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Bladewire 02-16-2018 10:56 AM

BREAKING! Mueller indicts 13 Russians as part of Russian bot ring
 
Drip... Drip... Drip...

They steal identities and pose as Americans online. Imagine that.

"An announcement from special counsel Robert Mueller's office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States. Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft."

Bladewire 02-16-2018 10:57 AM

Russians indicted in special counsel's probe for operations allegedly supporting Donald Trump in election

Bladewire 02-16-2018 10:59 AM

So they argue on both sides of an argument to sew discourse and further divide Americans

RedFred 02-16-2018 11:02 AM

Mineistaken is a Russian bot.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:05 AM

^^^ Truth

tony286 02-16-2018 11:08 AM

Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207195)
So they argue on both sides of an argument to sew discourse and further divide Americans

Okay, we all knew this Facebook told us that already. So what does this have to do with Trump? You really think the social media meddling was why Trump won? serious question

OneHungLo 02-16-2018 11:13 AM

Nobody cares.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22207215)
Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

Anyone on here defending the Russians is a peice of shit. GFY : the breeding ground of fake nics / bots. #ThanksAVN

MaDalton 02-16-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207223)
Okay, we all knew this Facebook told us that already.

there are plenty people that still claim this is untrue

this also became an obvious pattern recently: deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - and then claim that it was common knowledge all the time

onwebcam 02-16-2018 11:22 AM

lmao :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fake News Sways Elections, Right? Sorry, That’s Fake News
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/u...overblown.html

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207241)
this also became an obvious pattern recently: deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - and then claim that it was common knowledge all the time

Another pattern:

deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - then say it never mattered anyway.

onwebcam 02-16-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207249)
Another pattern:

deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - then say it never mattered anyway.

You're an idiot. Mueller has spent what, a year to uncover how some Russians make money online? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207241)
there are plenty people that still claim this is untrue

this also became an obvious pattern recently: deny, deny, deny - then say nothing for a while when proof is undeniable - and then claim that it was common knowledge all the time

I really just don't think this is the first and only time they have done these things. I feel like every country does this type of shit no? I also don't think they are the reason Trump won. I do think they are doing a good job of ramping up the divide in the US and having Trump in the big boy seat basically helped pour fuel on the fire and make it easier for them.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207255)
I really just don't think this is the first and only time they have done these things. I feel like every country does this type of shit no? I also don't think they are the reason Trump won. I do think they are doing a good job of ramping up the divide in the US and having Trump in the big boy seat basically helped pour fuel on the fire and make it easier for them.

Also the MSM is helping Russia so much.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207255)
I feel like every country does this type of shit no?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207257)
Also the MSM is helping Russia so much.

Some things a Russian would say

pornguy 02-16-2018 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22207215)
Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

Give that man a star for the day on his forehead

:1orglaugh

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207263)
Some things a Russian would say

??

Do you not think that the US does the same to Russia? Iran? Of course they do and why wouldn't they. Hillary helped fuel the Putin unrest when she was Sec of State which is why Putin has such a grudge against her. I am not blaming Hillary or any of that nonsense so don't jump on that wagon Bladewire.

The MSM talking non stop Russia Russia Russia is like them talking about school shooters and stuff. It just keeps fueling hate, rips the divide more and more open. You can see it here, every day its more Team Blue vs Team Red. No one talking about anything substantial that can move us further ahead, just pushing their own agendas..

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207279)
??

Do you not think that the US does the same to Russia? Iran? Of course they do and why wouldn't they. Hillary helped fuel the Putin unrest when she was Sec of State which is why Putin has such a grudge against her. I am not blaming Hillary or any of that nonsense so don't jump on that wagon Bladewire.

The MSM talking non stop Russia Russia Russia is like them talking about school shooters and stuff. It just keeps fueling hate, rips the divide more and more open. You can see it here, every day its more Team Blue vs Team Red. No one talking about anything substantial that can move us further ahead, just pushing their own agendas..

You're saying everything a Russian would say damn :1orglaugh

Putin doesn't like the media either

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207285)
You're saying everything a Russian would say damn :1orglaugh

Putin doesn't like the media either

What the hell is Russian about any of that? I am not defending Russia at all. Why wouldn't governments try to influence countries. It just makes sense, I want someone who is better for me in office. Hasn't that been going on for thousands of years?

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207301)
What the hell is Russian about any of that? I am not defending Russia at all. Why wouldn't governments try to influence countries. It just makes sense, I want someone who is better for me in office. Hasn't that been going on for thousands of years?

You are defending Russia.

You are also trying to minimalize what Russia did.

It's like after someone's husband gets murdered you would go up to them and say people get murdered every day it's no big deal. Thats not normal. What you are saying at this moment in time is not normal. Fucking idiot Russian defender

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22207215)
Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

Don't forget, another tactic, aside from defending & deflecting, is minimizing.

Acepimp 02-16-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207301)
What the hell is Russian about any of that? I am not defending Russia at all. Why wouldn't governments try to influence countries. It just makes sense, I want someone who is better for me in office. Hasn't that been going on for thousands of years?

