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Matt 26z 10-09-2017 08:40 PM

Las Vegas official narrative falling apart -- Government now drastically altering the story
 
First the police said that the security guard was a hero who stopped the massacre by engaging with Paddock. Now they are saying Paddock shot the guy a full six minutes before the massacre started. They have no reason as to why he stopped when he did.

They also changed the day he checked into the hotel to the date that "conspiracy theorists" identified days ago.

There's some graphic material here, so I won't post the images directly. Odd that he supposedly killed himself with a small revolver shot to the chest, that revolver ends up over his head, his foot is under another gun set up and he is laying on a rifle.
https://imgur.com/a/lbaZK


Something very serious went down in that hotel room that they are not telling us. Someone is obviously trying to fashion a cover story around those events.

I think this guy was CIA and something went wrong.

crockett 10-09-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22031065)
First the police said that the security guard was a hero who stopped the massacre by engaging with Paddock. Now they are saying Paddock shot the guy a full six minutes before the massacre started. They have no reason as to why he stopped when he did.

They also changed the day he checked into the hotel to the date that "conspiracy theorists" identified days ago.

There's some graphic material here, so I won't post the images directly. Odd that he supposedly killed himself with a small revolver shot to the chest, that revolver ends up over his head, his foot is under another gun set up and he is laying on a rifle.
https://imgur.com/a/lbaZK


Something very serious went down in that hotel room that they are not telling us. Someone is obviously trying to fashion a cover story around those events.

I think this guy was CIA and something went wrong.


Hey nutbag.. face the fact.. He was just like you a lunatic conspiracy nutter. Quit trying to deflect now that we know he was just like you. Seek help before you go off the deep end as well..

Steve Rupe 10-09-2017 09:34 PM

There is not any narrative falling apart. Initial reports are always wrong even official reports but particularly media reports. Eventually it will all get sorted out to the best that it can be sorted out. Almost always in most events there are unanswered questions and this is what people like you and those like you have a field day with.

onwebcam 10-09-2017 10:10 PM

So the security guard was knocking on his door for what reason? Is he a foreseer?

crockett 10-09-2017 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031135)
So the security guard was knocking on his door for what reason? Is he a foreseer?

He was up there to check out a open door alarm and they think Paddock saw the guy on his camera and shot him..

According to Lombardo, Jesus Campos went to Paddock's floor to investigate an open door alarm — which was not in Paddock's room — just before the shooting unfolded. Investigators believe Paddock saw Campos on his security camera system. Paddock fired at Campos six minutes before he turned his rifle on the outdoor crowd, killing 58 people and wounding more than 450 others. Campos then radioed for police, who accosted Paddock in his hotel room where he committed suicide.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-c...sacre-sheriff/

That explains how they got to his room so fast.

onwebcam 10-09-2017 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22031139)
He was up there to check out a open door alarm and they think Paddock saw the guy on his camera and shot him..

According to Lombardo, Jesus Campos went to Paddock's floor to investigate an open door alarm — which was not in Paddock's room — just before the shooting unfolded. Investigators believe Paddock saw Campos on his security camera system. Paddock fired at Campos six minutes before he turned his rifle on the outdoor crowd, killing 58 people and wounding more than 450 others. Campos then radioed for police, who accosted Paddock in his hotel room where he committed suicide.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jesus-c...sacre-sheriff/

That explains how they got to his room so fast.

Fast? They didn't get there until over an hour later...

Meanwhile they were swat teaming other hotels?



What's the body board for? Do all swat teams carry those around? Or are they there to extract someone on it?

Someone got there fast alright. So they could stage the scene.

The Australian staying in the room next to him said "they" shot a security guard on my floor. The US media have pretty much made his story disappear.

NewNick 10-09-2017 10:46 PM

Enlighten me guys, why are the 2 biggest Trump loons on this board desperate for this to be a fabulous new conspiracy to salivate over ?

Is “false flag to take away our guns” too obvious ?

Or was it all in Hillary’s emails ???

Rochard 10-09-2017 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22031065)
First the police said that the security guard was a hero who stopped the massacre by engaging with Paddock. Now they are saying Paddock shot the guy a full six minutes before the massacre started. They have no reason as to why he stopped when he did.

They also changed the day he checked into the hotel to the date that "conspiracy theorists" identified days ago.

There's some graphic material here, so I won't post the images directly. Odd that he supposedly killed himself with a small revolver shot to the chest, that revolver ends up over his head, his foot is under another gun set up and he is laying on a rifle.
https://imgur.com/a/lbaZK


Something very serious went down in that hotel room that they are not telling us. Someone is obviously trying to fashion a cover story around those events.

