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pimpmaster9000 10-25-2017 07:06 AM

New saudi prince promises moderate saudi arabia open to all religions
 
Saudi Arabia's crown prince promises country will return to 'moderate, open Islam' | The Independent

Saudi Arabia?s crown prince, speaking at a major investment conference, has promised his kingdom will return to ?what we were before ? a country of moderate Islam that is open to all religions and to the world?.

Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud made the announcement at the beginning of the landmark Future Investment Initiative in Riyadh on Tuesday.

The country would also do more to tackle extremism, the prince said. ?We will not waste 30 years of our lives dealing with extremist ideas; we will destroy them today,? he said when asked by Maria Bartiromo of Fox Business Network.

?It was not like this in the past... We will end extremism very soon,? the prince added, in his most direct criticism of Saudi Arabia?s conservative religious establishment to date.

Expanding on his earlier comments in an interview with the Guardian, the crown prince said that the country's conservatism was in part fallout from Iran's Islamic Revolution.

?What happened in the last 30 years is not Saudi Arabia. What happened in the region in the last 30 years is not the Middle East. After the Iranian revolution in 1979, people wanted to copy this model in different countries, one of them is Saudi Arabia. We didn?t know how to deal with it. And the problem spread all over the world. Now is the time to get rid of it.

"We are a G20 country. One of the biggest world economies. We?re in the middle of three continents. Changing Saudi Arabia for the better means helping the region and changing the world. So this is what we are trying to do here. And we hope we get support from everyone."

Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy, is governed under an puritanical form of Sunni Islam known as Wahabism; it is extremist versions of Wahabism that are espoused by jihadist movements such as al-Qaeda and Isis.

In the wake of 9/11, the Saudi authorities have worked alongside the US and other Western countries to tackle radicalisation and terrorism funding ? but have often been criticised for not doing enough.

mineistaken 10-25-2017 07:08 AM

talk is cheap

pimpmaster9000 10-25-2017 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22049415)
talk is cheap

so is your mom...

mineistaken 10-25-2017 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22049439)
so is your mom...

ad hominem train by own country traitor :thumbsup

Helix 10-25-2017 07:53 AM

It will be interesting to see how much resistance he gets from the extremists.

klinton 10-25-2017 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22049463)
It will be interesting to see how much resistance he gets from the extremists.

exactly. overall good news, thanks Mohammed ! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

@mineistaken I bet that if you would be Saudi, you would also shout "traitor" to a guys like...Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud ! IMO at least. its very common with that special kind of people like you:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Hannes 10-25-2017 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22049463)
It will be interesting to see how much resistance he gets from the extremists.

Agreed, A lot of people aren't open to others views In todays society.. Hopefully it turns out well

pimpmaster9000 10-25-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix (Post 22049463)
It will be interesting to see how much resistance he gets from the extremists.

well he supposedly has the USA backing him so he can just cut their heads off...business as usual in saudi...

JFK 10-25-2017 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22049439)
so is your mom...

:1orglaugh:helpme

Barry-xlovecam 10-25-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22049409)
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-saud-moderate-islam-vision-2030-conference-a8017181.html]

...
Expanding on his earlier comments in an interview with the Guardian, the crown prince said that the country's conservatism was in part fallout from Iran's Islamic Revolution.

?What happened in the last 30 years is not Saudi Arabia. What happened in the region in the last 30 years is not the Middle East. After the Iranian revolution in 1979, people wanted to copy this model in different countries, one of them is Saudi Arabia. We didn?t know how to deal with it. And the problem spread all over the world. Now is the time to get rid of it.

"We are a G20 country. One of the biggest world economies. We?re in the middle of three continents. Changing Saudi Arabia for the better means helping the region and changing the world. So this is what we are trying to do here. And we hope we get support from everyone."

Saudi Arabia, an absolute monarchy, is governed under an puritanical form of Sunni Islam known as Wahabism; it is extremist versions of Wahabism that are espoused by jihadist movements such as al-Qaeda and Isis. ...

