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Rochard 12-20-2017 05:54 PM

Introducing The Open Internet Preservation Act
 
Whew. That was fast.

The same week the FCC killed net neutrality, they are working on a new bill....

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....leave the door open for internet providers to begin segmenting their networks and begin charging content providers like Google, Facebook, and other companies for better access to users.
Republicans are coming out with a 'net neutrality' plan that will only please internet providers

That's just the first step. At some point ISPs will begin throttling your account because you are watching Netflix or whatever, and you will have to pay extra for a "high bandwidth" package.

Brad Mitchell 12-20-2017 08:26 PM

I can't find the article that I read earlier.. said that the FCC are going to move to reclassify mobile devices as broadband internet. Not cool, but what a way to skew the real numbers.

Brad

kane 12-20-2017 08:58 PM

There is a town about an hour for me that has co-op internet. The prices are good. They have 300mb up and down for $40/mo and 1gigabit up and down for $60. It's owned by the people of the city and operates as a non-profit service for the people of the town. If things get ugly with other ISPs I have a feeling we will start seeing more of this.

bronco67 12-20-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22127184)
There is a town about an hour for me that has co-op internet. The prices are good. They have 300mb up and down for $40/mo and 1gigabit up and down for $60. It's owned by the people of the city and operates as a non-profit service for the people of the town. If things get ugly with other ISPs I have a feeling we will start seeing more of this.

Mom and pop ISPs. I like it.

bronco67 12-20-2017 09:45 PM

I love the way they name these despicable laws something very to sound like something very benign and wonderful. Like naming an aggressive Pitbull "Sunshine". They're so dumb because they think they're fooling everyone with the cute name they come up with for their shitty law.

Or maybe they're master comedians making a joke at us as the final knife twist.

rowan 12-20-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22127184)
There is a town about an hour for me that has co-op internet. The prices are good. They have 300mb up and down for $40/mo and 1gigabit up and down for $60. It's owned by the people of the city and operates as a non-profit service for the people of the town. If things get ugly with other ISPs I have a feeling we will start seeing more of this.

That assumes their upstream provider continues to provide them with an untainted wholesale connection. What if their upstream also decides to start pricing different quality/access tiers?

slapass 12-20-2017 09:47 PM

Don’t we already pay the phone bill like they want to do the internet? I don’t see this as a big deal at all.

kane 12-21-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 22127235)
That assumes their upstream provider continues to provide them with an untainted wholesale connection. What if their upstream also decides to start pricing different quality/access tiers?

Anything could happen. This isn't a fix for a lack of net neutrality, but it's a good option if individual ISPs start charging more or restricting access.

kane 12-21-2017 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22127238)
Don?t we already pay the phone bill like they want to do the internet? I don?t see this as a big deal at all.

Just a hypothetical. What if all ISPs in the US blocked porn and users had to pay them $40 per month for them to unblock it? If you think selling porn to people is hard now, imagine how it will be when they already are paying every month just to be able to surf the sites.

Rochard 12-21-2017 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 22127238)
Don?t we already pay the phone bill like they want to do the internet? I don?t see this as a big deal at all.

No worries - soon they will be removing the regulations on phone companies too. Eventually your "unlimited" plan will require a "speed upgrade" for $10 a month so you can stream video.

plsureking 12-21-2017 05:01 AM

..or, removing these shackles allows ISPs to start growing again, and maybe actually help us serve 4k video to the masses, or block the massive daily hoardes of hackers. ISP tech stopped growing when this policy was put into place.

think bigger and you'll see the other side of the coin.

i built an adult portal for a mobile provider in South Africa. that's a closed system, seeing as how customers need to pay to get on the network. the portal had 1 million uniques its 1st full month in operation. they sell an access subscription about every 37 seconds.

IMO FWIW = fighting about politics is a waste of time and energy. you can't change anything. you are just putting yourself into an early grave. watch the policy changes and figure out how to make money. otherwise you will be bitching and broke until you can't type anymore.

:2 cents:

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CoolMikey 12-21-2017 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22127370)
Just a hypothetical. What if all ISPs in the US blocked porn and users had to pay them $40 per month for them to unblock it? If you think selling porn to people is hard now, imagine how it will be when they already are paying every month just to be able to surf the sites.

It's just as likely that network companies will squeeze the website owners instead, tube site / file locker owners push massive bandwidth, so they will be hurt the most, and so giving away free porn by the truckload could become no longer profitable. And so, less free porn = easier to sell paid memberships.

Realistically though there will be no noticeable changes for either customers or website owners, just think back how the internet was all along till few years ago when "net neutrality" was passed, so I don't see any reason why there would be any major changes now.

Paul Markham 12-21-2017 08:02 AM

Why shouldn't the heavy users pay more?

plsureking 12-21-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolMikey (Post 22127622)
It's just as likely that network companies will squeeze the website owners instead, tube site / file locker owners push massive bandwidth, so they will be hurt the most, and so giving away free porn by the truckload could become no longer profitable. And so, less free porn = easier to sell paid memberships.

Realistically though there will be no noticeable changes for either customers or website owners, just think back how the internet was all along till few years ago when "net neutrality" was passed, so I don't see any reason why there would be any major changes now.

i agree. just keep working :pimp

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2MuchMark 12-21-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 22127175)
I can't find the article that I read earlier.. said that the FCC are going to move to reclassify mobile devices as broadband internet. Not cool, but what a way to skew the real numbers.

Brad


Hi Brad,

I have a question for you on all of this. How does the new ruling affect you? I mean, will your costs for anything go up? Does it make you more flexible, or does it tie your hands? Any ideas on what it does for sites with content on ISP's in both the US and other countries like Canada or Britain?

Paul Markham 12-22-2017 06:38 AM

If the prices rise too much, switch it off. That will kill any excessive rate hike.

JasonCollins 12-22-2017 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22127544)
..or, removing these shackles allows ISPs to start growing again, and maybe actually help us serve 4k video to the masses, or block the massive daily hoardes of hackers. ISP tech stopped growing when this policy was put into place.

think bigger and you'll see the other side of the coin.

i built an adult portal for a mobile provider in South Africa. that's a closed system, seeing as how customers need to pay to get on the network. the portal had 1 million uniques its 1st full month in operation. they sell an access subscription about every 37 seconds.

IMO FWIW = fighting about politics is a waste of time and energy. you can't change anything. you are just putting yourself into an early grave. watch the policy changes and figure out how to make money. otherwise you will be bitching and broke until you can't type anymore.

:2 cents:

#porncms

Couldn't agree more man! :thumbsup Enjoy your Christmas!


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