I think this guy was CIA and something went wrong.

You keep trying.

Phoenix 10-10-2017 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031141)
Fast? They didn't get there until over an hour later...

Meanwhile they were swat teaming other hotels?



What's the body board for? Do all swat teams carry those around? Or are they there to extract someone on it?

Someone got there fast alright. So they could stage the scene.

The Australian staying in the room next to him said "they" shot a security guard on my floor. The US media have pretty much made his story disappear.

During the event...there was a report a woman was shot and killed by police in the Tropicana...headshot. However it was a report from a police scanner....so..could be false

Phoenix 10-10-2017 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22031065)
First the police said that the security guard was a hero who stopped the massacre by engaging with Paddock. Now they are saying Paddock shot the guy a full six minutes before the massacre started. They have no reason as to why he stopped when he did.

They also changed the day he checked into the hotel to the date that "conspiracy theorists" identified days ago.

There's some graphic material here, so I won't post the images directly. Odd that he supposedly killed himself with a small revolver shot to the chest, that revolver ends up over his head, his foot is under another gun set up and he is laying on a rifle.
https://imgur.com/a/lbaZK


Something very serious went down in that hotel room that they are not telling us. Someone is obviously trying to fashion a cover story around those events.

I think this guy was CIA and something went wrong.

Apparently he filmed himself doing it. So there is no other story to be told.
He did it...he was crazy as hell.

Try not to over think it...crazy people are hard to understand.

With all the panic and commotion it is understandable that mistaken reports came out. Police made a few mistakes.
I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong...but he filmed himself shooting...sooooo

NewNick 10-10-2017 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22031195)
I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong...but he filmed himself shooting...sooooo

That would be some gun deal.

Are gun deals always so fatal ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why are you all so determined to make shit up.

A loon lost the plot.

And because y'all think its really cool to be armed to the teeth lots of innocent people died.

Thats It.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Phoenix 10-10-2017 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22031225)
That would be some gun deal.

Are gun deals always so fatal ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why are you all so determined to make shit up.

A loon lost the plot.

And because y'all think its really cool to be armed to the teeth lots of innocent people died.

Thats It.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Are you suggesting i made this theory up? It was one of the theories floating around the first day and after. In case you are unable to read in your zeal to try and use :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh to try and show your intellect, I will explain to you in an easier to understand method.

I no make this up..i say someone had idea it is bad gun deal..you understand now? Video shows not bag gun deal. you eat more pizza now

I tried to keep it to short and simple sentences so you didn't get lost while reading along. Sorry i included a 3 syllable word. If you read the blue sentence a few times you will eventually clue in.
Discussion of events should be encouraged, mocking said discussions is laughable, as well pushing false narratives should be discouraged. I clearly stated that this theory was put to rest already, you seemed to skip over that part in a hurry to try and get in a zinger..i hope you didn't spill your diet soda drink on your pizza/poptarts/pizza while straining to sit forward so your arms could reach your keyboard.

NewNick 10-10-2017 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22031233)
Are you suggesting i made this theory up? It was one of the theories floating around the first day and after. In case you are unable to read in your zeal to try and use :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh to try and show your intellect, I will explain to you in an easier to understand method.

I no make this up..i say someone had idea it is bad gun deal..you understand now? Video shows not bag gun deal. you eat more pizza now

I tried to keep it to short and simple sentences so you didn't get lost while reading along. Sorry i included a 3 syllable word. If you read the blue sentence a few times you will eventually clue in.
Discussion of events should be encouraged, mocking said discussions is laughable, as well pushing false narratives should be discouraged. I clearly stated that this theory was put to rest already, you seemed to skip over that part in a hurry to try and get in a zinger..i hope you didn't spill your diet soda drink on your pizza/poptarts/pizza while straining to sit forward so your arms could reach your keyboard.



Your actual words :

"I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong"

Perhaps you meant something else.

Phoenix 10-10-2017 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22031241)
Your actual words :

"I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong"

Perhaps you meant something else.

was..meaning past tense....then in the last sentence

he filmed himself shooting...so ....

Perhaps you should troll someone else.

What i actually wrote
"Apparently he filmed himself doing it. So there is no other story to be told.
He did it...he was crazy as hell.

Try not to over think it...crazy people are hard to understand.