BladeLiar doesn't speak logic or common sense. he believes everything Adam Schiff, Pelosi & Mad Maxine say. These scum bag politicians from California lie so much to cover their own crimes it's unreal, then people like BladeLiar believe their narrative = he believes the opposite of reality :2 cents:

:rasta

blackmonsters 02-16-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22207215)
Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22207323)
Bladewire doesn't speak logic or common sense. he believes everything Adam Schiff, Pelosi & Mad Maxine say. These scum bag politicians from California lie so much to cover their own crimes it's unreal, then people like BladeLiar believe their narrative = he believes the opposite of reality

^^^ Fake nic

He'll come in under another alt-righ nic momentarily

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207307)
You are defending Russia.

You are also trying to minimalize what rush did.

It's like after someone's husband gets murdered you would go up to them and say people get murdered every day it's no big deal. Fucking idiot Russian defender

I am not defending them. I am saying I am not shocked they do this, I figure everyone does.

It's more like Someone's husband goes around killing people for years and years and then finally someone kills them and they cry how it's not fair.

Rochard 02-16-2018 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22207215)
Since they arent here yet , I will fill in.

Hilary Hilary Hilary, fake news, fake news, fake news.

But the emails!

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207329)
It's more like Someone's husband goes around killing people for years and years and then finally someone kills them and they cry how it's not fair.

Yes , you minimize in defense of Russia. You don't like the media either. You don't like the FBI either. The FBI & media are the buffers American society has between us and a dictatorship.

Rochard 02-16-2018 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207195)
So they argue on both sides of an argument to sew discourse and further divide Americans

They are doing this right now with the gun control issue. Both sides. They are just fucking with us.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22207341)
They are doing this right now with the gun control issue. Both sides. They are just fucking with us.

Russia has funded the NRA.

The Trump-Russia-NRA Connection: Here?s What You Need to Know |
Rolling Stone

Sarn 02-16-2018 11:59 AM

>13 Russians

:1orglaugh
http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/picture/realadam/tin3.jpg

2MuchMark 02-16-2018 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22207201)
Mineistaken is a Russian bot.

So is Acepimp. At least, I hope he is.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207223)
You really think the social media meddling was why Trump won? serious question

It helped.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207227)
Nobody cares.

Correction: You don't care.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22207323)
BladeLiar doesn't speak logic or common sense. he believes everything Adam Schiff, Pelosi & Mad Maxine say. These scum bag politicians from California lie so much to cover their own crimes it's unreal, then people like BladeLiar believe their narrative = he believes the opposite of reality :2 cents:

:rasta

Change the subject! Pivot! Deflect! You're as predicable as a sunrise. Ace.

MaDalton 02-16-2018 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207255)
I really just don't think this is the first and only time they have done these things. I feel like every country does this type of shit no? I also don't think they are the reason Trump won. I do think they are doing a good job of ramping up the divide in the US and having Trump in the big boy seat basically helped pour fuel on the fire and make it easier for them.

I have said it here before: Hillary was not a good candidate but per se at least qualified

but what would you say: did stories about pizza connection and killed FBI agents help her?

Or maybe not?

Because even when the originators of those stories meanwhile posted that they made them up, people on this very board still repeat them as if they were true.

And if you take one step back and look at the bigger picture: How comfortable are you with the knowledge (since it is knowledge now as you wrote) that other countries are deliberately trying to influence your politics by using American companies to spread false information for their political gain?

(ironically something the US did in other countries for the last 70 years or so)

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22207353)
Change the subject! Pivot! Deflect! You're as predicable as a sunrise. Ace.

Thats why I have the fakes blocked. There's no back and forth discussion just propaganda shoved down your throat, no "meeting of the minds" on anything, that's not how normal American/Canadian discourse/discussion/debate goes.

Then you have the nics that try to minimize what's being done is normal or no big deal or done by us before so we deserve it.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207337)
Yes , you minimize in defense of Russia. You don't like the media either. You don't like the FBI either. The FBI & media are the buffers American society has between us and a dictatorship.

Where did I say I don't like the media. I like the media very much. I don't like Fox, CNN, NBC because everyone is pushing an agenda. I watch CNN 8 hours a day (we have it playing in the office) So I see every presser, everything said from officials live and when it happens. I then get the pleasure of watching them twist the words in a way to fit their narrative.

The media is huge and has to be respected but right now none of the big boys are being honest. Online media (not fake news like Infowars and the Huffpost) is only going to get bigger and bigger if MSM keeps going down the path they are headed.

Not one of you are talking about how the FBI is in a rough spot today. They have the President shitting on them every day. Which he is very wrong to do, people were already losing confidence in them and now after a massive shooting we find out that someone close to the killer called the FBI a month ago and warned them the kid was talking about killing people and they didn't follow up? This could be real ugly in a very scary way.

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207359)
(ironically something the US did in other countries for the last 70 years or so)

Putin is doing more than politics.

Putin and his bots, stolen identities & fake nics are trying to destroy the FBI & media, Americas buffer from being a dictatorship.

