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NatalieK 02-18-2018 07:35 PM

Ombudsman hits back at Spain for migrants treatment
 
While understanding these human beings need a home, it´s taking the piss with the amount coming over to Spain, already this year numbers are ridiculous, like 20000 migrants, illegals have entered Spain & yet, humanitarians & the ombudsman are slamming down on the way the illegals are treated, the reality of it is going to be disaster!


https://www.thelocal.es/20180216/spa...ombudsman-says

Italy was the highest figures with France & Spain coming in third and fourth last year, this year, from Africa to Spain, the numbers are increasing and Spain has the highest of figures.

https://www.iom.int/news/mediterrane...ths-reach-2839

Europe´s going to be a nightmare if they´re not stopped :Oh crap

LouiseLloyd 02-19-2018 02:47 AM

Gary, one minute you're slamming the British publics Brexit decision, next you're against migration in a country you're not a citizen of - slamming Europe???

What is your real stance, Gary, sorry Natalie?

pimpmaster9000 02-19-2018 03:12 AM

yes they are really exploiting the west :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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NatalieK 02-19-2018 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 22210723)
Gary, one minute you're slamming the British publics Brexit decision, next you're against migration in a country you're not a citizen of - slamming Europe???

What is your real stance, Gary, sorry Natalie?

We are about to become citizens of Spain, applying for residential & citizenship. So not sure what that has to do with migration and immigrants coming over to Spain...


how ever, Living just 5 miles from a beach 50 migrants ransacked a couple of months ago, I have every right to be involved and be against the slamming down on the Spanish government. I´m all for the EU, against Brexit, so i´m not understanding your perseverance to continue to be so negative towards me.

Obvious is obvious, you´re name´s probably Adam or something, if you were Louise, you´d most certainly not continue the shit facing you´re always doing...

I´m always available on skype to do face to face if you´d rather, but my username is GspotProductions... just saying :thumbsup

NatalieK 02-19-2018 04:24 AM

Let´s not forget, half the migrants are ISIS...


Knowing terrorists are coming in on boats just a few miles from me near Alicante, is quite worrying :2 cents:

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 04:45 AM

Cruci makes a very good point. Africa has enough natural resources to do a lot better. So why isn't it?

True the "Europeans" exploit it today by bribing a few at the top, now that number is being made worse by the Chinese and Russians paying a few top men to exploit their own people.

The level of corruption within Africas ruling elite is rife and they pass so little down to their own people.

Even slavery, some tribes were prepared to go into the continent to steal people to sell to the White Man instead of keeping them for themselves.

The rulers borrow billions, spend it on themselves, then pass the debt to the poorest. Then ask to borrow more.

Somebody should have warned them, be careful Africa what you wish for, you might just get it

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210833)
We are about to become citizens of Spain, applying for residential & citizenship. So not sure what that has to do with migration and immigrants coming over to Spain...


how ever, Living just 5 miles from a beach 50 migrants ransacked a couple of months ago, I have every right to be involved and be against the slamming down on the Spanish government. I´m all for the EU, against Brexit, so i´m not understanding your perseverance to continue to be so negative towards me.

Obvious is obvious, you´re name´s probably Adam or something, if you were Louise, you´d most certainly not continue the shit facing you´re always doing...

I´m always available on skype to do face to face if you´d rather, but my username is GspotProductions... just saying :thumbsup

The illegal migrant crisis highlights the EUs failings. The number one crisis now is this illegal migration and the EU has done nothing about it. You are now getting a taste of what I asked Cruci and he failed to answer.

Uncontrolled migration is a detriment to wealthy countries. As few EU migrants want to go to Spain. Spain is now getting a problem with Africans. Which must be better than what they have at home they are prepared to face death to get out.

pimpmaster9000 02-19-2018 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210843)
Cruci makes a very good point. Africa has enough natural resources to do a lot better. So why isn't it?

True the "Europeans" exploit it today by bribing a few at the top, now that number is being made worse by the Chinese and Russians paying a few top men to exploit their own people.

The level of corruption within Africas ruling elite is rife and they pass so little down to their own people.

Even slavery, some tribes were prepared to go into the continent to steal people to sell to the White Man instead of keeping them for themselves.

The rulers borrow billions, spend it on themselves, then pass the debt to the poorest. Then ask to borrow more.

