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onwebcam 10-10-2017 03:22 PM

NFL to make it a rule to stand during Anthem
 
Starting fucking with peoples money your feelings don't matter any more.

NFL head Goodell: 'Everyone should stand for the national anthem' | TheHill

brassmonkey 10-10-2017 03:27 PM

new china??? you do not have to pledge! you want daily computer monitoring added to that?? a take a piss and shit tax?? breathing tax?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Fire NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 03:30 PM

The NFL players Union will still have a vote about if a player can be punished
for violation.

Worst of all the players could call a strike and shut the while shit down.

brassmonkey 10-10-2017 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22031969)
The NFL players Union will still have a vote about if a player can be punished
for violation.

Worst of all the players could call a strike and shut the while shit down.

yep and we know holds the majority of the players :winkwink: that's why he is just blowing hot air

onwebcam 10-10-2017 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22031969)
The NFL players Union will still have a vote about if a player can be punished
for violation.

Worst of all the players could call a strike and shut the while shit down.

They are now ranked the least favorite sport of all Pro and college sports. They could strike if they wish to make matters worse. My guess is owners will start firing them before they ruin entire league.

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 03:34 PM

Besides that, it cost money to "fire" a player; they have contracts with payment clauses.

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031973)
They are now ranked the least favorite sport of all Pro and college sports. They could strike if they wish to make matters worse. My guess is owner will start firing them before they ruin entire league.

Fuck that stupid poll; they are making more money than ever.

:1orglaugh

onwebcam 10-10-2017 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22031977)
Fuck that stupid poll; they are making more money than ever.

:1orglaugh

TV Ratings: ‘Monday Night Football’ Hits Season Low As Vikings Squeak Past Bears | Deadline

How do you think that?

brassmonkey 10-10-2017 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031973)
They are now ranked the least favorite sport of all Pro and college sports. They could strike if they wish to make matters worse. My guess is owners will start firing them before they ruin entire league.

it's bullshit! people still have season tickets! people still buy all the tickets(depends on the team) spread that alt right shit somewhere else :2 cents::2 cents:

RedFred 10-10-2017 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031973)
They are now ranked the least favorite sport of all Pro and college sports. They could strike if they wish to make matters worse. My guess is owners will start firing them before they ruin entire league.

You know, you very well could be the dumbest person on the internet.

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 03:45 PM

Nobody is going to cancel ESPN because all sports are on ESPN; not just football

Look at this list : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rts_properties

The NFL is not going to lose any money behind this shit because plenty of people
want to buy the tickets from the boycotters.

Advertiser who pull out will lose market share; they buy those ads because it improves
their sales.

Millions will keep watching football, the disgruntled people are the loudest but not the majority of fans.

:2 cents:

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031979)

You're picking cherries and dreaming.

From the same article :

Quote:

A sliver of a silver lining can be found for the NFL and ESPN in that last night?s game was up 8% in MM ratings from the last year?s Week 5 matchup between Tampa Bay and Carolina. With the help of strong ratings from those always-well-watched Dallas Cowboys, MNF is holding steady with last year?s hard-hit season with a 5% uptick.

Bladewire 10-10-2017 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031973)
They are now ranked the least favorite sport of all Pro and college sports.

Why are you lying Onwebcam / Matt 26z? You really do hate America & American culture.

Matt 26z 10-10-2017 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22031969)

Worst of all the players could call a strike and shut the while shit down.

You are delusional if you think NFL players will strike over having to stand.

They strike over money issues.

onwebcam 10-10-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22031995)
Why are you lying Onwebcam / Matt 26z?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...line/23236112/

Bladewire 10-10-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22032003)

You said you don't believe in polls, now you say polls prove the NFL sucks, so which is it? You can't have it both ways.

onwebcam 10-10-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22032005)
You said you don't believe in polls, now you say polls prove the NFL sucks, so which is it? You can't have it both ways.

I look at poll demographics. If the demographic is swayed one way or another then it's a rigged poll. It's not as if they just did one poll. They do them monthly... So it's safe to assume poll over poll results are a telling sign.

pimpmaster9000 10-10-2017 04:27 PM

A little bit of freedom got uninstalled from the NFL today...respectful peaceful protest is a no no...

Speigelau 10-10-2017 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22031989)
Nobody is going to cancel ESPN because all sports are on ESPN; not just football

Look at this list : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rts_properties

The NFL is not going to lose any money behind this shit because plenty of people
want to buy the tickets from the boycotters.

Advertiser who pull out will lose market share; they buy those ads because it improves
their sales.

Millions will keep watching football, the disgruntled people are the loudest but not the majority of fans.

:2 cents:

Advertisers pay rates based on ratings and base their ROI on an expected number of eyeballs who view the ads. When ratings drop dramatically, as they have the first few weeks of this season, advertisers don't get the return they expect and many have pulled back on their spending.

Game ticket sales are only a small fraction of total NFL revenue, with the bulk of it coming from their TV rights deal with Espn and the major networks. When the TV networks can't sell advertising at the rates they need to get an ROI on the millions they are paying the NFL, they start complaining. Unsatisfied networks can have a severe impact on the NFL when it comes time to renegotiate a new TV deal.

