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Rochard 09-24-2017 02:33 PM

But the emails.....
 
LOL. We made such a huge deal about Hillary using a private email server.... Now we discover Jared is using his own private email for official business.

We should have an investigation. In fact, we should have six of them.

Kushner used private email to conduct White House business - POLITICO

kane 09-24-2017 04:01 PM

I saw the story this morning and actually laughed at the hypocrisy of it all.

Barry-xlovecam 09-24-2017 04:23 PM

When in politics and doing something shady -- someone will always rat you out in the end :2 cents:

Vendzilla 09-24-2017 04:30 PM

Did he use his private email address to do illegal shit like Hillary did and have aids taken hammers to destroy the server of those private emails?

Rochard 09-24-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22012817)
Did he use his private email address to do illegal shit like Hillary did and have aids taken hammers to destroy the server of those private emails?

What illegal shit?

How many investigations did we have, and how many times did they say she did nothing wrong? Six? Ten? Fifteen?

I demand an investigation into his emails. It must be illegal for someone who works in the White House to use personal emails to conduct official government business, right? He must be hiding something. I mean, so many secret meetings with the Russians and discussions about setting up secret communication channels....

We'll need at least six investigations into this.

Rochard 09-24-2017 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 22012799)
I saw the story this morning and actually laughed at the hypocrisy of it all.

Isn't it just hilarious? The Republicans spent two years ranting and raving about Hillary's emails and now we have a group of amateurs in the White House doing the exact same thing.

TheDynasty 09-24-2017 06:01 PM

We need 20 investigations and when that investigation is over we need 20 more!

kane 09-24-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22012867)
Isn't it just hilarious? The Republicans spent two years ranting and raving about Hillary's emails and now we have a group of amateurs in the White House doing the exact same thing.

Yep, they just spent the entire campaign of 2016 bitching about Hillary using personal email only to then turn around and do just that. It's almost as if they have gotten to the point where they have just decided to see how much they can troll the country and still get votes.

onwebcam 09-24-2017 08:34 PM

For starters he's an "adviser" not a Secretary of State.
Secondly you must have skipped over this part "These usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal rather than his White House address."
He wasn't discussing top secret information on the email account and it generally occurred when someone else "initiated it"
Hillary was doing ALL of her business on her private home server.

Rochard 09-24-2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22012963)
For starters he's an "adviser" not a Secretary of State.
Secondly you must have skipped over this part "These usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal rather than his White House address."
He wasn't discussing top secret information on the email account and it generally occurred when someone else "initiated it"
Hillary was doing ALL of her business on her private home server.

So basically when Hillary does it we need to have six investigations, but when someone in the Trump administration does it suddenly it's not an issue?

That's bullshit.

Why haven't we investigated anyone else who used the same exact set up?

BaldBastard 09-24-2017 09:09 PM

Trumps main form of communication is a public message board, one that's hacked daily and nobody blinks about it. Basically the security team at Twitter, holds the safety of the world in their hands. Scary huh!

C H R I S 09-24-2017 09:19 PM

Lock him up!

Trumpers are fucking hilarious

onwebcam 09-24-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22012977)
So basically when Hillary does it we need to have six investigations, but when someone in the Trump administration does it suddenly it's not an issue?

That's bullshit.

Why haven't we investigated anyone else who used the same exact set up?

You don't understand the difference of the SoS doing ALL business including discussing classified information on a private server and someone emailing an adviser news articles on his private email account?

Rochard 09-25-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22012991)
You don't understand the difference of the SoS doing ALL business including discussing classified information on a private server and someone emailing an adviser news articles on his private email account?

No, I do not see any difference.

The Secretary Of State used their own private email server to send out email. This was common for the Secretary of State, and prior (Republican) Secretaries of State used this same system. Also, Members of Congress used similar set ups as well.

Jared did the same.

There is a massive double standard here. Hillary Clinton does it and we have to have six investigations that drag out three years, but any Republican does the same thing and it's perfectly acceptable.

onwebcam 09-25-2017 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22013411)
No, I do not see any difference.

The Secretary Of State used their own private email server to send out email. This was common for the Secretary of State, and prior (Republican) Secretaries of State used this same system. Also, Members of Congress used similar set ups as well.