Somebody should have warned them, be careful Africa what you wish for, you might just get it


colonialism never ended it just took on a new form...if a ruler comes that wants to fight the exploitation they just depose him and install a new puppet...africa is in debt slavery towards the west and africans have every moral right to go to the west and seek asylum from the abyss the west left them in...

the new instrument of oppression is money...you print the living shit out of it and then borrow air money to people you put in dire straits...in exchange they give you work and resources and you guys get fat and they get fucked...the west has robbed africa of centuries of wealth accumulation...


as for your bullshit argument that blacks sold blacks in to slavery, give me enough power and I will make brits sell brits...its only a matter of chopping the heads off the first couple of people who say no, until the ones who want to survive do what ever the fuck I want...

LouiseLloyd 02-19-2018 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210833)
Obvious is obvious, you´re name´s probably Adam or something, if you were Louise, you´d most certainly not continue the shit facing you´re always doing...

Nice deflection...

I can assure you, whilst I possibly reside in the same city as DVT, I am extremely offended that you find any similarity between mine and his posting styles, which is more than can be said for yourself, using the wrong apostrophe and overuse of ampersand, the identical writing style since Gary posted, it's freak use of punctuation like that, that almost certainly proves that it's Gary posting, not to mention the fact that on numerous occasions whilst Nat is camming on Adultwork, you're posting here at the same time.

Want to get started on "Obvious is obvious"!

Get back to pimping Gary!

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22210865)
colonialism never ended it just took on a new form...if a ruler comes that wants to fight the exploitation they just depose him and install a new puppet...africa is in debt slavery towards the west and africans have every moral right to go to the west and seek asylum from the abyss the west left them in...

the new instrument of oppression is money...you print the living shit out of it and then borrow air money to people you put in dire straits...in exchange they give you work and resources and you guys get fat and they get fucked...the west has robbed africa of centuries of wealth accumulation...

Yes I agree. What is it about Africans that they care so little for their own people?


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as for your bullshit argument that blacks sold blacks in to slavery, give me enough power and I will make brits sell brits...its only a matter of chopping the heads off the first couple of people who say no, until the ones who want to survive do what ever the fuck I want...
chiopping off heads is illegal, you must be thinking of Muslim countries where it happens today.

Yes given enough money there are people who will deal in slavery. Whereas all it took Africans back in the day was a little money as slavery was a way of life then for Africans. europeans just provided a bigger market for the African and Arab slave trade.

JuicyBunny 02-19-2018 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22210865)
colonialism never ended it just took on a new form...if a ruler comes that wants to fight the exploitation they just depose him and install a new puppet...africa is in debt slavery towards the west and africans have every moral right to go to the west and seek asylum from the abyss the west left them in...

the new instrument of oppression is money...you print the living shit out of it and then borrow air money to people you put in dire straits...in exchange they give you work and resources and you guys get fat and they get fucked...the west has robbed africa of centuries of wealth accumulation...


as for your bullshit argument that blacks sold blacks in to slavery, give me enough power and I will make brits sell brits...its only a matter of chopping the heads off the first couple of people who say no, until the ones who want to survive do what ever the fuck I want...

You might wish to read "Serpent & the Rainbow" by Wade Davis who at the time was an Ethno-Botanist at Harvard. Its a great book about the forced migrations of Africans to places like Haiti. I read it as I have an on-going interest in Voudoun and the use of natural farma.

Slavery was an improvement, a horrific one at that, after what some African Kings did before. Not always out of cruelty but out of necessity from their point of view.

Paul Markham 02-19-2018 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 22210929)
You might wish to read "Serpent & the Rainbow" by Wade Davis who at the time was an Ethno-Botanist at Harvard. Its a great book about the forced migrations of Africans to places like Haiti. I read it as I have an on-going interest in Voudoun and the use of natural farma.

Slavery was an improvement, a horrific one at that, after what some African Kings did before. Not always out of cruelty but out of necessity from their point of view.

To hear Cruci talk one would think Africa's problems started with the Whiteman going there. Far from it. Africa was a mix of tribes that regularly were raiding each other or at war. The Zulu Empire wasn't formed by cooperation. The Pigmy tribes are still today persecuted.

https://eshowe.com/notable-zulu-leaders/

https://answersafrica.com/african-kings.html

https://www.culturalsurvival.org/new...frican-pygmies

The Pygmy Genocide | 10 Little-Known Horrific Acts of Genocide | Martian Herald

Europe had the benefit of large countries no longer held back by tribal differences. Allowing it to rule the world. Africa still suffers from the same problems it suffered before the Whiteman discovered it.

pimpmaster9000 02-19-2018 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210913)
Yes I agree. What is it about Africans that they care so little for their own people?

nobody cares about anybody...exploitation is the name of the game...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210913)
chiopping off heads is illegal, you must be thinking of Muslim countries where it happens today.

