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Bladewire 09-23-2017 07:33 AM

The Department of Homeland Security notifies 21 states of election hacking
 
BOOM!

Buried on a Friday night by the Trump administration.

Is Trump still gonna say "fake news" about the elections being hacked?

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Federal government notifies 21 states of election hacking

The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year?s presidential election.

The notification came roughly a year after U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia. The states that told The Associated Press they had been targeted included some key political battlegrounds, such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The AP contacted every state election office to determine which ones had been informed that their election systems had been targeted. The others confirming were Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas and Washington.

Busty2 09-23-2017 07:39 AM

Don't you know that if the almighty CHUMP says its fake news, then its fake news. Lets hope this fucker gets impeached soon before he starts a nuclear war!!

Bladewire 09-23-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busty2 (Post 22011321)
Don't you know that if the almighty CHUMP says its fake news, then its fake news. Lets hope this fucker gets impeached soon before he starts a nuclear war!!

21 states election facilities were cyber attacked in 2016 yet no mention of it on Department of Homeland Security's website. Imagine that.

onwebcam 09-23-2017 08:20 AM

Congrats to DHS for telling us something we already knew nearly a year ago. Proof positive the deep state is working against Trump. Accessing and "attacking" are 2 different things.

crockett 09-23-2017 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22011369)
Congrats to DHS for telling us something we already knew nearly a year ago. Proof positive the deep state is working against Trump. Accessing and "attacking" are 2 different things.

Yesterday, you called it all a hoax and fake news.. Can you make up your mind?

Bladewire 09-23-2017 09:44 AM

Redhats are avoiding this thread like the plague. I wonder why?

RedFred 09-23-2017 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011459)
Redhats are avoiding this thread like the plague. I wonder why?

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Bladewire 09-23-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22011369)
Congrats to DHS for telling us something we already knew nearly a year ago. Proof positive the deep state is working against Trump. Accessing and "attacking" are 2 different things.

You didn't read the article.

Voting systems were hacked and BREACHED by the Russians and Trump's Department of Homeland Security waited almost year to informed the 21 hacked states!

?It is completely unacceptable that it has taken DHS almost a year to inform our office of Russian scanning of our systems, despite our repeated requests for information,? California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, said in a statement. ?The practice of withholding critical information from elections officials is a detriment to the security of our elections and our democracy.?

onwebcam 09-23-2017 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011487)
You didn't read the article.

Voting systems were hacked and BREACHED by the Russians and Trump's Department of Homeland Security waited almost year to informed the 21 hacked states!

“It is completely unacceptable that it has taken DHS almost a year to inform our office of Russian scanning of our systems, despite our repeated requests for information,” California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, said in a statement. “The practice of withholding critical information from elections officials is a detriment to the security of our elections and our democracy.”

You obviously ignored the first few sentences and jumped to opinion.

"The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year’s presidential election.

The notification came roughly a year after U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia."


Hackers are targeting pretty much every server everywhere all the time. Those hackers could "possibly" be connected to Russia as well as pretty much every other country in the World. "Targeting" isn't "accessing"

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onwebcam 09-23-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22011373)
Yesterday, you called it all a hoax and fake news.. Can you make up your mind?

It is fake news. This is the excuse used for DHS taking over the election systems to begin with. They announced nothing new.

Bladewire 09-23-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22011495)
You obviously ignored the first few sentences and jumped to opinion.

"The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year?s presidential election.

The notification came roughly a year after U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia."


Hackers are targeting pretty much every server everywhere all the time. Those hackers could "possibly" be connected to Russia as well as pretty much every other country in the World. "Targeting" isn't "accessing"

Funny how how you act like voting data being hacked, and accessed, is not a big deal. Pathetic actually. Yet the slightest conspiracy comes up against Democrats and you vmcreate thread after thread as if it's fact. Pizzagate

Here we have a fact our voting systems were hacked, breached and accessed in critical states and you act like it happens everyday and nothing matters. Hypocrite

onwebcam 09-23-2017 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011503)
Funny how how you act like voting data being hacked, and accessed, is not a big deal. Pathetic actually. Yet the slightest conspiracy comes up against Democrats and you vmcreate thread after thread as if it's fact. Pizzagate

Here we have a fact our voting systems were hacked, breached and accessed in critical states and you act like it happens everyday and nothing matters. Hypocrite

They weren't accessed they were "targeted" DHS can't stop hackers attempts. They can announce to us all it's happening so we'll be glad they are there to centralize and "protect" the voter system. Truth be told they are less safe now. There's only one target rather than many.

Bladewire 09-23-2017 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22011507)
They weren't accessed they were "targeted" DHS can't stop hackers attempts. They can announce to us all it's happening so we'll be glad they are there to centralize and "protect" the voter system. Truth be told they are less safe now. There's only one target rather than many.