Jared did the same.

There is a massive double standard here. Hillary Clinton does it and we have to have six investigations that drag out three years, but any Republican does the same thing and it's perfectly acceptable.

No the previous SoS didn't. Hillary tried to blame it on the black man and the black man tossed her white ass under the buss.

His private thoughts

“email ploy this week didn't work and she once again looks shifty if not a liar,” Colin Powell wrote on Aug. 20
Emails show Colin Powell unloading on Clinton, Rumsfeld and Trump - POLITICO

And his public response

"With respect to records, if I sent an email from my public email account to an addressee at another public email account it would not have gone through State Department servers. It was a private conversation similar to a phone call. If I sent it to a state.gov address it should have been captured and retained by State servers," Powell said. "I was not aware at the time of any requirement for private, unclassified exchanges to be treated as official records."

Colin Powell defends personal email use - POLITICO

And he later adds

“If it is public that you have a BlackBerry and it it [sic] government and you are using it, government or not, to do business, it may become an official record and subject to the law,” Powell wrote. He added later: “Be very careful. I got around it all by not saying much and not using systems that captured the data.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.dc462b798cae

So he admits he did some things to avoid official record and not be subject to law. Hillary did everything to not be subject to law and official record.

Rochard 09-25-2017 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22013419)
No the previous SoS didn't. Hillary tried to blame it on the black man and the black man tossed her white ass under the buss.

Secretary Powell did the same exact thing. On top of that, Secretary Powell did not keep any records or copies, and since ignored requests to give the government access to his servers.

Condoleezza Rice did the same.

Why the double standard? Clinton does it and it's six investigations spanning three years, Republicans do it and it's perfectly acceptable?

What about other Republicans? Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, Martin O?Malley, Scott Walker, Marco Rubioj. Then there is Mitt Romney - There is NO email records from 2002-2006 because Mitt not only wiped all of the hard drives clean, but also replaced the computers themselves.

The best one was Jason Chaffetz.... LOL. He handed out official business cards with a Gmail address.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxU4RaXgAA9GgE.jpg

Why aren't we investigating Jason Chaffetz?

No worries, it's all good. A dozen investigations into Clinton reveals she never did anything wrong or illegal. In the mean time all of Jared's emails are part of the Russian investigation, so they'll be able to go over all of those emails.

Vendzilla 09-25-2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22012863)
What illegal shit?

How many investigations did we have, and how many times did they say she did nothing wrong? Six? Ten? Fifteen?

I demand an investigation into his emails. It must be illegal for someone who works in the White House to use personal emails to conduct official government business, right? He must be hiding something. I mean, so many secret meetings with the Russians and discussions about setting up secret communication channels....

We'll need at least six investigations into this.

7 email chains with emails marked top secret

crockett 09-25-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22012817)
Did he use his private email address to do illegal shit like Hillary did and have aids taken hammers to destroy the server of those private emails?

I bet you meant to say "Lock him up"...

Bladewire 09-25-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22013911)
7 email chains with emails marked top secret

Wrong again. Why are you lying?

You can't get facts from the past correct you won't get the future right either.

crockett 09-25-2017 03:42 PM

Let's not forget about the literal million plus emails Dick Cheney deleted.

Rochard 09-25-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22013911)
7 email chains with emails marked top secret

Six investigations say it wasn't illegal. So?

This is just amazing. Hillary does it and you are all up in arms demanding investigations. Jared does it and it's not an issue.

No problem. We already have multiple investigations into Jared. This is the first of many.

All Republicans should be embarrassed at this point. Nine months into this administration and he has accomplished NOTHING and has the lowest approval rating in the first year of any president. This is ridiculous.

Lewis11 09-25-2017 05:28 PM

This was a really funny story

Rochard 09-25-2017 10:46 PM

Now tonight we find out six more people from the Trump administration / campaign have been using "personal" emails - including Ivanka. LOL.

We should investigate!

Rochard 09-25-2017 10:47 PM

But the emails!

Rochard 09-26-2017 10:48 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/u...er-bannon.html

2MuchMark 09-26-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22012817)
Did he use his private email address to do illegal shit like Hillary did

Nah, he just colluded with Russia to help his wife's daddy trick dumb-fuck idiots into voting for him and steal the election from under everyones feet. Let it sink in.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22012977)
Why haven't we investigated anyone else who used the same exact set up?