Yes given enough money there are people who will deal in slavery. Whereas all it took Africans back in the day was a little money as slavery was a way of life then for Africans. europeans just provided a bigger market for the African and Arab slave trade.

no I am thinking about western countries and what they did...if production quotas were not met the west would chop heads of...whether it is illegal or not today is just a desperate attempt at changing the topic...give me enough power and I will make anybody sell anybody...its just a matter of enough heads being chopped off...



Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210913)
Far from it. Africa was a mix of tribes that regularly were raiding each other or at war.

everybody was at war with everybody...whites with whites...yellows with yellows...blacks with blacks...mix with mix...

cherry picking just one part of history to suit your argument is no argument at all...brits for example invaded absolutely everybody...

Manfap 02-19-2018 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 22210897)
I possibly reside in the same city as DVT!

my condolences.

NatalieK 02-19-2018 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22210843)
Cruci makes a very good point. Africa has enough natural resources to do a lot better. So why isn't it?

Absolutely agreeing with you! Even a shit load of solar panels in a bare space of Africa could power this whole planet, but then, Africa would become the richest country, it´s all about the money and power :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 22210897)
not to mention the fact that on numerous occasions whilst Nat is camming on Adultwork, you're posting here at the same time.

Want to get started on "Obvious is obvious"!

Get back to pimping Gary!

I´m online cam, yes, and here, yes...

& if you check, i´m only on private, all day, but here when not in the room. Your comment is as meaningless as Gary pimping me :winkwink:

You´re not Louise, you´re a troll, a secondary account :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 22211293)
my condolences.

:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 02-19-2018 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210447)
While understanding these human beings need a home, it´s taking the piss with the amount coming over to Spain, already this year numbers are ridiculous, like 20000 migrants, illegals have entered Spain & yet, humanitarians & the ombudsman are slamming down on the way the illegals are treated, the reality of it is going to be disaster!


https://www.thelocal.es/20180216/spa...ombudsman-says

Italy was the highest figures with France & Spain coming in third and fourth last year, this year, from Africa to Spain, the numbers are increasing and Spain has the highest of figures.

https://www.iom.int/news/mediterrane...ths-reach-2839

Europe´s going to be a nightmare if they´re not stopped :Oh crap

think of them as colonist :2 cents:

DraX 02-19-2018 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210447)
While understanding these human beings need a home, it´s taking the piss with the amount coming over to Spain, already this year numbers are ridiculous, like 20000 migrants, illegals have entered Spain & yet, humanitarians & the ombudsman are slamming down on the way the illegals are treated, the reality of it is going to be disaster!


https://www.thelocal.es/20180216/spa...ombudsman-says

Italy was the highest figures with France & Spain coming in third and fourth last year, this year, from Africa to Spain, the numbers are increasing and Spain has the highest of figures.

https://www.iom.int/news/mediterrane...ths-reach-2839

Europe´s going to be a nightmare if they´re not stopped :Oh crap

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210833)
We are about to become citizens of Spain, applying for residential & citizenship. So not sure what that has to do with migration and immigrants coming over to Spain...


how ever, Living just 5 miles from a beach 50 migrants ransacked a couple of months ago, I have every right to be involved and be against the slamming down on the Spanish government. I´m all for the EU, against Brexit, so i´m not understanding your perseverance to continue to be so negative towards me.

Obvious is obvious, you´re name´s probably Adam or something, if you were Louise, you´d most certainly not continue the shit facing you´re always doing...

I´m always available on skype to do face to face if you´d rather, but my username is GspotProductions... just saying :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210837)
Let´s not forget, half the migrants are ISIS...


Knowing terrorists are coming in on boats just a few miles from me near Alicante, is quite worrying :2 cents:

Gspot, stop being so political correct and naive. The day you start showing some criticism against EU and the complete lack of leadership by establishment you can start to be worried. Until then I hope Spain continues getting flooded by immigrants, especially from the key countries in north africa and middle east. The same all you liberals continue to defend.

Quote:

While understanding these human beings need a home
Is like saying I'm not a racist but...

