Do you expect your wife / girlfriend to work?
 

And girls do you want to be independant and work regardless of what your man says?


Just wondering what your thoughts are on this. I've had the discussion with many of my wifes friends and was curious how it's looked at by both genders.

That would be her descision

her ass off

theres got to be a pretty good excuse not to "work" - like looking after the kids and doing all the housework or full time study.

She better be pounding the pavement till 6am to turn those tricks...

Ho's gotta work.

Of course. She's actually supporting me (since I don't make money on porn).

Oh Lord, I am telling Esa.

hahaha, please don't! She'll kick my ass! ;)

only if she wants to eat...:1orglaugh

I'ma Bankhead nigga I'll take yo cookies

No. I bring home the money, my wife takes care of all the household shit. Works for me.

And then some.

raising kids is a fulltime job.

she can do what ever she wants , it's up to her:thumbsup

i'd kind of dig a 'career' woman in my next relationship (if i ever have another).

How many kids you want?

Same here.

my wife works when she want lol!! :1orglaugh

Actually she is a big help with our business!! Couldnt do it without her :thumbsup

2 or 3

Did you write your sig or is it a quote of someone?

Exactly. That's the problem with women today, they don't respect child rearing as a legitimate job. Somewhere along the line stuff got twisted around with the womens libbers. I think it is the most important one and she should be compensated nicely for it.

The optimum situation is one like PK's. She may be a smut pusher but I bet her kids are taken care of better than most.

I agree with you 100% and the womens lib thing has come up in many of the discussions I have had.

I expect them to take care of the house and be ready to fuck at a moment's notice.

try living anywhere like London on one income.

Anyway, as someone with a disabled husband who more or less is the only one working I kind of don't think I have a choice.

My girl works as a database admin in a large company that does competition on me. Why should I ask her to leave her work if she can give me some internal info about the competition ?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Of course. I'm speaking of the mindset of women and men on whether or not they think the female should *have* to work.

Your situation is different but most of the college age girls I have spoken to have the attitude that they want to work and the housework etc should be done by both parties regardless of whether or not he works longer or makes more money etc. I'm just wondering what happened to the women that want to raise a family and take care of the house.

equality...which in reality means more like we get the 'right' to work but also look after the house and the kids.

I just assumed this question was directed at those who have enough bank so that their women don't have to work for fiscal reasons.

Lemme rephrase my comment: my woman (when I have one) doesn't have to work, her salary won't make any difference. If she really, really wants to she can but I would prefer she work on making the house a home.

Exactly. However, if you're not making enough to support your family you should be doing more. The 40 hour work week was put in place by the government to get women in the work force for a family to earn a decent living. Men had no problem pulling 60 to 80 hours a week not so many years ago. :2 cents:

Stocktrader, Dig and I are on the same page.

Women are confused. Somehow they have been tricked into thinking "I want to be a power woman! Equal in all things! Career, Kids and a husband!"

It doesn't work like that. That would actually make them a sucker. Career + kids and a husband? All the man has to do is work? So that's not really equality and something has to suffer. Women who fall for this line of thinking are idiots. Obviously looking at the divorce rate and amount of single parent homes living at or below the poverty level something is wrong with this picture.

When they finally wake up and see that the home is a real job things will change. Guys also have to start picking up some slack and be real men and as Stocktrader said start working to win instead of just to get by and buy some brews. $40k a year doesn't do much for a household anymore.

Today's values are fucked.:disgust

Lame.

I would want to work because I've always worked to support myself and I like it that way. I don't need any man to "support"
me or to "provide" anything for me, I take care of myself just fine. If I can afford something, that's fine, and if I can't, I can live without it, I don't need a man providing ANYTHING for me.

If women choose to stay home and raise a family, I respect them for that, and to each their own, but I would NEVER want to be a "housewife" . What's it with all these men thinking women should just stay home and be a homemaker. You can all go fuck yourselves. It should be the woman's choice.

And yes, household chores SHOULD be split exactly 50/50. You think the woman should do more JUST because she's a woman?
Well, what if they both worked the same hours and made the same money? What then? I know a lot of guys who love to cook and take care of their own business, do their own laundry and stuff like that. I would rather die before I stayed home and cook dinner for some guy and clean the house all day.

And as for kids, I don't plan on having kids, so the "stay at home to be with your kids" thing doesn't apply to me.
So you guys think a woman WITHOUT kids, should still need to stay at home and be a "housewife?"

The man has to deal with the same thing:

Career + kids + wife


So you are assuming that a man only cares about his career and not his wife and kids? Why is the wife responsible for the kids and spouse, but the husband not vice versa??

Kids are the responsiblity of BOTH husband and wife since they BOTH brought kids into the world TOGETHER. Because a woman bears a child doesn't mean that she is solely responsible for the kids, you know. And of course spouses have to make time for each other if they intend to stay married.

So your equation is very flawed, it needs to apply to both parties, not just the woman.

I work at home so that doesn't apply to me either way. However, if both the husband and wife are working where are the kids? Let me guess in day care or at a babysitters?

If my wife decided to get a job and the only option was child care she better be ready to pay all the bills because I would be at home watching my son. :2 cents:

You are eactly the type of brainwashed young girl we are speaking of.