With all the panic and commotion it is understandable that mistaken reports came out. Police made a few mistakes.
I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong...but he filmed himself shooting...sooooo "


What you read "I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong"

Words you don't understand the meaning or use of. "was"

onwebcam 10-10-2017 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22031247)

he filmed himself shooting...so ....

There's zero mention of this since like the first day or 2. He might have setup a cam outside his door but if he did in fact video himself the entire time wouldn't that continue to be mentioned? Such as "We are reviewing the footage and will give details"

As far as police making a simple timeline mistake.. Bullshit, they sold the security guard being shot as heroism and now it's in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The guard was shot 6 minutes before and none of the other security noticed? He didn't have a phone or walkie? They can notice a door ajar but not one of their own getting gunned down in the hallway? They just let him lay there to bleed out for over an hour while they searched floor to floor? But I thought the alarm alerted them to the floor and that's how they found him?

Also what would be the point in him shooting the guard to begin with? Couldn't he have just waited until he was gone? If the door ajar alarm wasn't his door then why was the guard even at HIS door?


BULLSHIT They are covering something up and changing the story as questions arise.

Rochard 10-10-2017 07:42 AM

I had the news on just now while eating breakfast - I haven't really watched the news in the past week or so - and it seems this now is the case.

And?

It means as the investigation continues and they are putting together a timeline. All we knew before was that the shooter engaged the security guard. The security guard was alerted to his room (or a nearby room) by an open door alarm. The gunman most likely saw the security guard on his cameras, assumed the worst, and opened fire.

See not seeing anything out of the ordinary here.

NewNick 10-10-2017 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 22031247)
was..meaning past tense....then in the last sentence

he filmed himself shooting...so ....

Perhaps you should troll someone else.

What i actually wrote
"Apparently he filmed himself doing it. So there is no other story to be told.
He did it...he was crazy as hell.

Try not to over think it...crazy people are hard to understand.

With all the panic and commotion it is understandable that mistaken reports came out. Police made a few mistakes.
I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong...but he filmed himself shooting...sooooo "


What you read "I was interested in the theory that it was a gun deal gone wrong"

Words you don't understand the meaning or use of. "was"

I understand perfectly past tense, and therefore you were interested in the theory at some time.

Correct ?

So perhaps it might be you that is over thinking it.

onwebcam 10-10-2017 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22031427)
I had the news on just now while eating breakfast - I haven't really watched the news in the past week or so - and it seems this now is the case.

And?

It means as the investigation continues and they are putting together a timeline. All we knew before was that the shooter engaged the security guard. The security guard was alerted to his room (or a nearby room) by an open door alarm. The gunman most likely saw the security guard on his cameras, assumed the worst, and opened fire.

See not seeing anything out of the ordinary here.

It changes their entire story.... A security guard getting shot 6 minutes before the actual event isn't " nothing to see here" especially when they supposedly didn't discover where he was until over an hour later.

NewNick 10-10-2017 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031441)
It changes their entire story....

Ffs the two main Trumptards on this board are the two looking for a conspiracy.........

The two that defend Trump to the hilt whatever he does, tweets, or says, are the two who cannot accept that a crazy guy shot all of those people.

You could not make it up.

gnawledge 10-10-2017 08:37 AM

I'm all up for conspiracies because it just is good for occupying time. But, I find it hard to believe it is anyone other than a single piece of shit murderer don't the killing. Literally the guy had something wrong with him. Who knows. But organized government assassin for gun control?

crockett 10-10-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031441)
It changes their entire story.... A security guard getting shot 6 minutes before the actual event isn't " nothing to see here" especially when they supposedly didn't discover where he was until over an hour later.

Dude you are so fucking full of shit. The original timeline shows he started shooting at 10:05 at the crowd.

10:15 p.m.: Paddock stops shooting out the window.

The 1st officers arrived on his floor @ 10:17 p.m

Again citing police radio, The New York Times said officers were right outside Paddock's hotel room at 10:24 p.m., 16 minutes after the shooting began.

One message said: "I'm on the 32nd floor. The room is going to be 135."

Another said: "It's room 135 on the 32nd floor. I need the SWAT."

It would be almost another hour, however, until officers would break into Paddock's room.


They requested to breach his door but were told to wait for the Swat team, because he had stopped shooting.. Paddock had already stopped shooting out the window by the time the officers got to his floor, only 11-15 minutes after he started shooting. He wasn't shooting anymore it's not like he kept shooting for an hour so quit trying to mislead and make it sound worse just to fit your conspiracy narrative.

