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Grapesoda 02-08-2018 07:15 AM

Quincy Jones calls Beatles 'worst musicians,' says MJ stole songs
 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news...cid=spartanntp

poncabare 02-08-2018 07:16 AM

He?s right

Grapesoda 02-08-2018 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 22197829)
He?s right

really I thought Paul was a pretty good player.

PR_Glen 02-08-2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22197835)
really I thought Paul was a pretty good player.

they all were. Either his quote was taken out of context or his god complex has taken over completely.

That being said. The best guitar players ever are probably studio musicians whom you have never heard of and will never in their life write anything of meaningful significance compared to the ones who are successful at it. Being the best at an instrument isn't enough normally.

ilnjscb 02-08-2018 07:39 AM

wow these characters go crazy when they hit old age - brains must be like swiss cheese

except this bit on Michael Jackson - very true:

"I used to kill him about the plastic surgery, man. He'd always justify it and say it was because of some disease he had. Bulls--t," Jones said. "He had a problem with his looks because his father told him he was ugly and abused him. What do you expect?"

SuckOnThis 02-08-2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 22197829)
He?s right

Lets see your musical catalog.

tony286 02-08-2018 08:18 AM

he called bono a brother and then said their new music sucks now. I think at 85 you dont give a shit. The man was a musician,where the beatles were artists.

rogueteens 02-08-2018 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22197843)
they all were.

Yeah, the beatles were great musicians. they had a drummer too. :D

brassmonkey 02-08-2018 08:53 AM

sup with these people bashing dead people?? jones is the don king of music! snake oil fucker!

poncabare 02-08-2018 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22197835)
really I thought Paul was a pretty good player.

They are the first boy band

PR_Glen 02-08-2018 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 22197883)
Yeah, the beatles were great musicians. they had a drummer too. :D

yeah, ringo didn't contribute much compared to the others but that was a pretty damn high bar you have to admit.

PR_Glen 02-08-2018 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 22197967)
They are the first boy band

umm sure, but they also wrote music that shaped the planet and will be remembered forever. You really want to compare that to what ensync or those other pop bands did?

The Porn Nerd 02-08-2018 10:32 AM

Quincy Jones has lost his mind. LOL

tony286 02-08-2018 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22198009)
Quincy Jones has lost his mind. LOL

I thought that at first but then I thought about it. The man conducted orchestras, the beatles couldnt play in them. They were artists and music was the tool they used to create their art. The true fifth beatle was george martin, he took all the ideas and made it into music. The only beatles album that wasnt produced by martin was the only that wasnt as successful as the others. That record was let it be, when you compare it to their next and last record they did with martin, Abby Road it was like it was from a different planet.

brassmonkey 02-08-2018 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22198021)
I thought that at first but then I thought about it. The man conducted orchestras, the beatles couldnt play in them. They were artists and music was the tool they used to create their art. The true fifth beatle was george martin, he took all the ideas and made it into music. The only beatles album that wasnt produced by martin was the only that wasnt as successful as the others. That record was let it be, when you compare it to their next and last record they did with martin, Abby Road it was like it was from a different planet.

that is it. we will not hear what they don't want us to hear. that is in many things tv radio ads every fucking thing down to food

Rand 02-08-2018 11:10 AM

The question asked about his "first" impression of The Beatles, which most-likely meant the very early years. I have a friend who worked for Decca Records in 1962, when they (pre-Ringo) auditioned for a record contract and Deccca infamously turned them away. They "became" a great band, and I think that's what Jones may have been referring to.

Here's the actual interview without the commentary and there's lots more. Well worth the read.

The Porn Nerd 02-08-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22198021)
I thought that at first but then I thought about it. The man conducted orchestras, the beatles couldnt play in them. They were artists and music was the tool they used to create their art. The true fifth beatle was george martin, he took all the ideas and made it into music. The only beatles album that wasnt produced by martin was the only that wasnt as successful as the others. That record was let it be, when you compare it to their next and last record they did with martin, Abby Road it was like it was from a different planet.

