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NatalieK 08-30-2017 02:24 AM

Mattis freezes transgender military ban
 
As title says, James Mattis freezes the ban on transgenders in the army.

http://perezhilton.com/2017-08-29-do...eze/?from=post


Serious question, if he can or has froze this ban, why was the ban put in place from the start? Does the secretary of defence have power over Trump when it comes to the military or is it the Presidents say so? Will Trump be lifting the ban later today, back and forth or does this stick?

pimpmaster9000 08-30-2017 02:32 AM

We don't want no tranny invaders...fuck this shit...

bronco67 08-30-2017 10:10 AM

That's because he's the type of man who knows that being secretary of defense means sticking up for your troops who are honorable enough to serve their country. It's obviously something the president doesn't get, when you see him trying to pull this shit for some political red meat to throw to his base. Those "trannies" have way more character than he does because they're serving instead of crying about a sore foot to get out of service.

TheDynasty 08-30-2017 10:12 AM

they froze it because we have ACTIVE Trans Troops Right Now. What are they going to do send them all home?

Bladewire 08-30-2017 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 21978325)
they froze it because we have ACTIVE Trans Troops Right Now. What are they going to do send them all home?

Trump is unstable. In February he bows to protect LGBT from descrimination, the Trump discriminates and kicks Transgender (the T in LGBT ) out of the military by tweet.

If Trump's decision stands, the Transgenders will get a huge government payout on their military contact and be given an honorable discharge which gives them awesome lifetime benefits. Hundreds of millions of dollars.









C H R I S 08-30-2017 10:43 AM

Impotent president. All he can do is sign executive orders that have no meaning. Couldn't even repeal Obamacare with both houses and the executive branch.

NatalieK 08-30-2017 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21978319)
That's because he's the type of man who knows that being secretary of defense means sticking up for your troops who are honorable enough to serve their country.

:thumbsup but does this mean Mattis can always throw Trumps decisions out?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDynasty (Post 21978325)
they froze it because we have ACTIVE Trans Troops Right Now. What are they going to do send them all home?

Trumpīs making decisions that can ruin a country, all those memorials have already been pulled down. Trump needs a psychologist :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21978373)
Trump is unstable. In February he bows to protect LGBT from descrimination, the Trump discriminates and kicks Transgender (the T in LGBT ) out of the military by tweet.

If Trump's decision stands, the Transgenders will get a huge government payout on their military contact and be given an honorable discharge which gives them awesome lifetime benefits. Hundreds of millions of dollars.

so sadly, once again, Trumpīs just taken the piss out of thousands of Americans but stating what he did and now, because of Mattis, they wonīt get any benefits from claims of disrespect from Trump.

He continues to take the piss and no one seems to care. Itīs like he has a fucking spell on lots of citizens thinking he does nothing wrong :mad:

2MuchMark 08-30-2017 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21978399)
He continues to take the piss and no one seems to care. Itīs like he has a fucking spell on lots of citizens thinking he does nothing wrong :mad:

Trump likes piss.

Arnox 08-30-2017 04:26 PM

Yeah, this is fake news. Trump's policy was to stop new recruitment and cease covering medical payments of transitioning members. No part of his policy involved removing already existing transsexuals in the military.

James Mattis isn't doing anything that Trump said he wouldn't allow. In fact, James Mattis is simply following orders. He's engaging in research to determine the best way to handle the situation, and will the advise Donald Trump on what should be done.

The media is literally spreading complete misinformation. Mattis isn't defying Trump: he's toeing the line and listening to his orders. Bullshit titles such as "freezes transgender military ban" are completely false.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...eeze-statement

pimpmaster9000 08-30-2017 04:31 PM

We do not want any fat invaders either...

If you could just send normal soldiers we will pretend your planes are stealth and shit...

kane 08-30-2017 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21977661)
As title says, James Mattis freezes the ban on transgenders in the army.

http://perezhilton.com/2017-08-29-do...eze/?from=post


Serious question, if he can or has froze this ban, why was the ban put in place from the start? Does the secretary of defence have power over Trump when it comes to the military or is it the Presidents say so? Will Trump be lifting the ban later today, back and forth or does this stick?

The ban called for blocking new trans people from joining and it also blocked the military from paying for people's trans surgeries. The question is what will happen to those currently serving and, essentially, Mattis has put a freeze on their status while they research and come to a decision. This means the trans people currently serving will be able to do so for the time being and not be affected by the ban.