Las Vegas shooting: Timeline shows exactly how massacre unfolded - Business Insider

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you, that you will bend and twist everything in order to create some fantasy narrative?

pimpmaster9000 10-10-2017 08:54 AM

It was mexican Muslims! The disgusting PC media is covering it up!

onwebcam 10-10-2017 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22031509)
Dude you are so fucking full of shit. The original timeline shows he started shooting at 10:05 at the crowd.

10:15 p.m.: Paddock stops shooting out the window.

The 1st officers arrived on his floor @ 10:17 p.m

Again citing police radio, The New York Times said officers were right outside Paddock's hotel room at 10:24 p.m., 16 minutes after the shooting began.

One message said: "I'm on the 32nd floor. The room is going to be 135."

Another said: "It's room 135 on the 32nd floor. I need the SWAT."

It would be almost another hour, however, until officers would break into Paddock's room.


They requested to breach his door but were told to wait for the Swat team, because he had stopped shooting.. Paddock had already stopped shooting out the window by the time the officers got to his floor, only 11-15 minutes after he started shooting. He wasn't shooting anymore it's not like he kept shooting for an hour so quit trying to mislead and make it sound worse just to fit your conspiracy narrative.

Las Vegas shooting: Timeline shows exactly how massacre unfolded - Business Insider

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you, that you will bend and twist everything in order to create some fantasy narrative?

They didn't breach for an hour later. Supposedly because he blocked a fire door. It still doesn't answer the question about the security guard. Supposedly the police didn't know about him until the got to the floor. BUT supposedly security knew.. So why didn't security alert police? And again, why was the security guard even at his door? It just doesn't add up..

crockett 10-10-2017 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031531)
They didn't breach for an hour later. Supposedly because he blocked a fire door. It still doesn't answer the question about the security guard. Supposedly the police didn't know about him until the got to the floor. BUT supposedly security knew.. So why didn't security alert police? And again, why was the security guard even at his door? It just doesn't add up..

You just answered your own question. The security guard was up there to check a door alarm. You just said the fire door was blocked.. The shooter obviously tripped the alarm when he blocked the fire door..

He was likely ready to go then he tripped the alarm.. The guard probably spooked him and screwed up his escape plan.

He started his shooting and after 3 clips he stopped. He either realized he was completely screwed because the cops were already there and he couldn't escape or he realized what he was doing and stopped..

The above is way more likely than your conspiracy theories..

As for why the cops didn't know of the security guard, call it the fog of war. 911 would of been having shit loads of calls, most likely the only people who knew of the security guard was the security team and they probably didn't even know exactly what happened.

The cops on the sceen were probably being told lots of conflicting stories by various people..

C H R I S 10-10-2017 10:01 AM

These nutbag conspiracy theories are disrespectful to the victims and the victims families.

astronaut x 10-10-2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22031225)
Why are you all so determined to make shit up.

Because... infowars.

Paul Markham 10-10-2017 10:05 AM

It was Trump and he should be impeached.

incredibleworkethic 10-10-2017 10:08 AM

We are busy thinking of plot twists, RIP everyone involved no doubt. This is GFY where business is done in the adult industry. Let's get back to work.

astronaut x 10-10-2017 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031531)
They didn't breach for an hour later. Supposedly because he blocked a fire door. It still doesn't answer the question about the security guard. Supposedly the police didn't know about him until the got to the floor. BUT supposedly security knew.. So why didn't security alert police? And again, why was the security guard even at his door? It just doesn't add up..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tell us what YOU think happened then.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

astronaut x 10-10-2017 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22031583)
It was Trump and he should be impeached.

Now that is a theory I can get behind. :2 cents::thumbsup:winkwink:

NewNick 10-10-2017 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C H R I S (Post 22031571)
These nutbag conspiracy theories are disrespectful to the victims and the victims families.

+1

I cannot imagine how Sandy Hook parents feel.

:(

Axeman 10-10-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031531)
They didn't breach for an hour later. Supposedly because he blocked a fire door. It still doesn't answer the question about the security guard. Supposedly the police didn't know about him until the got to the floor. BUT supposedly security knew.. So why didn't security alert police? And again, why was the security guard even at his door? It just doesn't add up..

Quote:

When Campos first arrived on the 32nd floor, he did so by elevator because Paddock had somehow blocked stairwell doors leading to the hallway outside of his room, Hickey said.