Trump himself could shoot a baby in the head in 42nd avenue and you'd say "Murders happen everyday" then say "He's POTUS he can do as he pleases. He'll pardon himself and that's the law whether we like it or not"

onwebcam 09-23-2017 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011511)
Trump himself could shoot a baby in the head in 42nd avenue and you'd say "Murders happen everyday" then say "He's POTUS he can do as he pleases. He'll pardon himself and that's the law whether we like it or not"

So now you're comparing hacking attempts and Trump murdering babies to try and make your case? Where does Russia fit in? Does Trump use a kalashnikov?

All angles seem to have played out.. Now it's just rehashing old lie's. You better hope Mueller is doing what you think and not what I think.

Bladewire 09-23-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22011521)
So now you're comparing hacking attempts and Trump murdering babies to try and make your case?

They were successful hacks where info was accessed. Did you not read the article? You have difficulty with honest dialogue.

"Illinois reported that hackers had succeeded in breaching its voter systems."

onwebcam 09-23-2017 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011539)
They were successful hacks where info was accessed. Did you not read the article? You have difficulty with honest dialogue.

"Illinois reported that hackers had succeeded in breaching its voter systems."

So the hackers won Illinois for Hillary?

VRPdommy 09-23-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22011581)
So the hackers won Illinois for Hillary?


The methods used only gave Trump a percentage. Not enough to win in each state.
To do to much changing would have created obvious visibility of the hack.
They had to go looking for it and still had a hard time of it.

...
How is anyone going to trust electronic voter tabulations again ?

We are going to be listening to these same arguments every election.

The Cheap, Easy & Fast of Computer data will have you down the drain and in the sewer faster, easier and cheaper than ever before in history.

As I have always said (20 years anyway), Data Security is a oxymoron. The 2 words have no business being used together in the same sentence.

ilnjscb 09-23-2017 12:49 PM

It says no results were changed, and no votes were compromised. How do you think that reads? You don't mention it but every republican will. If you actually wanted to change minds you'd address that.

onwebcam 09-23-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 22011647)
The methods used only gave Trump a percentage. Not enough to win in each state.
To do to much changing would have created obvious visibility of the hack.
They had to go looking for it and still had a hard time of it.

Ah and you know this how?

TheDynasty 09-23-2017 01:38 PM

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VRPdommy 09-23-2017 02:43 PM

There are different parts to voter systems in each state. The same systems do not exist in each state because it is up to the state to run it's own election process in accordance with US constitution, federal law and the states constitution and laws.
Results are judged by the rules that were in place the day before election day.

Voting systems are not state entities. It is a sub-contracted function of the state. (they hire out for it)

Online 'voter registration systems' would never generally be attacked unless you were just trying to prevent them from happening at a particular time. Easily checked for fraud at any time.

Voter tabulation, the individual poll unit used at a poll station can be a target but is not generally because you have to get to the programming that would go into the machine in advance. They are not connected online. Not really a direct target. But the machines that make the programming for them are. Trojan horses will never be found in the machine itself after execution. That is their design.

Counting network machines that tab the data from the polling unit are susceptible to all threats direct and indirect.

Many states have no paper trail to really check the counting system before during or after.
So when a trojan is activated , being part of any segment to the counting system, it does it's deed and can not be found. You have to find recorded accesses to any unit connected to the system to find when and how a trojan was planted. Most of which is not done and for those that are, it is a extremely time consuming process since you may not know exactly what you are looking for and from all machines that had access to the master programming unit or the tabulation systems.
It does no good to attack the final counting machines since everything can be recounted from the raw data again if there is a issue.

The implanted trojan can come from the hack of a authorized unit that has access to the system.
Much how we planted the StuxNet Virus on Iranian nuclear facilities.
There, we already had the blueprint of the system and knew what plc controls they had and via a thumb drive planted a virus that made it's way to the system by a technicians laptop that also connected to the system controlling the plc's and through a normal redirected software update for the control (with a specific serial number range so that other systems that might also use the same control would not be affected in case the virus went wild), they began infiltrating the system.

But to do any of this you need a blueprint to how the system is set-up. You need to see the programming. Nobody would hack these in a way that is directly detectable. They do it by inserting code from that which feeds the programming of the polling unit and via TROJAN..., the code disappears/destroyed after execution.

So that is the accesses and poking around for a looksy. To get the blueprint of the code.
Your not going to find evidence of the code. Just perhaps accesses to where the breach accrued in the chain, 'IF' you know where to look and you have ALL records for those machines that had ANY access. NOT.

DHS does not have the lead on this one, but they are the only ones allowed to talk to the public about any details. They certainly are not saying much. And I can only guess that voter confidence is the issue while they try to figure out how to prevent this in the future.

