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Grapesoda 12-30-2017 08:06 AM

mental jumping jacks for thomy
 
please explain the positive and negative to me in terms of Schrödinger's cat :2 cents:

Grapesoda 12-30-2017 08:09 AM

then you can explain

https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/q...tanglement.htm


in terms of positive and negative electricity okay hotshot? and when you do, hit S. Hawkings with an email.... I'm sure this will change physics forever :2 cents:

Grapesoda 12-30-2017 08:18 AM

and since no ONE on planet earth, actually knows what gravity is, or understands gravity maybe you could enlighten us on the positive and negatives of gravity so we could all sleep a bit better...

and it will help the minorities feel equal if not Superior and feed the homeless and help guys figure why they have dicks, help girls figure out why guys have dicks and Bruce Jenner can then figure out why he doesn't have a dick :thumbsup

so get this misery all turned around for us bro-ham... can ya kick us down some love and understanding? in a positively negative way?

beerptrol 12-30-2017 08:22 AM

This is what happens when a mental midget gets access to the internet and google search ^^^^^^

Grapesoda 12-30-2017 08:32 AM

This message is hidden because beerptrol is on your ignore list. sometimes I check to see if you have anything of note to add to any conversation... so far no, I'll stop checking

thommy 12-30-2017 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22140324)
please explain the positive and negative to me in terms of Schrödinger's cat :2 cents:

schrödinger cat was more a philosophical as a physical statement but yes. the quantum physical experiments are proving the fact that observation is changing attributes.

that means that attributes can not be named good or bad - they are part of any existance.

and i think in the article you missed this part:

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For example, it is possible to prepare two particles in a single quantum state such that when one is observed to be spin-up, the other one will always be observed to be spin-down and vice versa, this despite the fact that it is impossible to predict, according to quantum mechanics, which set of measurements will be observed.
and no - i can not explain you what gravitation is or where it comes from and it is impossible to find the opposite of something what you do not understand.
it would lead to far to discuss the theoretical quantum gravitation in in the string theory because either you nor me can imagine a universe with 26 dimensions.

but i see you like the topic ;-)

Grapesoda 12-30-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22140399)
schrödinger cat was more a philosophical as a physical statement but yes. the quantum physical experiments are proving the fact that observation is changing attributes.

that means that attributes can not be named good or bad - they are part of any existance.

and i think in the article you missed this part:



and no - i can not explain you what gravitation is or where it comes from and it is impossible to find the opposite of something what you do not understand.
it would lead to far to discuss the theoretical quantum gravitation in in the string theory because either you nor me can imagine a universe with 26 dimensions.

but i see you like the topic ;-)

I disagree 100% with this statement:

that means that attributes cannot be named good or bad - they are part of any existence

what you are overlooking is that reality is highly subjective. YOU judge Newtonian physics to be the rule of law in the universe. it is being proven that this is NOT the case almost daily. hence your subjective reality limits your perceptions.

you seem to be stating that the philosophical and physical have a relationship but that the philosophical is limited by the physical world limitations and stipulations of Newtonian physics. I disagree.

AND I'm stating that I agree with you on this conditionally, 'attributes cannot be named good or bad', however, I think you are stating the premise wrong. it should be ''attributes are good or bad as I name them.' the oldest reference I'm aware of for this is 'in the begging there was the word' see?

bruce jenner cuts off dick... good or bad? a quantum particle on venus hops when the entangled quantum partial in your left nut sack jiggles and bops... good or bad?

I have dyslexia in that I type several words consistently backwards AND my train of thought will come out of order, then I must wait a bit and organize what I wrote into a 'logical train of thought with conclusions' that is more comprehensible.

hit me with a PM if you'd like to continue this conversation. we can go email...over and out



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Grapesoda 12-30-2017 09:17 AM

string theory, dimensions, holograms are nothing but mental paradigms designed to try and 'grab a hold' of the thoughts so we can 'manipulate reality' been that way since the first guy picked up a rock or lit the first fire. once we can 'encompass' the idea completely through the correct 'frame of reference or new subjective reality' reality that can be manipulated, by us.