He had come the floor to respond to an open door alarm, Undersheriff Kevin McMahill said at a press conference on Friday, when Paddock shot Campos in the leg. McMahill praised Campos, and called for more recognition for the man who made it possible for police to located Paddock.

Police officers subsequently approached the room and were met with 200 rounds from Paddock, Lombardo said on Wednesday night. Police fell back until SWAT arrived.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/unarme...tephen-paddock

onwebcam 10-10-2017 07:30 PM

Compilation of lies..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=9GpPwhYuioM

onwebcam 10-11-2017 01:05 PM

Mandalay Bay executives question police timeline on Las Vegas shooting

"We believe what is currently being expressed may not be accurate.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/753118001/

The security guard wasn't there to check the door a building engineer was and came upon the guard getting shot at which police have completely failed to mention. Also no mention of him calling them to let them know the guard was shot. Also the building engineer claims shots were flying down the hall which means someone was shooting down the hallway.

https://www.today.com/news/las-vegas...opened-t117342

Rochard 10-11-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22031441)
It changes their entire story.... A security guard getting shot 6 minutes before the actual event isn't " nothing to see here" especially when they supposedly didn't discover where he was until over an hour later.

Yes.

And it seems like they are still discussing and debating what they believe happened. I saw something about the hotel disagreeing about the timeline the police put out.

This is what happens during an investigation. They try to figure out what happens. The story changes multiple times until they finally agree on what happened. This is complicated by the fact that we have news media outlets taking random facts, stringing them together, and coming up and publishing their own theories. And once they've figured it out all, and they all agree on everything... They still might be wrong.

onwebcam 10-11-2017 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22033117)
Yes.

And it seems like they are still discussing and debating what they believe happened. I saw something about the hotel disagreeing about the timeline the police put out.

This is what happens during an investigation. They try to figure out what happens. The story changes multiple times until they finally agree on what happened. This is complicated by the fact that we have news media outlets taking random facts, stringing them together, and coming up and publishing their own theories. And once they've figured it out all, and they all agree on everything... They still might be wrong.

Sorry 9 to 10 days later your excuse doesn't fly. They came out with the new timeline because they knew their original timeline would be destroyed once these new articles came out.

bronco67 10-12-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22031065)
First the police said that the security guard was a hero who stopped the massacre by engaging with Paddock. Now they are saying Paddock shot the guy a full six minutes before the massacre started. They have no reason as to why he stopped when he did.

They also changed the day he checked into the hotel to the date that "conspiracy theorists" identified days ago.

There's some graphic material here, so I won't post the images directly. Odd that he supposedly killed himself with a small revolver shot to the chest, that revolver ends up over his head, his foot is under another gun set up and he is laying on a rifle.
https://imgur.com/a/lbaZK


Something very serious went down in that hotel room that they are not telling us. Someone is obviously trying to fashion a cover story around those events.

I think this guy was CIA and something went wrong.

You should alter your life. By jumping in front of a fast moving train.

onwebcam 10-13-2017 09:43 PM

Las Vegas security guard Jesus Campos disappears moments before TV interviews | Fox News

Matt 26z 10-13-2017 11:25 PM

That guy is bad news. :2 cents:

onwebcam 10-13-2017 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22036307)
That guy is bad news. :2 cents:

The two key players are ghosts online. One's dead and one's ghosted IRL.

Matt 26z 10-14-2017 11:11 AM

Interesting video appearing to show more than two broken windows on the hotel...


beerptrol 10-14-2017 11:47 AM

OP is proof of what happens when you let a retard on the internet

onwebcam 10-14-2017 01:46 PM

Killing off witnesses now
https://www.infowars.com/las-vegas-s...econd-shooter/

baddog 10-14-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 22031065)
First the police said that the security guard was a hero who stopped the massacre by engaging with Paddock. Now they are saying Paddock shot the guy a full six minutes before the massacre started. They have no reason as to why he stopped when he did.

They also changed the day he checked into the hotel to the date that "conspiracy theorists" identified days ago.

There's some graphic material here, so I won't post the images directly. Odd that he supposedly killed himself with a small revolver shot to the chest, that revolver ends up over his head, his foot is under another gun set up and he is laying on a rifle.
https://imgur.com/a/lbaZK


Something very serious went down in that hotel room that they are not telling us. Someone is obviously trying to fashion a cover story around those events.

I think this guy was CIA and something went wrong.

You are such a fucking idiot. No wonder the Hillary idiots on GFY don't believe anything you say.

Bladewire 10-14-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22036803)
OP is proof of what happens when you let a retard on the internet

^^^ Truth


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