Sounds good ... Theoretically they could lead ... theoretically :upsidedow

mineistaken 10-25-2017 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22049543)
exactly. overall good news, thanks Mohammed ! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

@mineistaken I bet that if you would be Saudi, you would also shout "traitor" to a guys like...Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud ! IMO at least. its very common with that special kind of people like you:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I think you misunderstood me. I shout traitor at people who leave their own country to live in foreign land.

Sarn 10-25-2017 10:49 AM

The Middle East has a new sheriff))

http://static6.businessinsider.com/i...bin-salman.jpg
Russian Defense Minister Arrives in Qatar for First-Ever Visit
https://sputniknews.com/russia/20171...t-visit-qatar/

Russia, Qatar sign agreement on military and technical cooperation
http://tass.com/defense/972547

Russia and Saudi Arabia are becoming unlikely allies
Russia and Saudi Arabia becoming allies - Business Insider

klinton 10-25-2017 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22049795)
The Middle East has a new sheriff))

http://static6.businessinsider.com/i...bin-salman.jpg
Russian Defense Minister Arrives in Qatar for First-Ever Visit
https://sputniknews.com/russia/20171...t-visit-qatar/

Russia, Qatar sign agreement on military and technical cooperation
TASS: Military & Defense - Russia, Qatar sign agreement on military and technical cooperation

Russia and Saudi Arabia are becoming unlikely allies
Russia and Saudi Arabia becoming allies - Business Insider

comrade, was thinking where you have been, and YET BAM, here you are !
it's good, all good, Saudis are one of the best arm buyers (they buy anything from anyone) in the world, time to party !
let me show you how they do it in brother Ukraine:
http://blogs.reuters.com/photographe...6/RTR2OX2V.jpg

and here is that other thing that only stupid unexperienced Pollack would eat together with vodka [normal people eat it with BEER]
https://theafricanpotnutrition.com/w...ic-kitchen.png

and here are drifting Saudis:


and here are casual armed Russians drivers that only sometimes do drift:

klinton 10-25-2017 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22049691)
I think you misunderstood me. I shout traitor at people who leave their own country to live in foreign land.

so you fit in very well in what I wrote, IMO at least.

mineistaken 10-25-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22049855)
so you fit in very well in what I wrote, IMO at least.

How so? Is that Mohamed not living in his country that I would call him a traitor?

Sarn 10-25-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22049847)
comrade, was thinking where you have been, and YET BAM, here you are !
it's good, all good, Saudis are one of the best arm buyers (they buy anything from anyone) in the world, time to party !
let me show you how they do it in brother Ukraine:

Need help them comrade!
I will headed you - Coub - GIFs with sound
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22049847)
and here is that other thing that only stupid unexperienced Pollack would eat together with vodka [normal people eat it with BEER]

Vodka with Pickled cucumber. Beer with Lays, or Cuttlefish or Squid)) How drink vodka with fish? :1orglaugh

https://www.utkonos.ru/resample/450x...4/3044723H.jpg
https://cdn.lifehacker.ru/wp-content...7-1024x512.png
http://nalivali.ru/wp-content/upload...u-recept-4.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22049847)
and here are drifting Saudis:


and here are casual armed Russians drivers that only sometimes do drift:


klinton 10-25-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22049863)
How so? Is that Mohamed not living in his country that I would call him a traitor?

because usually the people from the same category that perceive STATE and NATION over INDIVIDUAL are the same people that are first to throw the stone at foreigners,outsiders, inner thinkers and so on.

I dont think that you are that stupid that I had to explain it to you.

bns666 10-25-2017 12:58 PM

oh can't wait to visit saudi arabia :)

mineistaken 10-25-2017 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22049933)
because usually the people from the same category that perceive STATE and NATION over INDIVIDUAL are the same people that are first to throw the stone at foreigners,outsiders, inner thinkers and so on.

I dont think that you are that stupid that I had to explain it to you.

I do not perceive nation or state over individual.
I simply believe that leaving your country is same (on lower level because family is more important) as abandoning your family (I do not mean leaving your parents house, I mean literally abandoning family).

I assume you would disrespect a person abandoning his family. So this is how I feel about migrants betraying their own country.