our own personal metal exercises on the nature of reality are just as valid as anyone else's... create your own paradigm that allows you to access the tools need to reorganize your reality. I have. it's amazing :2 cents:

thommy 12-30-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22140447)
I disagree 100% with this statement:

that means that attributes cannot be named good or bad - they are part of any existence

what you are overlooking is that reality is highly subjective. YOU judge Newtonian physics to be the rule of law in the universe. it is being proven that this is NOT the case almost daily. hence your subjective reality limits your perceptions.

i do not overlook that - my planet have 2 poles and not only one.

if a lion kills a dear it might be good for the tiger but not for the dear but if the lion feels sorry for the dear he will die.

one life for another one. if that ois good or bad is a question of the perspetive and NOTHING else i have stated.

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you seem to be stating that the philosophical and physical have a relationship but that the philosophical is limited by the physical world limitations and stipulations of Newtonian physics. I disagree.
if philosophy have an end for YOU you are weak in phantasy.

If you get killed by a falling flowerpott you get killed from newton´s laws.

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AND I'm stating that I agree with you on this conditionally, 'attributes cannot be named good or bad', however, I think you are stating the premise wrong. it should be ''attributes are good or bad as I name them.' the oldest reference I'm aware of for this is 'in the begging there was the word' see?
nope atrributes are good or bed depending what consequences they have for you.
and I doubt that anyone on this planed can see the WHOLE range of follow ups.

so what i say is that EVERYTHING what happen to you will have either good AND bad consequences. means: in sum they mean nothing because you can just see the shortterm effect.

i think that we both might mean the same thing but my view is a more optimistic one as yours.

CaptainHowdy 12-30-2017 03:36 PM


dillfly2000 12-30-2017 11:34 PM

I read they may have found a way to observe these particles without collapsing the wave function.

thommy 12-31-2017 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dillfly2000 (Post 22141200)
I read they may have found a way to observe these particles without collapsing the wave function.

in regards to gravitation: they where already able to produce antimatter with anti gravitation. that would be the last existing issue what did not yet had a proven opposite. but on the other hand the expansion of the universe can not be explained by gravitation - there MUST be an opposite power for this effect.

that proves again my theory that nothing positive or negative can exist without the opposite. what brings us back to the topic of this thread and explains why negative
experience can be not only seen with a smile - the existence of negative experience is mandatory that the opposite can happen

Grapesoda 12-31-2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22140480)
i do not overlook that - my planet have 2 poles and not only one.

if a lion kills a dear it might be good for the tiger but not for the dear but if the lion feels sorry for the dear he will die.

one life for another one. if that ois good or bad is a question of the perspetive and NOTHING else i have stated.



if philosophy have an end for YOU you are weak in phantasy.

If you get killed by a falling flowerpott you get killed from newton´s laws.



nope atrributes are good or bed depending what consequences they have for you.
and I doubt that anyone on this planed can see the WHOLE range of follow ups.

so what i say is that EVERYTHING what happen to you will have either good AND bad consequences. means: in sum they mean nothing because you can just see the shortterm effect.

i think that we both might mean the same thing but my view is a more optimistic one as yours.

okay. I get it, some days gravity is bad some days it's good, depends on if you stub your toes or not. thanks!

Grapesoda 12-31-2017 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22141251)
in regards to gravitation: they where already able to produce antimatter with anti gravitation. that would be the last existing issue what did not yet had a proven opposite. but on the other hand the expansion of the universe can not be explained by gravitation - there MUST be an opposite power for this effect.

that proves again my theory that nothing positive or negative can exist without the opposite. what brings us back to the topic of this thread and explains why negative
experience can be not only seen with a smile - the existence of negative experience is mandatory that the opposite can happen

nope, you are confusing physics with matters of the spirit, I do NOT believe that the psyche is tied to Newtonian physics. you may believe as you wish, and if you believe only in Newtonian Physics and not the spirit of humanity... you live in a weird world I know nothing about...

last I check nobody had a fucking clue what gravity is and dark matter is compressing the universe while dark energy is expanding the universe. and since only 4.7% of reality is understood and categorized and 98% of that is hydrogen and helium the purpose of the universe to compress and expand hydrogen and helium.

