Which politician will be the first one to say "Now is not the time to talk about gun control" first?
 

Which politician will be the first one to say "Now is not the time to talk about gun control" first?

Donald Trump
Marco Rubio
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Rick Scott (Gov of Florida)

I can see them all rushing to scream this at the same time...

Which non-American is going to be the first to butt into an American problem?


oh wait....

politics is not about what is good for the people it is about what is good for the politicians...

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I don't know but I know this is all Hillary's fault. :(

am I missing something or is murder suddenly legal?

Quebec City mosque shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec...osque_shooting

The ones who get paid the most by the NRA.

Instead of calling it an "American Problem", why not just call it a problem?


And Obama!! Don't forget Obama...


Probably.


There have already been 18 school shootings in the US this year: Everytown - ABC News

Shit! I thought Trump would say it first but I was wrong. Marco Rubio was the first. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/marco-ru...this-happened/

If republicans are profiting from it then yes.

Somali refugee faces terror charges in Canada stabbing, car attacks
https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNe...CN1C61FP-OCATP

Not to minimize the problem, but from the link you posted:




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Don't bother him with Canadian news. He doesn't care about Canada.



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The common denominator of these mass shootings is psychiatric drugs. Those types of drugs do have the side effects of violence and suicide. Stop the drugging of America to stop the shootings.

Yea because people in other countries don't take psychiatric drugs. Christ you people are retarded.

No doubt that this is true. But they also really need to do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of people with mental problems. And they need to do a better job of following up when people are leaving obvious warning signs all over the internet like this shooter did.




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the common denominator in all this is western culture. need more islam.

nobody takes meds/drugs like americans...nobody...I used to drop ship viagra all over the world america was 99% of my market...99% of all requests for drugs other than viagra came from america...the US demand for "pain medication" and mind altering drugs was phenomenal...I do not remember getting any requests from outside the USA for this, but I was too chicken shit to do it because it was illegal to sell without a license in my country but viagra was not...

wait a moment !!!!!!

was it not obama who made a law that mental ill can not buy a gun ?

and please help to find the name of the president who CANCELED this law.

i mean THIS PRESIDENT who said today that it would be a good idea that mental ill people should not be allowed to buy a gun.

what fucking monkey do you have there in the white house call himself president ???
i think i will call the USA from now on clownland - because I can not find a better description for this comedy show.

I'm gonna predict whats going to happen..

Someone like that baseball field shooter is gonna take out some Republican congressmen and perhaps some NRA officials and then it will finally be time to talk about background checks is and sensible gun restrictions which 90% of Americans support..

One of the fathers of one of the victims is gonna react to one of these shootings and he will take out the right people and that's the only thing that will change it. When people voting aginst fucking background checks start having crosshairs on their chest, they might think twice about how they vote.

Honestly, I'm amazed it hasn't happened yet.. A few NRA officials or a few gun nutter congressmen start getting shot they will suddenly rethink who should have guns..

Until that time every card carrying NRA member and every Republican in congress has these kids blood on their hands..

Sarah Huckabee Sanders will say it. She is the one who faces the press most.

I want to bang Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Doggie style. It would be a "hateful pity fuck". She's amazing. She stands up there with her fucked up eyes and lies about everything and spins shit and has this attitude like "I am right, you are all wrong, so go fuck yourself" and she has that shit eating grin every time.

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school shooter vrs mad fuck wads cutting off random peoples heads... hard choice for sure :2 cents:

in case you are unaware Mark, these school shooting can ONLY take place in suburbia and upscale areas... the urban schools are locked down like prisons. the Jewish schools have armed guards.

that's the main issue Mark, no one wants to talk about the truth. we don't need gun control, just lock the schools down like ghetto schools. problem solved.

my daughter went to a public school in Palmdale, guards, gates, metal detectors... there was no door in the dark room, no money. so the photography class she was taking at the times was kinda pointless. but the kids were safe.

as weird as this might sound, the only thing my daughter got from photography class was a lesbo stalker... no shit... that teacher called and stalked my daughter for some time...

something to consider when you want to organize news laws for us Americans, first find out what is going on, okay? even if you want to comment, you should first look at the real situation. :2 cents:

you might enjoy this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

Something needs to happen

on the surface, this would seem to be a true statement however with a press that continually lies to push privately held personal opinions over professional ethics... how would you even know without RESEARCH what is true. so you want to say shit like that 'prove it' okay? let's clean up some of the false information around here, cool? BTW I'm cool with it if you are correct, are you cool with it if you are wrong?

all kinds of shit is happening all the time :2 cents:

Nobody will just ask for a microphone and do a press conference to say "Now is not the time to talk gun control"

The ONLY people who will bring up gun control are the Mainstream Media reporters.
They were already screaming for it on CNN yesterday while the children were running out of the school. They didn't even wait for the incident to be over before they were already doing it.