Raising kids is a JOB! A real job and one to be respected. Its totally necassary and no one can do it better than a woman.

No one said anything about a 'man needing to take care of you.' Thats the friggin' problem with you girls. You can't equate doing your part for the well being of society and a man playing what has been his role as nature has intended since time began with being a lazy kept chick.

Get over that way of thinking. A career for you is nice if you have no kids but let me ask you this, what's more important, raising a kid correctly or having a job?

Everybody has a role. We were made a certain way to play those roles. Why argue?

Otherwise men would come with tits. :1orglaugh

Yes, but I don't plan on having any kids. In a couple where there's no kids involved, do you still believe that a woman needs to stay at home to be a "housewife"??

And read my post where I explained why your equation was flawed. It takes 2 people to make a baby, so they both should equally be responsible for taking care of kids, if there are any involved. You apparently seem to believe that it's a woman's job to wait on her husband or something, and therefore she can't hold a job. You said career+ kids+ husband= too much for a wife.

But also remember that a husband needs to deal with his job, wife and kids too!

So how do you feel about it if there are NO kids involved??? Please answer this question.

I feel you are probably not getting married.

Anyways, some couples actually discuss it beforehand and
agree not to have kids. Some people actually plan on not having a family, you know. But you haven't answered my question.

What if there are no kids involved? Do you still feel the woman
should stay and home and scrub the floor?

Why do you assume being a "housewife" means you have to stay home and be a slave to your husband? Exactly how hard is it to keep a house clean?

Perfect example.

A man can clean after his own mess. Why is it the wife's job to keep a house clean?? Whoever messes up shit around the house, just clean up your own junk.

I clean up after myself, and I expect other people to do the same.

Why do you ask "Why It's So Hard To Keep A House Clean?" Stocktrader? You don't clean up after yourself or what?

First of all, I am married and I have a 1 year old son. I work around 80 to 100 hours a week to take care of my family. I don't make much of a mess but my wife has enough respect for what I do to clean up anything to do with the house. I don't ask, I don't force, she's just smart enough to know a good thing when she sees it.

Me wanted to be independent cost me my marriage... Got myself a bachelor degree in nursing and one year master (5 year studing) with 2 kids.... He fuken fliped on me... terring my books and stuff.. etc.. bal bla...

well I paked my bags and left with the kids... I am doing just fine... I liike to be in controle of my own life...and feel good about myself.. kinda lonely at times but hey! freedom is amazing...

Can you tell me how you have more freedom raising kids on your own and pursuing your career than you did while you and your husband were together? If you are saying he controlled you and didn't let you have your freedom that is a different story.

This is the exact thing I am wondering about. Can someone tell me how raising your kids and taking care of your home costs you your freedom? I can't comprehend it. It would seem that having the opportunity to spend as much time with your children as possible should be considered freedom compared to those that must work for their family to make ends meet.

Hypotehtically speaking, what if there was a husband and wife team who both worked from home (selling porn :Graucho )
they had no kids, and both made exactly the same amount of money.... who should clean up after who then?

I understand where you are coming from and like I said I don't force my wife to do anything. If we had no kids and she was working the same as me of course I would clean up after myself. Now if she was working only because she thought we needed extra money etc I would tell her to quit working. I got married to take care of her and any kids we have. If I wasn't making enough money I would work more.

Your automatic defense of the situation is exactly the response I don't understand. I have no idea what guys you have dated but why does taking care of your husband / house have anything to do with you being his slave or losing your freedom so to speak? That is the same response I hear from almost every woman I talk to about this and I just don't get it. Are most guys really that bad?

I'll never understand some of these chicks nowadays.

We decided before we were even married that she would stay home and take care of the kids and handle all the day to day household crap that needs doing. I make the money, whatever it takes to keep food on the table. This way, you don't have to put kids in fucking day care where they can get molested and come home with fucked up diseases.

Money has never been an issue. You get by and if you have to pass on a few things, so be it. At least your kids recognize you and you don't have to worry about some sick fucker giving them "bad touches."

And don't give me this "we need two incomes" bullshit because that is what it is - bullshit. You make it work.

Christ, a woman should *want* to stay home and take care of the kids.

And if we didn't have kids, she would still stay home because her job is to make sure that I can do my job - that I don't have to go grocery shopping or call the plumber or any of that shit. I can focus on what I do with nothing to slow me down. It's a partnership and without her, I couldn't do what I do and without me, she'd be flipping burgers.

Fair enough, but women don't always work because they HAVE TO in order to support themselves, some women actually ENJOY being productive, and achieving something and using their minds.
Women are not "beautiful ornaments" or statues that just like to sit at home all day and watch soap operas all day . Perhaps some do, but I know I don't. Do you know how boring it would be for someone to stay home all day, having no goals to achieve??

It could drive a person nuts!! Working is more exciting, sometimes it's fun to go out in the world and make your mark, and to be competitive, to use your brains and to achieve something. Sometimes people also get personal satisfaction from their jobs. And going to school is the same thing, it can broaden your mind and just help you be a more well-rounded person, and make you a happier person, which in turns makes you into a more happier spouse.

...a happier spouse that should stay home and teach the kids.

Exactly. You wouldn't hand over your car to a perfect stranger but people do it with their kids every single day.

:321GFY

What if there are no kids?