm sending emails about protecting the schools, with gun debates on moratorium for 6 months. I believe one man can make a difference. you?

interesting story this Nika riots, didn't know this but i do not like byzantine empire to much i was always focused on early years rome at it's greatness and way to it.

we all can build better life literally for everyone on the planet, it's something what Jacque Fresco was trying to convince ppl to with his project venus - no matter how naive it was or accurate i think it's doeable with good will, which won't happend without civilization reset imo.

and yes, history is full of one man's making differences but usually not in peaceful way, sendign emails is noble hope it will work. i've also been thinking about schools and i thought that schools should be protected with armed ppl, just to scare off nutheads, not in Poland ofc and not atm cuz there is no threats here but in US for sure.

yeah I hope it works as well, I wish others would help. they would rather grandstand for pussy :2 cents:

Oh yeah, Poland was so innocent.

Auschwitz come to mind? What about Treblinka?

Treblinka was build on Himmler's order by nazi germans, what about it baddog?

I guess we invited the nazis in to level warsaw to the ground? :thumbsup

best 2 minutes i've seen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZfnPM7LZws

They are inches from world war 3 in the middle east right now I wouldn't take it personally.