4 months ago Espn laid off 100 employees. Many blamed the firings on their NFL deal as they had drastically overpaid and the big ratings dip of last year meant Espn had to lower it's advertising rates. I've never seen baseball ratings higher than the NFL, it happened last week.

Roger Goodell has said in the past players have a right to express their feelings during the national anthem. Now that it has affected the NFL's pocketbook, he's demanding they stand during the national anthem. Nice double standard.

thommy 10-10-2017 04:35 PM

if they would not stand for the matter of protest against mexico or NK nobody would mind that and trump would praise them. but the problem is they protest against trump and in that case it does matter.

so trump did all that people are not allowed to protest against him - what approves he is at the same level as erdogan and kim.

onwebcam 10-10-2017 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22032037)
if they would not stand for the matter of protest against mexico or NK nobody would mind that and trump would praise them. but the problem is they protest against trump and in that case it does matter.

so trump did all that people are not allowed to protest against him - what approves he is at the same level as erdogan and kim.

I thought the protest was about black lives mattering?

Bladewire 10-10-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22032037)
if they would not stand for the matter of protest against mexico or NK nobody would mind that and trump would praise them. but the problem is they protest against trump and in that case it does matter.

so trump did all that people are not allowed to protest against him - what approves he is at the same level as erdogan and kim.

70% of NFL players are black and Trump is an insecure morbidly obese 71 year old racist.

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22032001)
You are delusional if you think NFL players will strike over having to stand.

They strike over money issues.

You are stupid to think that my listing their options means I endorse any of them.

BTW : Go burn a cross some where.

:1orglaugh

Bladewire 10-10-2017 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22032003)

From your article: "According to a poll by the right-leaning Winston Group"

Funny how Onwebcam / Matt 26z clam up when faced with facts he gohsts his own thread :1orglaugh Funny how he said he doesn't believe in polls they're all fake, then quotes a right leaning poll to support his delusion :1orglaugh

TheDynasty 10-10-2017 05:32 PM

oh noossss

Steve Rupe 10-10-2017 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22032037)
if they would not stand for the matter of protest against mexico or NK nobody would mind that and trump would praise them. but the problem is they protest against trump and in that case it does matter.

so trump did all that people are not allowed to protest against him - what approves he is at the same level as erdogan and kim.

What ever gave you the idea their kneeling is against Trump?

onwebcam 10-10-2017 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22032067)
From your article: "According to a poll by the right-leaning Winston Group"

Funny how Onwebcam / Matt 26z clam up when faced with facts he gohsts his own thread :1orglaugh Funny how he said he doesn't believe in polls they're all fake, then quotes a right leaning poll to support his delusion :1orglaugh

Or Matt and I just ignore your fake nick ramblings.

Whether they are left or right leaning doesn't matter here. They were doing the poll before this nonsense started.

blackmonsters 10-10-2017 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe (Post 22032085)
What ever gave you the idea their kneeling is against Trump?

Because there was only about 10 protesters in the entire NFL until Trump called them "sons of bitches".
Now there are 10 times more taking a knee to protest Trump's call for them to be fired.

You know, a few guys took a knee to protest something and everybody got over it for more
than a year already.
Then Trump gets everything boiling over it.
He is really making America an unhappy place.

Trump can't walk past a pile of shit without stirring it up with his tongue.

:2 cents:

Bladewire 10-10-2017 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22032089)
Or Matt and I just ignore your fake nick ramblings.

Whether they are left or right leaning doesn't matter here. They were doing the poll before this nonsense started.

So now you believe in polls?

Why is it so difficult for you to answer simple questions like have you applied for American citizenship yet?

You like to ramble on about conspiracies and make judgements while trying to be a ghost at the same time. Cowardly

onwebcam 10-10-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22032103)
So now you believe in polls?

Why is it so difficult for you to answer simple questions like have you applied for American citizenship yet?

I already answered your question. You just ignored or couldn't comprehend it as usual.

Bladewire 10-10-2017 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22032105)
I already answered your question. You just ignored it as usual.

What's the answer? Have you applied for American citizenship yet?

onwebcam 10-10-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22032107)
What's the answer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22032019)
I look at poll demographics. If the demographic is swayed one way or another then it's a rigged poll. It's not as if they just did one poll. They do them monthly... So it's safe to assume poll over poll results are a telling sign.

.............

Bladewire 10-10-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22032109)
.............

What's the answer? Have you applied for American citizenship yet? That's the question you refuse to answer.

RandyRandy 10-10-2017 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22031989)
The NFL is not going to lose any money behind this shit because plenty of people
want to buy the tickets from the boycotters.


I dont know about the rest of the country, but you can't give away tickets to the Jets and Giants in New York.