And I asked for explanation why would I see that Mohamad as a traitor, not this, to be clear.

klinton 10-25-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 22050021)
I do not perceive nation or state over individual.
I simply believe that leaving your country is same (on lower level because family is more important) as abandoning your family .

These two phrases are mutually contradictory.

pimpmaster9000 10-25-2017 03:40 PM

A "country" is an abstract concept, imaginary lines separate them and patriotism is brainwash...one should love ALL humans not just a certain group...nobody is a traitor if he crosses hypocrite imaginary lines that all have crossed since the beginning of time...

Oh and the right wing sucks dick...

row_adrian 10-26-2017 01:55 AM

Interesting post. I've just read few days ago he is planning to build a new entire city in the desert. They want to build a bridge over the the red sea to merge Saudi Arabia to Africa.

Sarn 10-26-2017 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22050123)
A "country" is an abstract concept, imaginary lines separate them and patriotism is brainwash...one should love ALL humans not just a certain group...nobody is a traitor if he crosses hypocrite imaginary lines that all have crossed since the beginning of time...

https://en.wikivet.net/Feline_Territorial_Behaviour

DraX 10-26-2017 05:05 AM

Tactical move, while the Islam world continue to spread to Europe and Saudi's continue investing in mosques on the same land...:2 cents:

pimpmaster9000 10-26-2017 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22050663)
Tactical move, while the Islam world continue to spread to Europe and Saudi's continue investing in mosques on the same land...:2 cents:

and churches would be built in saudi...there is nothing wrong with moderate muslims...the entire middle east used to be moderate...

j3rkules 10-26-2017 05:23 AM

Nevermind...

Sarn 10-26-2017 05:53 AM

moderate muslims - not exist.
or you Muslim or traitor of Islam ))
http://drrichswier.com/wp-content/up...ate-muslim.jpg
https://nteb-mudflowermedia.netdna-s...iddle-east.jpg

klinton 10-26-2017 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050699)

do sober Russians exist, or it is also oxymoron ?

https://www.projectlooksharp.org/ass...rce/stalin.png

stop spreading hate comrade !

pimpmaster9000 10-26-2017 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050699)
moderate muslims - not exist.
or you Muslim or traitor of Islam ))

how would you know this?

I know because I have been to many islamic countries, seen christian churches in said islamic countries and also lived in one for 2 years...there are 100-s of millions of non-muslims living in 50 islamic countries...if non muslims were "Traitors" how do you explain the thousands of christian churches and the 100-s of millions of non muslims living there...there seems to be a huge discrepancy between reality and what you write...

Sarn 10-26-2017 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22050705)
I know because I have been to many islamic countries, seen christian churches in said islamic countries and also lived in one for 2 years...

In Istanbul? (Constantinople) ))). And why you do not stay live in the Islamic country?

pimpmaster9000 10-26-2017 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050717)
In Istanbul? (Constantinople) ))). And why you do not stay live in the Islamic country?

I have been to istanbul like 10x they are normal people like you and me...I lived in an islamic country for 2 years it was no problem at all...

where have you been that is islamic? or is your claim to fame the same as paul markhams, you googled it? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 10-26-2017 07:02 AM

What they call tolerance we might not feel the same.

pimpmaster9000 10-26-2017 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22050769)
What they call tolerance we might not feel the same.

yes you are a racist and you would not feel the same no matter what...oh and you have never even been to an islamic country in your life how would you know? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 10-26-2017 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22050733)
I have been to istanbul like 10x they are normal people like you and me...I lived in an islamic country for 2 years it was no problem at all...

where have you been that is islamic? or is your claim to fame the same as paul markhams, you googled it? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Dont bother. Sarn gets paid 5 RUB per 100 words to spread KGB bullshit propaganda (SUBVERSION + DISINFORMATION) to divide and conquer, like they say.

achievement so far: used Zhiguli car and possibility to spend amazing 7 days on SunnyBitchBitch Bulgaria. still 7800 posts more needed.

https://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/ima...1056779487.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VniANGEve4...1aerspa011.jpg

шсдфтчуыйкьжющхв
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Sarn 10-26-2017 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22050733)
I have been to istanbul like 10x they are normal people like you and me...I lived in an islamic country for 2 years it was no problem at all...

where have you been that is islamic? or is your claim to fame the same as paul markhams, you googled it? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I am not talking some people's bad or good, bad peoples enough everywhere. I mean Constantinople not exist now, it is Istanbul now. And in London the same, in Moscowbad too. Why do you not stay live in the Islamic country?