Because there's no will to at the moment. When BO was in charge, republicans tried every trick in the book including endless attacks against Democrat Hillary Clinton to turn her name into mud so she wouldn't win the election.

But now that Republicans are in power, the last thing they want to do is investigate their own. That is until Mueller starts getting very very close to the grand prize. When that happens, then you'll see republicans everywhere suddenly grow a pair and start pointing fingers at the con-man in chief.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22013911)
7 email chains with emails marked top secret

http://static6.businessinsider.com/i...umpjremail.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22014389)
But the emails!

But the emails!


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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22015115)

I'm stubborn, but can change my mind. Many people here are stubborn but will never change their mind, no matter what the facts are. To them changing their mind and admitting when they are wrong is harder than continuing to believe a lie despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

TheDynasty 09-26-2017 05:43 PM

lock them up!

imabro 09-26-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22012991)
You don't understand the difference of the SoS doing ALL business including discussing classified information on a private server and someone emailing an adviser news articles on his private email account?

You have been here long enough to know that no, Rockead doesn't see a difference.

ilnjscb 09-26-2017 06:22 PM

What, exactly, would Hillary Clinton have done? She was a good senator, a good Secretary of State. As far as I can see each administration including this one and Dummy all used private emails. They all sent top secret shit, and all deleted shit they weren't supposed to. Like 1million people have top secret clearance - they all look each other and everybody else up and laugh. There are NO controls. They didn't even notice when Snowden downloaded ALL the files, like gigabytes of them. Top secret is a joke.

Instead of nitpicking, why not look at the net effect. Is the economy better? Is the world more stable? Are people getting enough to eat, getting access to education? Can small businesses grow? Etc. who the fuck is perfect?

Rochard 09-26-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22015519)
What, exactly, would Hillary Clinton have done? She was a good senator, a good Secretary of State. As far as I can see each administration including this one and Dummy all used private emails. They all sent top secret shit, and all deleted shit they weren't supposed to. Like 1million people have top secret clearance - they all look each other and everybody else up and laugh. There are NO controls. They didn't even notice when Snowden downloaded ALL the files, like gigabytes of them. Top secret is a joke.

Instead of nitpicking, why not look at the net effect. Is the economy better? Is the world more stable? Are people getting enough to eat, getting access to education? Can small businesses grow? Etc. who the fuck is perfect?

I don't have an issue with the emails. When it came up with Hillary's private email server it wasn't an issue with me. I know a little about the handling of classified information mostly because I've been reading about the cold war since I was a kid. You would think there would be a lot of laws about the handling of classified information, but there really isn't. For example, there is no law that says the Secretary of State or someone in Congress cannot transport classified information via private car or store classified information in their house. There are rules about such things; I remember one rule about government employees being required to have a certain standard of safes.

The problem is the double standard. The system Hillary Clinton used was similar to what former Secretaries of State used, as well as members of Congress. If there was such great concern about this issue, why didn't we investigate these people - most of which seem to have been Republicans? In fact, the person leading the charge - Jason Chaffetz - was handing out business cards with a Gmail address.

Why did we have six or seven investigations into Hillary Clinton, but never any investigations into anyone else?

I am not a supporter of Hillary Clinton, but I do not like our government launching investigations with only intention of the investigations being nothing more than a smear campaign.

BaldBastard 09-26-2017 09:42 PM

If you have ever tried to email via a secure servers you realise why these people used personal emails especially pre 2010, fuck I only cancelled my snaky account last year cos I didn't need it to email anymore and that was just the ISP's fucked email and security not government strength.

Trying to use these services especially out of your home country was fucked and basically next to impossible.

The Trump admin really have no excuses, its a different time, different technology and I think everyone is well aware of the political issues now, basically they have no excuses at all except being.. fucking dumb.

ilnjscb 09-27-2017 12:10 AM

All these geniuses in Silicon Valley and they cant do easy secure email? Offer 5 bill I bet it gets done.

Paul Markham 09-27-2017 09:07 AM

You're right the FBI should investigate.

Anyone in office keeps a private email server should be a crime. Especially if they delete everything.


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