DBS.US 10-10-2017 08:15 PM

NFL = No Fucking Fans

brassmonkey 10-10-2017 08:28 PM

https://i.imgur.com/RpWt9Fl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AG7VKZQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4caPwGA.jpg

Phoenix 10-10-2017 09:39 PM

they are paid performers...on a stage owned by their boss..or those connected to their boss.

rules are rules

brassmonkey 10-10-2017 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22032257)
they are paid performers...on a stage owned by their boss..or those connected to their boss.

rules are rules

the anthem is not part of the game. some people don't pledge it's their right. i want him to jump on this you have to stand. the court case will be fun! trump will put on his tina turner hair patch and say to hell with you assholes! over and over

Phoenix 10-10-2017 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22032267)
the anthem is not part of the game. some people don't pledge it's their right. i want him to jump on this you have to stand. the court case will be fun! trump will put on his tina turner hair patch and say to hell with you assholes! over and over

it is part of the game if the people who own the game say it is.

it is not a right to be paid big money to play with a ball with your friends

it is a job...part of the job is being on stage and being role model..to help sell whatever the league wants to sell

puriod

brassmonkey 10-10-2017 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22032321)
it is part of the game if the people who own the game say it is.

it is not a right to be paid big money to play with a ball with your friends

it is a job...part of the job is being on stage and being role model..to help sell whatever the league wants to sell

puriod

are you a fucking communist??? there is no kickoff during the pledge numb nutz! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CarlosTheGaucho 10-11-2017 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22032035)
Advertisers pay rates based on ratings and base their ROI on an expected number of eyeballs who view the ads. When ratings drop dramatically, as they have the first few weeks of this season, advertisers don't get the return they expect and many have pulled back on their spending.

Game ticket sales are only a small fraction of total NFL revenue, with the bulk of it coming from their TV rights deal with Espn and the major networks. When the TV networks can't sell advertising at the rates they need to get an ROI on the millions they are paying the NFL, they start complaining. Unsatisfied networks can have a severe impact on the NFL when it comes time to renegotiate a new TV deal.

4 months ago Espn laid off 100 employees. Many blamed the firings on their NFL deal as they had drastically overpaid and the big ratings dip of last year meant Espn had to lower it's advertising rates. I've never seen baseball ratings higher than the NFL, it happened last week.

Roger Goodell has said in the past players have a right to express their feelings during the national anthem. Now that it has affected the NFL's pocketbook, he's demanding they stand during the national anthem. Nice double standard.

:2 cents:

It's about money, alienating a big part of your audience can't reflect well on the viewership, and with lower ratings the ad rates need to go down as well. It's not about anyone's "feelings" or political BS.

Phoenix 10-11-2017 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22032333)
are you a fucking communist??? there is no kickoff during the pledge numb nutz! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I have no idea what you are talking about.
I take comfort in the fact that many people you engage with have no idea what you are talking about.

brassmonkey 10-11-2017 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22032379)
I have no idea what you are talking about.
I take comfort in the fact that many people you engage with have no idea what you are talking about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22032321)
it is part of the game if the people who own the game say it is.

it is not a right to be paid big money to play with a ball with your friends

it is a job...part of the job is being on stage and being role model..to help sell whatever the league wants to sell

puriod

really?? puriod??? <-------- wtf??? :helpme:helpme:helpme peaceful protest is not part of being a role model??? turning back on my filter jeezus

pimpmaster9000 10-11-2017 02:57 AM

https://cdn2.img.sputniknews.com/ima...1030845828.jpg

Matt 26z 10-11-2017 03:43 AM

The media is now so desperate for an unjustified cop on black killing that they are blatantly lying about the killing of Patrick Harmon in Utah.

They are framing it out as police murder as Harmon was running away. The fact is that Harmon ran, pulled a knife and told cops that he was going to cut them with it and turned towards them with the knife.

This is the kind of thing that Thug Lives Matter supports now and what the libtard media is willing to lie about.

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/patrick...hooting-video/

Phoenix 10-11-2017 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22032401)
really?? puriod??? <-------- wtf??? :helpme:helpme:helpme peaceful protest is not part of being a role model??? turning back on my filter jeezus

period...puriod was a jest at the illiterate people trying to dictate what a billionaire ownership should allow on their field

MrBottomTooth 10-11-2017 05:52 AM

Our employees can't engage in peaceful protest while on the job either. If they don't like it they can quit, or go protest on their own time.

BlackCrayon 10-11-2017 06:12 AM

what happens if they just don't listen to this rule? are they going to fire them? I highly doubt it. i would think if anything all this attention is good for ratings.

NewNick 10-11-2017 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22032487)
The media is now so desperate for an unjustified cop on black killing that they are blatantly lying about the killing of Patrick Harmon in Utah.

They are framing it out as police murder as Harmon was running away. The fact is that Harmon ran, pulled a knife and told cops that he was going to cut them with it and turned towards them with the knife.

This is the kind of thing that Thug Lives Matter supports now and what the libtard media is willing to lie about.

https://bluelivesmatter.blue/patrick...hooting-video/

So the cop shoots him 3 times as he is running away.

I watched it, and that is what happened.

Paul Markham 10-11-2017 06:35 AM

So if half the team take the knee, they won't play?

What if they protest over their freedom of speech and all take the knee?


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