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Europe´s going to be a nightmare if they´re not stopped :Oh crap
Pure comedy :1orglaugh

Now I'm gonna stir some shit with your homie, Thommy, another clueless individual...:2 cents:

oppoten 02-19-2018 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22210447)
Europe´s going to be a nightmare if they´re not stopped :Oh crap

https://i.imgur.com/2fGS53r.jpg

oppoten 02-19-2018 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22210865)
colonialism never ended it just took on a new form...

https://i.imgur.com/a30OQB5.jpg

Empire of Dust

DraX 02-19-2018 08:07 PM

GSPOT

Start consider moving back to England :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 02-19-2018 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22210745)
yes they are really exploiting the west :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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it's these type of cartoons that put Stalin on the cover of time magazine :thumbsup

OneHungLo 02-19-2018 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22210745)
yes they are really exploiting the west :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...8011ac4d05.jpg

Africans had Africa for 100k+ years and didn't have the brains to utilize any of their own resources. Boohoo...big bad whitey is such a meanie :1orglaugh

Here's a nice lil tidbit for your evil whitey narrative - Europeans and North Americans ( aka whitey) are responsible for 97 percent of scientific accomplishment :thumbsup

NatalieK 02-19-2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22211899)
Until then I hope Spain continues getting flooded by immigrants

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22211983)
GSPOT

Start consider moving back to England :1orglaugh

they´re on their way through to the UK :disgust :helpme

Although, no matter who´s in Spain, I´ll stay here where the sun shines 330 days of the year, thank you :thumbsup

oppoten 02-19-2018 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 22210897)
using the wrong apostrophe and overuse of ampersand

To the foreign and uninitiated...all people from Leeds talk like this.

That's why DVT's spelling was so bad. He was too focused on apostrophes and ampersands.

pimpmaster9000 02-20-2018 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22212069)
Africans had Africa for 100k+ years and didn't have the brains to utilize any of their own resources. Boohoo...big bad whitey is such a meanie :1orglaugh

Here's a nice lil tidbit for your evil whitey narrative - Europeans and North Americans ( aka whitey) are responsible for 97 percent of scientific accomplishment :thumbsup

well yes they were colonies for centuries and then they were put in debt slavery with puppet governments installed...what did you expect a renaissance of science and culture? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

while they were forced to slave for whitey, whitey went to school and did science...your claim is the equivalent of saying "drug dealers buy more rolex-es than normal hard working people so drug dealers must be superior" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 02-20-2018 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22211665)
Absolutely agreeing with you! Even a shit load of solar panels in a bare space of Africa could power this whole planet, but then, Africa would become the richest country, it´s all about the money and power :(

Have you factored in the price of guarding the solar panels? :1orglaugh

America deserts would be a far better place. Not a shithole that can't even protect its own wildlife.

Paul Markham 02-20-2018 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22211075)
nobody cares about anybody...exploitation is the name of the game...

So why do you complain about it when a superior country does it.




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no I am thinking about western countries and what they did...if production quotas were not met the west would chop heads of...whether it is illegal or not today is just a desperate attempt at changing the topic...give me enough power and I will make anybody sell anybody...its just a matter of enough heads being chopped off...
Back in the day vs today.



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everybody was at war with everybody...whites with whites...yellows with yellows...blacks with blacks...mix with mix...

cherry picking just one part of history to suit your argument is no argument at all...brits for example invaded absolutely everybody...
I don't talk about history, I talking about today.

pimpmaster9000 02-20-2018 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22212355)
So why do you complain about it when a superior country does it.

Back in the day vs today.

I don't talk about history, I talking about today.

you travel back and forth through time when it suits your arguments LOL...

you cherry pick history but when I give you the full historic picture you say "I dont talk about history" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

africa to this day is in slavery to the west...only today it is done by means of crippling debt because you left them in such dire straits that they had to borrow from their ex-oppressors...

the pinnacle of comedy is that africa, after centuries of western exploitation, owes money to the west :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I know you understand :thumbsup but I understand that you will pretend that you do not :thumbsup

NatalieK 02-20-2018 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22212353)
Have you factored in the price of guarding the solar panels? :1orglaugh

America deserts would be a far better place. Not a shithole that can't even protect its own wildlife.

https://www.google.es/maps/place/Bor....9049988?hl=en

A place 500mile Sq. an area so huge, with nothing but dessert, the area is also 40 degrees in the day every day 24/7, no where on earth is the same...

You cannot find that kind of temp, nor with nothing in. Africa is huge. Oh, and Portugal are running on solar now, it should be the direction Africa take, it would be feeding the world with natural electricity & make billions every hour :thumbsup

DraX 02-20-2018 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 22212097)
they´re on their way through to the UK :disgust :helpme

Although, no matter who´s in Spain, I´ll stay here where the sun shines 330 days of the year, thank you :thumbsup

Yea no big deal having terrorists in your own backyard, they only passing by. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Knowing terrorists are coming in on boats just a few miles from me near Alicante, is quite worrying
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Europe´s going to be a nightmare if they´re not stopped
Well as long as you have sun 330 days per year, that'll show them. :1orglaugh

You're fucking hilarious gspot, I'm ROFL..:2 cents:


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