Consider it all fake news if you must but you might be doing your own interest a disservice for the future.
But I do expect everyone to question any statement made by any government body. Just make sure you demand answers and don't stop till you get them. Just as you might do to me.
No matter your political affiliation. It can and will get worse.


DATA SECURITY...
A fairy tale spoken to create trust and allow a more productive information sharing.

Barry-xlovecam 09-23-2017 02:54 PM

Quote:

[B]eing targeted does not mean that sensitive voter data was manipulated or results were changed. A hacker targeting a system without getting inside is similar to a burglar circling a house checking for unlocked doors and windows. ...
Hacking attempts.

Many servers are targets of hacking attempts everyday.

Quote:

[F]ederal officials said that in most of the 21 states the targeting was preparatory activity such as scanning computer systems.

The targets included voter registration systems but not vote tallying software. Officials said there were some attempts to compromise networks but most were unsuccessful.

Only Illinois reported that hackers had succeeded in breaching its voter systems.

Other states said their cybersecurity efforts turned back efforts to get to crucial information. ...
Welcome to the Internet ...

imabro 09-23-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011459)
Redhats are avoiding this thread like the plague. I wonder why?

Most people have you blocked so they don't see your crap. Or they just ignore your ilk.

Major (Tom) 09-23-2017 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011317)
BOOM!

Buried on a Friday night by the Trump administration.

Is Trump still gonna say "fake news" about the elections being hacked?

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Federal government notifies 21 states of election hacking

The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year?s presidential election.

The notification came roughly a year after U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia. The states that told The Associated Press they had been targeted included some key political battlegrounds, such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The AP contacted every state election office to determine which ones had been informed that their election systems had been targeted. The others confirming were Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas and Washington.



So this happened under obama?

Major (Tom) 09-23-2017 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imabro (Post 22011807)
Most people have you blocked so they don't see your crap. Or they just ignore your ilk.

It's more like bladewire is the crazy cat lady. Same credibility different gender, sort of.

Acepimp 09-24-2017 02:33 AM

1) If Obama was aware of "Russian hacking," why didn't he do anything about it then??

2) It was Obama's DHS that was caught hacking several state election systems. Look it up. Why no mention of that, BladeLiar??

3) No serious person believes Russians influenced the election in any way. Can we stop being hysterical please? Maybe accept the results already??

Major (Tom) 09-24-2017 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22012103)
1) If Obama was aware of "Russian hacking," why didn't he do anything about it then??

2) It was Obama's DHS that was caught hacking several state election systems. Look it up. Why no mention of that, BladeLiar??

3) No serious person believes Russians influenced the election in any way. Can we stop being hysterical please? Maybe accept the results already??

I was convinced trump would win about 2 months out. My accountant said it perfectly, "there are so many women entrepeneurs who are voting for trump but are not making it public info." He went to on say, "I have yet to run into an accountant who's heard differently." So there you have it. That's how I knew. It wasn't the russians under obama convincing the same likeminded people as those who fall prey to nigerian princes. The ongoing repeated sodomy the alt left on this board receives daily is enough to put a smile on anyones face. Call me crazy, but I bet this dog and pony show with this special prosecutor goes no where. Possibly someone jumping on the grenade only to be pardoned later. It'd be extremly unlikley he's removed from office. I'm going to say 2% chance of it happening.

VRPdommy 09-25-2017 06:09 AM

Some of you would rather try to deny the election outcome. Don't...
Trump is your President, like it or not. He is a 'certified winner' of the election and you can't change that.
Look forward, not in reverse. You can't change the past but you may be able to affect the future. Stop wasting your time.

You should be more concerned with the integrity of your election process may have went the way of Equifax.
Something you are likely to feel, but not now, but perhaps in 3 years.
I might mention that no data was changed at Equifax either... or was it, or not yet, or not realized yet. Who knows.... yet. It may be the most costly to everyone in the future.
When it happens or affects you, will you wake-up then and smell the poo ? Or only when it's 'in your nostrils' and 'in your mouth'.
The history of it has shown me that it becomes to late then, or we would not continue to have them and worse with each breach.

There are some major breaches that are going on now that you may not hear about for a year and some that you may never hear about at all.
The daily tab of them has been going up and you will not find out about most of them if you don't specifically look for them.

Well, GOOD LUCK ! for luck is all you have without action.
You will never obtain what you do not ask for. ...Stop being so lazy with your future.
What kind of world are you really leaving for your children and your later years ?

Here is a light list to get you started...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches

World?s Biggest Data Breaches & Hacks ? Information is Beautiful

Just healthcare for 2017
The biggest healthcare breaches of 2017 (so far) | Healthcare IT News

It's your future and it's closer than you think.

Paul Markham 09-25-2017 08:16 AM

If you use computers that are made by a US firm that strongly supports the one party. I wouldn't be surprised they were hacked every time.