Now which politician will ANSWER the shouted questions from the reporters and tell them now is not the time? I don't know.

By the way...unless we want to completely just throw out the Constitution...we CAN'T have any real "gun control" in this country as long as the 2nd Amendment exists.

As I have said before...IF we want to disarm ourselves, then we need Congress to grow some balls and repeal the 2nd Amendment.
All this tap-dancing with loopholes around the 2nd Amendment is nonsense.

Also..I would like to point out...when I was a kid and later in high school...damn near everyone had guns. Even the kids in highschool had rifles and shotguns on the gun racks of their pickups in the highschool parking lot. This kind of thing just didn't happen.

I'm thinking it's more of a problem with our society than an inanimate object.

And quite frankly...our society may have gotten to the low-point that gun ownership may NOT be possible anymore.

Which is why I say the 2nd Amendment needs to be repealed if that is what the majority of our citizens want.

oh look, took 5 seconds.... https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/tr...-control-rule/ enjoy, why don't you just take a beat and find out what the fuck you are talking about before you run your mouth? just sayin'... :2 cents:

interestingly enough the more the politicals and the media push 'entitlements' and 'divisions in the name of unity' the more violence there is in the streets :2 cents:

Piece of Canadian traitor trash :Oh crap

Interestingly enough the more conservatives and fox news whines about liberals and pushes their hate agenda in the name of division, the more violence there is in the streets.. :2 cents:

what you want me to approve ?

that he did roll back this small security obama was able to make ???

here it is

or his statement that mental ill people are the problem and not the weapons ?

here we go

and here (starting at around 4:50)

so what else you want to have proven ????
that he is an idiot ? - well, i think this is obvious enough !

oh you found it in 5 seconds but did not have another minute to read it ?

so WHAT is not correct except the fact that you WANT it not correct ?

Check this out...this should tell you all you need to know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School..._United_States

School shootings are through the roof NOW. But not so much before.

Even in the 1920's and 1930's when people were running around with actual machine guns...it didn't happen.

I think it's definitely a societal change we are witnessing. A loss of respect for life, etc.

And with this change...we may actually need to disarm our citizenry. :(

Won't stop criminals from using illegal guns. But it might stop this kind of thing from happening.

that was one of your really wise statements !

Guy is mess

Girl says the word ''Mankind'' Trudeau corrects her that it ''Peoplekind'' What a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z10goVbpLw0

Why are you changing the subject? Do you have no argument against my point?


Zzzzz.


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And the strange thing is... sometimes, I find her semi-cute. But only for a split second. Then she says something and I realize who she tries to speak for, and then I puke.


andI don't think I've ever seen her smile. Are you sure you don't mean KellyAnne Conway? She bullshits her way through every talking point like Sean Hannity does, but she smiles while doing it. It's like she has permanent duping delite.


No that's not true. All kinds of people want gun control. I even read that more than 60% of NRA members want gun control.

Before I say more though, let me say that I'm actually with you when it comes to guns. I don't own one personally, but I have no problem with people who do. A pistol for self defense? Fine. A shotgun for scary self-defense? Better! You have an interest in WWII guns or sniper rifles? Ok, BUT BUT BUT....

What the US really needs is gun control that: Prevents mentally ill, criminals, anyone with any record at all, from buying, owning or carrying a gun. To me this is common sense. It lets good people like you and me own guns AND makes the world alot safer at the same time.

And when it comes to sniper rilfes, OK, but with restrictions such as small magazines. At LEAST small magazines. Maybe high capacity magaines can be available "for rent" only at the shooting range or something... Is this so bad?

Am I wrong here?

I don't think you're "wrong".

But you have to realize that the United States is based on the constitution.

It's a right to own guns. The 2nd amendment specifically says that Congress shall make no law restricting that.

I think that all of this loophole b.s. trying to make "gun control" laws is unconstitutional and leads to the govt. having more control over people...for instance, declaring that a citizen is crazy and institutionalizing them against their will (which is being openly discussed on CNN "panels").

Our founding fathers had the wisdom to create mechanisms to change the Constitution.
Congress has done it before.
For instance...they created the 16th amendment to legalize income tax (they didn't even hesitate on that one lol)

They have the power to begin the process to repeal the 2nd amendment.
Once that amendment is repealed...then all the arguments stop.

But they don't have the balls to do it.

And of course the NRA and companies that make guns are going to lobby against that and do their best to sway any decision.
That's what they SHOULD do. It's their 1st amendment right. And I don't blame them at all.

But repealing the 2nd amendment is truly the only way to disarm citizens.

You can't have "rights" and then just decide to take them away because we are upset over this horrible incident.

