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karolinaboy 02-19-2018 01:52 PM
Live Cam Sites That Allow Recording to Promote Offer?
 
Anyone know of any live cam sites with a good UI layout that allow you to record the girls live and use that recording to promote their offer?

Post your affiliate link in this thread and I will sign up under you.

NickBaer 02-19-2018 02:46 PM
Can't imagine any that do. Tube sites proved years ago that they aren't "advertising" methods for monetizing clips... only promoting Piracy, and making porn "free" for consumers.

Perhaps a still image, that didn't give away money shots.

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22211561)
Can't imagine any that do. Tube sites proved years ago that they aren't "advertising" methods for monetizing clips... only promoting Piracy, and making porn "free" for consumers.

Perhaps a still image, that didn't give away money shots.
That's definitely not true. I'm already with one company that allow me to record the girls live and their UI layout looks good. Im just looking for more.

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 22211561)
Can't imagine any that do. Tube sites proved years ago that they aren't "advertising" methods for monetizing clips... only promoting Piracy, and making porn "free" for consumers.

Perhaps a still image, that didn't give away money shots.
And theirs plenty of live cam sites that show the money shot for FREE. I would know because I've seen it plenty of times.

magneto664 02-19-2018 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211563)
That's definitely not true. I'm already with one company that allow me to record the girls live
I do not know how you do it,
it goes straight out of copyright law,
if you are on the recording, you have the rights to them.
such a model can easily do DMCA
I have no idea how you came up with it.
Copyright from the beginning to the end
Rights to the image of a person.

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22211573)
I do not know how you do it,
it goes straight out of copyright law,
if you are on the recording, you have the rights to them.
such a model can easily do DMCA
I have no idea how you came up with it.
Copyright from the beginning to the end
Rights to the image of a person.
Simple.

I told the company what I had planned and they said no problem.

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22211573)
I do not know how you do it,
it goes straight out of copyright law,
if you are on the recording, you have the rights to them.
such a model can easily do DMCA
I have no idea how you came up with it.
Copyright from the beginning to the end
Rights to the image of a person.
I've filed paper for the copyright of works I created but how can a live video be copyrighted without actually doing paperwork to get it copyrighted because its live video? Theirs truly no way to copyright a video as it is being recorded live.

sarettah 02-19-2018 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211587)
I've filed paper for the copyright of works I created but how can a live video be copyrighted without actually doing paperwork to get it copyrighted because its live video? Theirs truly no way to copyright a video as it is being recorded live.
The creator automatically owns the copyright. They do not have to file anything.

https://www.stopfakes.gov/article?id...opyright-Claim

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registration is voluntary. Copyright protection exists from the moment the work is created (fixed in a tangible medium).
I would tread lightly on recording and uploading performances no matter what some one at the sponsor told you.

I have not heard of any cam site that actually allows an affiliate to do this.

If you search around you will find many stories about people losing their sites or at least their earnings over this exact issue, not to mention the constant stream of DMCA notices from cam girls that can occur.

Good Luck.

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karolinaboy 02-19-2018 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22211601)
The creator automatically owns the copyright. They do not have to file anything.

https://www.stopfakes.gov/article?id...opyright-Claim



I would tread lightly on recording and uploading performances no matter what some one at the sponsor told you.

I have not heard of any cam site that actually allows an affiliate to do this.

If you search around you will find many stories about people losing their sites or at least their earnings over this exact issue, not to mention the constant stream of DMCA notices from cam girls that can occur.

Good Luck.

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This is the poor-mans copyright which you are speaking of. If someone wants to take it to court it needs to be registered otherwise its just "he-say-she-say" and anyone can own the copyright.

Cam girls use sites like MANYCAMS.com which stream on multiple sites at once. Does that mean all of those sites own the copyright since they all had the live video at once? Nope, this is the poor-mans way which has no benefits.

magneto664 02-19-2018 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22211601)
The creator automatically owns the copyright. They do not have to file anything.

https://www.stopfakes.gov/article?id...opyright-Claim
So it is. here the law works the same as in any other media. radio or television, internet. from the beginning to the end the right to the image, copyright, owner's right. usa, europe or the rest of the world.

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22211601)
I would tread lightly on recording and uploading performances no matter what some one at the sponsor told you.
I would not trust such a sponsor.
Although I think I know how it will end.
He will generate traffic. the sponsor will close his account with DMCA - disable the account, redirect% money from "revshare"

Top cam brands will never allow such things. from one simple reason.
video recordings reduce earnings from live shows.
Why should someone pay the model when they see the video for free?