It's one thing to influence an election it's another thing to try to destroy democracy and turn it into a dictatorship :2 cents:

MaDalton 02-16-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22207371)
Putin is doing more than politics.

Putin and his bots, stolen identities & fake nics are trying to destroy the FBI & media, Americas buffer from being a dictatorship.

It's one thing to influence an election it's another thing to try to destroy democracy and turn it into a dictatorship :2 cents:

Iran, Cuba, Nicaragua,... do I need to go on?

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207373)
Iran, Cuba, Nicaragua,... do I need to go on?

State your point. You're being vague.

Rochard 02-16-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22207359)
I have said it here before: Hillary was not a good candidate but per se at least qualified

I don't get this. I don't like her, but I never saw her do anything bad. Or even wrong. Benghazi was handled the only way it could have been handled, and had little to do with Hillary and the State Department. The email crap was pure bullshit; Lots of high ranking government employees had the same exact set up.

What did she ever do that was bad?

Trump has been one disaster after another. He has accomplished nothing other than corporate America getting a massive (MASSIVE) tax break. I didn't get one - I make $3 more every two months. EVERYTHING has been bad, and now we know he is banging everyone except for his wife.

How the fuck did this happen?

crockett 02-16-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207227)
Nobody cares.

The fact that theindictments say these Russians talked directly to people in the Trump campaign, says someone cares...


Drip,..drip..drip..

OneHungLo 02-16-2018 12:12 PM

Bladewire, just admit you'd be sucking uncut Russian dick by the dumpster load if they helped out crooked Hillary...

Rochard 02-16-2018 12:14 PM

Mueller just sent a very strong message to President Trump. He is saying this investigation is very detailed and far reaching. Mueller and the FBI is going to turn over every last rock.

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22207353)

It helped.


Of course it helped. Do you think that's what pushed it over the edge? I know a lot of people (you do as well I am sure) who wanted Bernie to win, when he lost and it came out that it was rigged against him every one of those people chose to not vote. On a scale of what tipped Trump over the top, I think the cheating within their own part is was really caused him to win. Not deflecting anything back and saying HILLARY HILLARY HILLARY, I think the Dems screwed themselves and like the Liberal part in Canada did after we sent them the message by voting for the NDP, they need to stop going down the path they are going. They need to re-tool and come back with good leadership and talk about the issues.

Winning over Roy Moore in Alabama is nice, but step back and look at it. Jones barely and it really was barely... Beat a credibly accused child molester. That's scary. They can't be taking those kind of chances, they have to suck it up and run some more moderate candidates in 2018 because current polls have the GOP coming back strong in some of these races. You can't hope to win with pro abortion candidates in Alabama on the regular. But nope seems like they want to keep losing

Bladewire 02-16-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207391)
Bladewire, just admit you'd be sucking uncut Russian dick by the dumpster load

There are a lot of sexy Russians. Everyday Russians are a lot like everyday Americans pretty much exactly like us. I've worked with many Russians over the years, and I will continue to do so. When I say "Russians" I'm referencing Putin and his war on America and destroying democracy in Russia, not the everyday Russian people.

OneHungLo 02-16-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22207387)
The fact that theindictments say these Russians talked directly to people in the Trump campaign, says someone cares...


Drip,..drip..drip..

Where? it states "Rosenstein said there is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the scheme, nor is there any allegation that the scheme affected the outcome of the election."

RedFred 02-16-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207391)
Bladewire, just admit you'd be sucking uncut Russian dick by the dumpster load if they helped out crooked Hillary...



Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207391)
Thank you Putin for helping in our election. I will always worship and love you.


Wonder how many govt watch lists you're on?

beerptrol 02-16-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22207391)
Bladewire, just admit you'd be sucking uncut Russian dick by the dumpster load if they helped out crooked Hillary...

Like the way you are sucking theirs now? Keep deflecting.


So much for it being a hoax and witch hunt

crockett 02-16-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX (Post 22207223)
Okay, we all knew this Facebook told us that already. So what does this have to do with Trump? You really think the social media meddling was why Trump won? serious question

This group was posing as Americans and worked/talked directly with the Trump campaign to organize ad buys as well as set up rallies inside the US.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rod-ros...tream-updates/

According to the indictment, "Some Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities."

So they have no proof that Trump's people knew they were Russian but Trump's people were working directly with them....

Keep in mind, this is just one small part of the entire investigation, just like Manafort and the other guys were a separate part. More will come..

What this does is puts it on record that Russians were involved and they did work with the Trump campaign even if the Trump campaign was ignorant of it. This now make is next to impossible for Trump to shut down the investigation..

You can bet your ass this was released as a way to make it impossible for Trump to shut down the investigation and force traitor Republicans to end their non sense that it's all fake news..

RedFred 02-16-2018 12:18 PM

https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...1c&oe=5B13B3F3

Matt-ADX 02-16-2018 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22207381)

What did she ever do that was bad?

She took over the DNC paid the bills and screwed the people's candidate out of the chance to become president. Bernie vs Trump, I think we can all agree Sanders wins.


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