VRPdommy 09-25-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22013443)
If you use computers that are made by a US firm that strongly supports the one party. I wouldn't be surprised they were hacked every time.

Doubt that,
But some Chinese manufacturer's have been caught embedding code in chips. But I can't say I follow the exact logic for hacking this way unless they become inside out activations.
Depends on the code and what they have access to. Probably find out one day in the future. The government never said what kind of chips these were.

but then again you have this...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-k...-idUSKBN1AA2XM

For some background, I doubt very much the Kaspersky corporate officials have anything to do with making segments of the antivirus software a gateway to hacking. Employee's ???
But know that AV software puts locks on your files for protective events so it has full rights and access to your machine and most likely access to the connected network if the machine itself has rights AND that it needs continuous updating to stay on top of latest signature's of threats. Large systems run the AV software from the file server itself and has access to the network connected machines.

I have complained about 'updaters' of all products being a potential gateway to a hack for at least 14 years.
And I have had my suspicions of Kaspersky Labs for 2 of those. The US government wants it off all it's machines right away.(since the election). Many in the corporate world were ahead of them. I think even the Chinese were taking advantage of the situation.
There is news and there are things that happen that you never hear about cause nobody wants to 'scare you' away from trust.

If you actually knew how vulnerable you all are you would be quite upset.
Someone else's problem to fix right ?
Assuming the corporate world and the Government get a handle on their problems, who is going to fight for you and yours ?

BaldBastard 09-25-2017 01:35 PM

Hackers easily bust into voting machines, in conference challenge | Fox News

Amazing how some stories appear on fox for 30 minutes and then dissappear

nico-t 09-25-2017 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22011317)
BOOM!

Buried on a Friday night by the Trump administration.

Is Trump still gonna say "fake news" about the elections being hacked?

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Federal government notifies 21 states of election hacking

The federal government on Friday told election officials in 21 states that hackers targeted their systems before last year’s presidential election.

The notification came roughly a year after U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials first said states were targeted by hacking efforts possibly connected to Russia. The states that told The Associated Press they had been targeted included some key political battlegrounds, such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The AP contacted every state election office to determine which ones had been informed that their election systems had been targeted. The others confirming were Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas and Washington.

BOOM!
Desperate attempts by the establishment to hack the election to let Clinton win. Fortunately it didn't work though, otherwise WW3 would have been started the moment that hag entered office.

The hacking of the elections explain the totally illogical 'popular vote' that went to her, that was very very fishy.

Oh wait. You assumed the hacking was done in favor of Trump? Wrong. Remember what the establishment did to Sanders in favor of Clinton?

Sleep well! :thumbsup

Rochard 09-25-2017 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22012103)
1) If Obama was aware of "Russian hacking," why didn't he do anything about it then??

What was he going to do? Stop the election?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22012103)
3) No serious person believes Russians influenced the election in any way. Can we stop being hysterical please? Maybe accept the results already??

Seems the Russians helped the Trump administration at every chance they got.

We know for a fact they hacked the DNC and released their information to Wikileaks. So yes, we have proof the Russians influenced the election.

crockett 09-25-2017 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 22014157)
What was he going to do? Stop the election?



Seems the Russians helped the Trump administration at every chance they got.

We know for a fact they hacked the DNC and released their information to Wikileaks. So yes, we have proof the Russians influenced the election.

At the same time they also hacked the RNC but didnt release the emails..

Lewis11 09-25-2017 05:09 PM

People are saying its fake news

VRPdommy 09-25-2017 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 22013943)
BOOM!
Desperate attempts by the establishment to hack the election to let Clinton win. Fortunately it didn't work though, otherwise WW3 would have been started the moment that hag entered office.

The hacking of the elections explain the totally illogical 'popular vote' that went to her, that was very very fishy.

Oh wait. You assumed the hacking was done in favor of Trump? Wrong. Remember what the establishment did to Sanders in favor of Clinton?

Sleep well! :thumbsup

But what actually happened...

Both Rep & Dem headquarters machines were hacked by a outside entity.
It is known that the DNC computer hack had all file ownership permissions stripped away and that allowed both Sanders and Clinton camps to see each others files. Along with the hacker who already had them all. And Sanders group reported the indecent that made a good deal of news at the time. The moment this happened, as a news report, I knew exactly what kind of hack it was.

But more important, you will find that Trump began stealing Sanders message at this time, even talking about going after the drug company's (same as sanders) because he had all of their OP-Research & messaging data and internal communications. I believe he even spoke some empathy for Sanders publicly at that time. Trump had already won his bid for the Rep nom. The Dem's were still hashing it out.

Everything is only as it appears, but the appearance changes the more you know about what actually happened and understanding those slim set of facts.


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