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22211619)
So it is. here the law works the same as in any other media. radio or television, internet. from the beginning to the end the right to the image, copyright, owner's right. usa, europe or the rest of the world.



I would not trust such a sponsor.
Although I think I know how it will end.
He will generate traffic. the sponsor will close his account with DMCA - disable the account, redirect% money from "revshare"

Top cam brands will never allow such things. from one simple reason.
video recordings reduce earnings from live shows.
Why should someone pay the model when they see the video for free?
You should answer that yourself. Why would Chaturbate request people to pay models but its totally free?

And I didn't ask a sponsor. I asked the company. Thanks though. :thumbsup

magneto664 02-19-2018 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211613)
This is the poor-mans copyright which you are speaking of.
I have a very bad news for you, You just deny the government side. in the .gov domain - no matter what you write, you're no smarter than lawyers, senators and politicians who make the law.

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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211613)
If someone wants to take it to court it needs to be registered otherwise its just "he-say-she-say" and anyone can own the copyright.
I apologize if you have such a vision "" he-say-she-say "" it will not work far.
Of course, no one will sue you, but he can fuck your domain and profits. from revshare.

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 03:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22211639)
I have a very bad news for you, You just deny the government side. in the .gov domain - no matter what you write, you're no smarter than lawyers, senators and politicians who make the law.



I apologize if you have such a vision "" he-say-she-say "" it will not work far.
Of course, no one will sue you, but he can fuck your domain and profits. from revshare.
I have attorneys I can speak too. Not really looking for any legal advice in this thread. Thanks again for the kind words.

magneto664 02-19-2018 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211629)
You should answer that yourself. Why would Chaturbate request people to pay models but its totally free?
I'm sorry, but you do not even know what you're writing about, and that's sad.

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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211629)
And I didn't ask a sponsor. I asked the company. Thanks though.
Ok, in that case it works!

And out of curiosity, what do you do if some cam model sued you for example 5 years from now. Will you erase the video from all websites, fileharing hosting?
Do you see how funny it is?

but no no, you are right :)

sarettah 02-19-2018 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211613)
Cam girls use sites like MANYCAMS.com which stream on multiple sites at once. Does that mean all of those sites own the copyright since they all had the live video at once? Nope, this is the poor-mans way which has no benefits.
No, that means the camgirl owns the copyright. She/he/they are the creator.

As I said, Good Luck.

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sarettah 02-19-2018 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211629)
And I didn't ask a sponsor. I asked the company. Thanks though. :thumbsup
The company and the sponsor are the same thing.

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karolinaboy 02-19-2018 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22211653)
No, that means the camgirl owns the copyright. She/he/they are the creator.

As I said, Good Luck.

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How would the camgirl own the rights if she gave up the rights by signing up to what ever multiple company's she signed up to?

sarettah 02-19-2018 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211659)
How would the camgirl own the rights if she gave up the rights by signing up to what ever multiple company's she signed up to?
You will find that in most of the cam companies terms that the cam performer does NOT give up their rights, or at least that is what I have seen.

They provide the sponsor with a license to use the content.

I think LiveJasmin takes ownership, not sure on that but most do not.

Chaturbate:

https://chaturbate.com/terms/

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We do not claim any ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, applications, or any other materials (collectively, the ?Materials?) that you transmit, submit, display or publish (?post?) on the Site or through or in connection with the Service. After posting the Materials on the Site or through or in connection with the Service, you continue to retain any such rights that you may have in such Materials, subject to the license granted herein.
MyFreeCams:

https://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Terms_and_Conditions

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You retain all of your ownership rights in your submissions.
CamSoda:

https://www.camsoda.com/support/terms

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All images and content uploaded and/or streamed through the Platform are your own and you own all the necessary rights to comply with this Agreement and to distribute such images and content.
Camdough:

Live Sex Cams Hot Girls, Guys, Trannies from Around the World

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By submitting content and/or information to any "public area" on the Chathostess Network, such as forums, message centers and entering a video chat room You grant Chathostess Network the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right (including any moral rights) and license to use,
imlive (pussycash):

https://host.imlive.com/Disclaimersu...nericAdult.asp

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You represent to the Company that you possess all necessary intellectual property rights, interests and licenses including without limitation, copyrights, trademarks, service marks, music licensing rights and any and all other information and proprietary rights in connection with any such content and information.
Ifriends (clickcash):

https://www.ifriends.net/ifpage.dll?...tion_agreement

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4.1 You hereby warrant and agree that you possess all intellectual property rights, interests, and licenses necessary to enter into this Agreement. You may not post, make available, transmit, distribute, or reproduce any copyrighted material, trademarks, service marks, or other proprietary information of third parties on or through our Services without obtaining the prior written consent of the owner of such proprietary rights.
4.2 You hereby agree to grant us the rights to use any and all copyrights, trademarks, service marks, trade secrets, and all other proprietary rights in and to the Content you Produce on or through our Services, or any portion thereof, via an unlimited, perpetual, worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable, sub-licensable, transferable, exclusive license.

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22211699)
You will find that in most of the cam companies terms that the cam performer does NOT give up their rights, or at least that is what I have seen.

They provide the sponsor with a license to use the content.

I think LiveJasmin takes ownership, not sure on that but most do not.

Chaturbate:

https://chaturbate.com/terms/



MyFreeCams:

https://wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Terms_and_Conditions



CamSoda:

https://www.camsoda.com/support/terms



Camdough:

Live Sex Cams Hot Girls, Guys, Trannies from Around the World



imlive (pussycash):

https://host.imlive.com/Disclaimersu...nericAdult.asp



Ifriends (clickcash):

https://www.ifriends.net/ifpage.dll?...tion_agreement
Oh okay thanks.

But, Im just saying, their would definitely be a conflict if a cam girl signs up to multiple cam sites and the cam site own the rights, if the cam girl uses a site like ManyCams their would definitely be a problem.

sarettah 02-19-2018 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211705)
Oh okay thanks.

But, Im just saying, their would definitely be a conflict if a cam girl signs up to multiple cam sites and the cam site own the rights, if the cam girl uses a site like ManyCams their would definitely be a problem.
If one single cam site owns the rights then the performer is in violation of terms if they are showing on that particular site and other sites at the same time.

That pretty much says the performer owns the content if they are able to put it on multiple sites at the same time.

Anyway, you were asking about sites that allow recording and using that to promote and I know of none.

You say you found at least one.

I hope it works for you.

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bns666 02-19-2018 04:49 PM
how will you record the show on sites where you have to pay for shows?

karolinaboy 02-19-2018 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 22211737)
how will you record the show on sites where you have to pay for shows?
Please read the topic of this thread. I am confused in what you are trying to ask.

Brian mike 02-20-2018 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 22211737)
how will you record the show on sites where you have to pay for shows?
There is a guy on another Forum selling a script doing exactly that recording show and all that set up like a tube with hosting include for around $100 USD.
Dont want to promote that kind of shit but IT does exist :2 cents:

bns666 02-20-2018 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22211745)
Please read the topic of this thread. I am confused in what you are trying to ask.
how do you plan to get the recorded show(s)?

Zeiss 02-20-2018 06:52 AM
Nobody allows this. :)

j3rkules 02-20-2018 07:50 AM
Read the TOS of cam companies. I am pretty sure none of these big companies allow that.

lovebitch 02-20-2018 08:57 AM
Thats too much but may be girls pic to promote that specific girl ?

magneto664 02-20-2018 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lovebitch (Post 22212657)
Thats too much but may be girls pic to promote that specific girl ?
And what?
The girl finishes her job as a cam-girl. within 24 hours send DMCA, google fuck your website, and you can not even do anything because you had these photos and this DMCA does not include.
I see that here some people simply lack the brain. typical 2 + 2 = 4, where is your logic?

karolinaboy 02-20-2018 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 22212483)
Nobody allows this. :)
Oh really? Lol

karolinaboy 02-20-2018 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22212453)
There is a guy on another Forum selling a script doing exactly that recording show and all that set up like a tube with hosting include for around $100 USD.
Dont want to promote that kind of shit but IT does exist :2 cents:
That sounds illegal. I wasnt looking foe something illegal

Zeiss 02-21-2018 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22213387)
Oh really? Lol
Yes, really. At least the programs I work with, do not. And I have seen what happens to that kind of sites - videos removed or sites removed. :winkwink:

emmasexytime 02-23-2018 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by karolinaboy (Post 22213393)
That sounds illegal. I wasnt looking foe something illegal

So what is the site that allows you to do this?


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