there, you sorted out now bro-ham?

thommy 12-31-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22142094)
nope, you are confusing physics with matters of the spirit, I do NOT believe that the psyche is tied to Newtonian physics. you may believe as you wish, and if you believe only in Newtonian Physics and not the spirit of humanity... you live in a weird world I know nothing about...

last I check nobody had a fucking clue what gravity is and dark matter is compressing the universe while dark energy is expanding the universe. and since only 4.7% of reality is understood and categorized and 98% of that is hydrogen and helium the purpose of the universe to compress and expand hydrogen and helium.

there, you sorted out now bro-ham?

you may call it spirit - i call it logic and the laws of probability.
every particle in our body is existing since the beginning of the time and it is born in an exploding sun. we ARE physics.

if someone wins in the lottery (which one can not necessarily call good because it entails a lot of consequences in the world of chaos) it has nothing to do with spirit but with the fact that someone has to win by logic rules. and if there is a "winner" it will not happen without losers on the other end (wich again can not be called necessarily bad).

if you think back in your life you will find out that nothing what ever hapend to you (no matter if you define it good or bad) would have happend without an opposite circumstance before.

it is maybe not THE physical world formula but the balance between plus and minus is for me the one and only logic way to divide the number zero and let things arise out of nothing.

i wish you a nice 2018 with the right balance between positive and negative to move forward.

Grapesoda 01-01-2018 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22142109)
you may call it spirit - i call it logic and the laws of probability.
every particle in our body is existing since the beginning of the time and it is born in an exploding sun. we ARE physics.

if someone wins in the lottery (which one can not necessarily call good because it entails a lot of consequences in the world of chaos) it has nothing to do with spirit but with the fact that someone has to win by logic rules. and if there is a "winner" it will not happen without losers on the other end (wich again can not be called necessarily bad).

if you think back in your life you will find out that nothing what ever hapend to you (no matter if you define it good or bad) would have happend without an opposite circumstance before.

it is maybe not THE physical world formula but the balance between plus and minus is for me the one and only logic way to divide the number zero and let things arise out of nothing.

i wish you a nice 2018 with the right balance between positive and negative to move forward.

the laws of probability: the universe provides ALL possibilities, humanity by judgement defines possibilities to a 100% conclusion.

things happen all the time without an opposite circumstance... in your heart and mind. you are confused with physics, once again. and 'the mind' no matter how you slice and dice no matter what you mental jumping jacks you play, if you do or do not believe in god, whatever you THINK you believe... this: humans are a VIRTUAL REALITY that has biological support. end of story.

so you are WAY THE FUCK PAST positive and negative in a car battery, okay homeboy? should you chose to ignore or not admit to yourself that this is the circumstances of life, you will be life's bitch :2 cents:

thommy 01-01-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22142613)

so you are WAY THE FUCK PAST positive and negative in a car battery, okay homeboy? should you chose to ignore or not admit to yourself that this is the circumstances of life, you will be life's bitch :2 cents:

hmmm... i really should give up to try intelligent conversations with undereducated morons.

i think i know a bit more about life as you do and i have a fucking happy and good life.
how good is yours that you are so sure anybody would be interested to take your advise serious?

if i am one day on the trip that i want to be a looser - i will ask you - i promise!

Grapesoda 01-01-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22142859)
hmmm... i really should give up to try intelligent conversations with undereducated morons.

i think i know a bit more about life as you do and i have a fucking happy and good life.
how good is yours that you are so sure anybody would be interested to take your advise serious?

if i am one day on the trip that i want to be a looser - i will ask you - i promise!

cool, to be honest, I couldn't decipher your post, I figured ESL and gave you the benefit of doubt, and now you have backed away from the conversation with insults and an assumed superiority of mind and breeding... BRAVO!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh what a fuckin boob :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

yeah, I can see you have a great life...and a TRUE to the BONE Libby... tell ya what... why don't you hop down the local library and burn that fucker to the ground!!


BTW I do have 2 speeds, on and more on :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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