I actually interviewed George Martin once, way back in 1993. It was for the Broadway CD release of Tommy, which he produced. So we didn't talk Beatles much until the end when he allowed me to ask him 4 Beatles questions (one for each beatle). He was an amazing man, very gracious, and I will always remember my 1/2 hour with him. :)

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Originally Posted by Rand (Post 22198059)
The question asked about his "first" impression of The Beatles, which most-likely meant the very early years. I have a friend who worked for Decca Records in 1962, when they (pre-Ringo) auditioned for a record contract and Deccca infamously turned them away. They "became" a great band, and I think that's what Jones may have been referring to.

Here's the actual interview without the commentary and there's lots more. Well worth the read.

I think you may be right about this conclusion. The Beatles were not great virtuoso musicians but they were incredibly inventive musicians, often breaking musical barriers and conventions and discovering all kinds of unique phrases, chords and sounds. Personally, I will take creativity over musicianship any time. Oh - and they most likely influenced every artist Q worked with post 1966. :)

CaptainHowdy 02-08-2018 05:04 PM

That's drunk talk ...

Grapesoda 02-08-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 22197967)
They are the first boy band

nope, a few before them...

Grapesoda 02-08-2018 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22198253)
I actually interviewed George Martin once, way back in 1993. It was for the Broadway CD release of Tommy, which he produced. So we didn't talk Beatles much until the end when he allowed me to ask him 4 Beatles questions (one for each beatle). He was an amazing man, very gracious, and I will always remember my 1/2 hour with him. :)



I think you may be right about this conclusion. The Beatles were not great virtuoso musicians but they were incredibly inventive musicians, often breaking musical barriers and conventions and discovering all kinds of unique phrases, chords and sounds. Personally, I will take creativity over musicianship any time. Oh - and they most likely influenced every artist Q worked with post 1966. :)

the Beatles were primarily singers and songwriters

gnawledge 02-08-2018 07:43 PM

Beatles suck... Overrated..

The Porn Nerd 02-08-2018 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 22198523)
Beatles suck... Overrated..

How DARE you???!

:mad:

ilnjscb 02-09-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22198253)
I actually interviewed George Martin once, way back in 1993. It was for the Broadway CD release of Tommy, which he produced. So we didn't talk Beatles much until the end when he allowed me to ask him 4 Beatles questions (one for each beatle). He was an amazing man, very gracious, and I will always remember my 1/2 hour with him. :)



I think you may be right about this conclusion. The Beatles were not great virtuoso musicians but they were incredibly inventive musicians, often breaking musical barriers and conventions and discovering all kinds of unique phrases, chords and sounds. Personally, I will take creativity over musicianship any time. Oh - and they most likely influenced every artist Q worked with post 1966. :)

What an artist, what a genius, what a musician. Without him, we wouldn't have had the beatles. He is truly an unsung pioneer of classical modern music. Were the Beatles Mozart or Bach, no, but then neither is anybody else. They were great musicians from our century.

Rochard 02-09-2018 09:50 AM

Never was a huge fan of the Beatles. But what a great story. They were four bad kids into all kinds of debauchery (Read about their early days in German!) and yet they were presented to the world as four perfect kids. LOL.

I hate MJ. With a passion.

JFK 02-09-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22197843)
they all were. Either his quote was taken out of context or his god complex has taken over completely.

That being said. The best guitar players ever are probably studio musicians whom you have never heard of and will never in their life write anything of meaningful significance compared to the ones who are successful at it. Being the best at an instrument isn't enough normally.

very good observation :2 cents: :thumbsup

I read the whole interview, aside from the sensasional revelations, it's pretty good :thumbsup

Rand 02-09-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22197843)

That being said. The best guitar players ever are probably studio musicians whom you have never heard of and will never in their life write anything of meaningful significance compared to the ones who are successful at it. Being the best at an instrument isn't enough normally.


Related, many don't know that MJ's Thriller is backed (and partially written by) studio musicians who decided to make an album under the name Toto. This article seems to confirm some of what Jones referred to in his interview.


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CaptainHowdy 02-09-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 22197967)
They are the first boy band

That's THE CLASH ...

gnawledge 02-09-2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22198617)
How DARE you???!

:mad:

I?m sorry?but I just don?t feel them. Music has to touch your soul...

gnawledge 02-09-2018 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22198617)
How DARE you???!

:mad:

I?m sorry?but I just don?t feel them. Music has to touch your soul...


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