Muhammed and Amelia are now the most-popular boys' and girls' names in London reveals new survey of parental picks
Muhammed and Amelia most popular baby names in London | Daily Mail Online

Sarn 10-26-2017 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22050769)
What they call tolerance we might not feel the same.

It is named = Useful idiots

klinton 10-26-2017 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050829)
Muhammed and Amelia are now the most-popular boys' and girls' names in London reveals new survey of parental picks
Muhammed and Amelia most popular baby names in London | Daily Mail Online

"islam" or "muslim" (dont remember) means surrendered to Gods will...doesnt sound too reasonable and with common sense IMO. I dislike all religions actually (that dont come from inside of your inner self), they produce brainless sheep, nothing more. I think that you should know better Comrade what Marx said about religions, and what kind of religion he invented :)

Amelia is a beautiful name !

klinton 10-26-2017 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050837)
It is named = Useful idiots

ho-ho-ho , comrade, you know it all !!!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink:

klinton 10-26-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050829)
I mean Constantinople not exist now, it is Istanbul now.

https://xaben.com/blog/wp-content/up...man.jpg?x76095

Sarn 10-26-2017 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22050849)
"islam" or "muslim" (dont remember) means surrendered to Gods will...doesnt sound too reasonable and with common sense IMO. I dislike all religions actually (that dont come from inside of your inner self), they produce brainless sheep, nothing more. I think that you should know better Comrade what Marx said about religions, and what kind of religion he invented :)
Amelia is a beautiful name !

Marx said - religion it is opium for people
(opium - pain relief medication in Marx time)
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22050853)
ho-ho-ho , comrade, you know it all !!!
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:winkwink:

be a tolerant comrade:1orglaugh be useful :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22050857)

:1orglaugh

klinton 10-26-2017 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050879)
Marx said - religion it is opium for people
(opium - pain relief medication in Marx time)

be a tolerant comrade:1orglaugh be useful :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

comrade, for a Zhiguli from 1987 I will even conquer Qatar

Sarn 10-26-2017 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22050917)
comrade, for a Zhiguli from 1987 I will even conquer Qatar

Ok comrade to prepare your combat horse!

klinton 10-26-2017 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22050961)
Ok comrade to prepare your combat horse!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Its prepared and waiting :) need to feed it 3 times per day



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://londynek.net/image/jdnews-age...g?t=1455544085

Sarn 10-26-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22051027)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Its prepared and waiting :) need to feed it 3 times per day



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://londynek.net/image/jdnews-age...g?t=1455544085

pray between to feed horse regular :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 10-26-2017 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22051073)
pray between to feed horse regular :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.focus.pl/uploads/media/de...a7893c3b8.jpeg

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Porn Nerd 10-26-2017 10:40 AM

So women will not be raped or beheaded for not wearing the head gear?
Stop that shit THEN I will believe the sand monkeys.

Sarn 10-26-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22051079)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Freedom for Poland!!!
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22051091)
So women will not be raped or beheaded for not wearing the head gear?
Stop that shit THEN I will believe the sand monkeys.

:1orglaugh

Dead 10-27-2017 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22049925)
Need help them comrade!




That was a great vid, this one amazed me as I have driven to the top of this mountain same road...14,000 Feet no rails at 80 percent of the turns

pimpmaster9000 10-27-2017 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22051091)
So women will not be raped or beheaded for not wearing the head gear?
Stop that shit THEN I will believe the sand monkeys.

and when 200.000 men/year do not get gay raped in US gov buildings my trust towards the west will increase significantly :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

magusdaex 10-27-2017 11:25 PM

thank Jesus


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