What's needed is thoughtful action to legally CHANGE that "right" to fit in with a society that now has no regard for human life.

I agree in spirit with what you are saying Robbie. I too think the 2nd Amendment should be repealed - but then a NEW Amendment (whatever # we are up to) to allow gun ownership but under very strict guidelines. This way we preserve the integrity of the Constitution and get what we both want (I think).

But as to the "integrity of the Constitution" (to humbly quote myself): What about the 4th Amendment? The 5th? Even the 1st? "Freedom zones"? What the FUCK are those? And why do people go along with them and get herded into them like sheeple instead of demanding their 1st Amendment Rights to congregate and protest wherever the fuck they feel like it? (OK as long as they aren't hurting anyone or obstructing daily life activities.)

"You can have 'freedom of speech' but only in this restricted pen over here. Now get in the cage and wave your little signs." ????? So it seems to me Gov't picks and chooses what part of the Constitution they like and suits their agendas and which parts they don't like. Kinda like The Bible. LOL

but when did they make this law ?

and WHY and for WHAT ?

we both know good enough that times have changed a lot since then.

2000 years ago the bible was the law. millions of people have been killed because they found the excuse in the bible.

a constitution mirrors the problems of the time when it was written.
to keep it as an unchangeable dogma is not smart is is dumb.
you can 1 to 1 compare it with the problems caused by conservative islam.
they also do nothing else as doing what is written in a hundred of years old book.

so how can this go together ?
america wanted to be the most progressive civilization of the planet and is not even able to liberate itself from obsolete laws ?

why not burn witches again ?

btw this 2nd amendment is not really an american invention.
it has it´s roots in england - so nothing really unique or original what you would lose.

The US Constitution is not a static old document that never changes. This why we have "amendments", meaning add-ons or additions to the original Constitution. So we DO change with the times (remember slavery?)

My proposal is the most Democratic. We cannot simply change the 2nd Amendment (or amend the Amendment if you will). No, we would have to abolish the 2nd Amendment and then ADD a "new" Amendment.

This new Amendment would be based on the current 2nd Amendment but include background checks, stricter control laws like IDs, etc. The debate would get most heated when discussing what type of guns (and ammunition) will be legal and which is not. But America should have a National Special Amendment Vote to see how the Country feels. What with all the shootings, almost daily now, this is an Emergency situation and our Dear Leaders should show leadership and get the ball rolling on changing the Constitution ASAP.

Sorry there's not a single person in Washington I would trust to amend anything as far as the constitution is concerned. A collective is even more frightening. :1orglaugh

There's no need to change the constitution. A law will change nothing.. That's already proven fact.. Gun free zone? Thats what gets shot up.. Gun ban? Chicago.

of course - there have been a few changes and each one has been based on the idea of what the founding fathers wanted to accomplish.

in the case of the 2nd amendment you do not even have to go that far and just take a look at what's in the original text.

I do not know where the opinion comes from the 2nd Amendment would give the civilian individual the right to carry weapons. this is not what the 2nd amendment say because in the original text is written:

now lets ask the oxford dictionary what the "militia" means.

so i think we can agree that a militia is not an individual person, ok ?

the reasons for such a civil defense were probably that there was no real united America at that time and the aftermath of the civil war was still too fresh.
since this militia did not exist as an institution, there was nothing left but to raise the civilian population to this rank.

but this gap of the missing militia was later filled by the national guard.
if the national guard had already existed at this time, the 2 constitutional amendment would have referred precisely to this militia.

if a sheriff makes you a helper today and say "watch 'til I'm back" then you will have to return the sheriff star and the service pistol after his return

of course, the sight of this fact has just been prevented by the powerful ones who make hundreds of billions of dollars a year and who think so immoral that even a gunman is used as an advertisement to sell more weapons.

anyone who closes their eyes to this logic takes nothing more than his right to stupidity because he is led astray with false arguments

Ok - might as well get rid of all the laws then.

And disband the police, and close up all of the courts.

Oh and I am going to come around to your house and take whatever I want.

You are one dumb motherfucker, and every time you open your mouth the normal folks suffer a collective mix of shame and embarrassment that you are actually the same species as the rest of us.

The only proven fact is what a fucking weapon you are.

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hahahahaaaaaaa.

true - why did we not check that yet that laws are changing nothing and make a simple anarchy.

this guy is SO UNBELIEVABLE MAD !!!

The problem has been during her time in office. So she must share the blame.

This is an American problem because you keep voting for the people who only listen to you when they want your vote. Then when they get it they only listen to their funders.

An easy solution would be the police issue gun licenses. If more police are needed to issue licenses an appropriate fee will cover the costs. That, of course, includes sales at gun shows. It will slowly weed out the guns in the hands of the wrong type of people.