Will it stick? Who knows. The Democrats are working on an amendment to a defense bill that would either overturn this directive or at least make certain that those who are currently serving are able to do so without issue.

My personal opinion is that we will end up with just that, a ban on trans people joining the military, but those already in the military can stay and be protected. I also won't be shocked to see this heading to court.

Martin 08-30-2017 04:46 PM

See Im against this. They should send the trannies to go fight ISIS. Who's with me?

onwebcam 08-30-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21977669)
We don't want no tranny invaders...fuck this shit...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21979009)
We do not want any fat invaders either...

If you could just send normal soldiers we will pretend your planes are stealth and shit...

So what you're saying is don't send Perez Hilton?

pimpmaster9000 08-30-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21979029)
So what you're saying is don't send Perez Hilton?

I am afraid to yahoo it...yahoo is back in fashion...

Tasty1 08-30-2017 04:57 PM

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NatalieK 08-30-2017 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21979025)
The ban called for blocking new trans people from joining and it also blocked the military from paying for people's trans surgeries. The question is what will happen to those currently serving and, essentially, Mattis has put a freeze on their status while they research and come to a decision. This means the trans people currently serving will be able to do so for the time being and not be affected by the ban.

Will it stick? Who knows. The Democrats are working on an amendment to a defense bill that would either overturn this directive or at least make certain that those who are currently serving are able to do so without issue.

My personal opinion is that we will end up with just that, a ban on trans people joining the military, but those already in the military can stay and be protected. I also won't be shocked to see this heading to court.

this is all to the point & very well written. Nice post & your points are valid.

I think your conclusions are most probably correct too :thumbsup

Robbie 08-30-2017 06:42 PM

Boy the govt. sure does own the younger generation.
When I was young, people did everything they could to NOT join the military.

These days? People just can't wait to sign up and possibly lose their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan...for nothing.

At least liberals understood the govt. was evil during the Vietnam War.

Joshua G 08-30-2017 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21979091)
this is all to the point & very well written. Nice post & your points are valid.

I think your conclusions are most probably correct too :thumbsup

can you just step back & recognize that you are dumb as a chia pet & are incapable of self generated intelligent discourse? please???

you can't even follow the basic facts of the issue you posted about. you are a total idiot dupe of the liberal media. The media LOVES YOU.

you are their target market: morons.

:1orglaugh

kane 08-30-2017 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21979181)
Boy the govt. sure does own the younger generation.
When I was young, people did everything they could to NOT join the military.

These days? People just can't wait to sign up and possibly lose their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan...for nothing.

At least liberals understood the govt. was evil during the Vietnam War.

A while back I read a piece that talked about something that happened during George W. Bush's time in office that may have been the catalyst for this. After 9/11 when we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, the military had a lot of trouble meeting their recruitment goals. About that same time is when the government launched a large scale campaign to create a "hero worship" of sorts when it comes to military personnel. The hope was that young people would see the great treatment our military members get and they would want to be a part of that and therefore join. I don't know that this is the sole reason for how things have turned, but it seemed pretty logical to me.

Tasty1 08-30-2017 09:18 PM

Strange, people are willing to kill for a pussy and boobs.

Bladewire 08-30-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 21979003)
Yeah, this is fake news. Trump's policy was to stop new recruitment and cease covering medical payments of transitioning members. No part of his policy involved removing already existing transsexuals in the military.

James Mattis isn't doing anything that Trump said he wouldn't allow. In fact, James Mattis is simply following orders. He's engaging in research to determine the best way to handle the situation, and will the advise Donald Trump on what should be done.

The media is literally spreading complete misinformation. Mattis isn't defying Trump: he's toeing the line and listening to his orders. Bullshit titles such as "freezes transgender military ban" are completely false.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...eeze-statement

The OP source link is FoxNews, figures

Paul Markham 08-31-2017 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21978319)
That's because he's the type of man who knows that being secretary of defense means sticking up for your troops who are honorable enough to serve their country. It's obviously something the president doesn't get, when you see him trying to pull this shit for some political red meat to throw to his base. Those "trannies" have way more character than he does because they're serving instead of crying about a sore foot to get out of service.

No it's because he's influenced by being PC instead of being sensible.


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