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Donny 04-23-2003 06:17 PM

Attn: Serge
 
I REALLY need to talk to Sue. Can you have her email me:

[email protected]

american pervert 04-23-2003 06:19 PM

is this why?

Gary 04-23-2003 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by american perv
is this why?
LOL

TDF 04-23-2003 06:27 PM

damn:feels-hot

KRL 04-23-2003 06:36 PM

You got to be careful with models guys. Very careful. They can bite you in the butt with all kinds of bullshit claims. Take standard model releases and ramp them up to the max with as many extra clauses as you can covering everything especially full disclosure on the use of the pics.

american pervert 04-23-2003 06:38 PM

shit..

find the model releases and ids, then give the content away to tgp builders..

AzteK 04-23-2003 06:40 PM

sigh

Donny 04-23-2003 06:51 PM

Yes, that is why.

Six fuckin' years in this business without a single lawsuit...

everyone calling me Donovan Phillips so that religious fanatics can't find my real name and harm my little boy by ending up at my ex-wife's door looking for me (she still has her phone registered in both our names, as well as her address)...

... not a single blemish on my record. I shoot softcore photos to avoid any problems....

no this fuckin' BULL SHIT

LadyMischief 04-23-2003 06:53 PM

Why not try on Serge's board.. ? :P

Donny 04-23-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Yes, that is why.

Six fuckin' years in this business without a single lawsuit...

everyone calling me Donovan Phillips so that religious fanatics can't find my real name and harm my little boy by ending up at my ex-wife's door looking for me (she still has her phone registered in both our names, as well as her address)...

... not a single blemish on my record. I shoot softcore photos to avoid any problems....

no this fuckin' BULL SHIT

AND, to top it all off, I can't find the damn RELEASE! I have the ID and email notification from CCBill that she signed up as an affiliate of my pay site, but can't find the fuckin' release. That's why I need to contact Lady Law.

What if I am not able to find it? I didn't archive it because I never shot her for any of my clients (only two clients wanted her and one had a stipulation that she'd have to shoot boy/girl). When a client asks for a shoot of a model I archive her photos and all legal docs onto DVD's that are stored in 2 different places.

But this girl never showed back up for her appointment. I never scanned or archived her release. Now I can't find it.

Fuck!!

Fletch XXX 04-23-2003 06:58 PM

Quote:

Though she had never undressed in front of a camera before, the 18-year-old said she agreed to it because "I needed the money" and she was impressed with a portfolio Pauling showed her of other "artistic and tasteful" nude photos he'd taken.
:1orglaugh

Donny 04-23-2003 07:11 PM

I should start a "legal defense fund" thread. PayPal email address: [email protected]



:Graucho

Gutterboy 04-23-2003 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by american perv
shit..

find the model releases and ids, then give the content away to tgp builders..

afuckingmen

Donny 04-23-2003 07:15 PM

Do I look like Jimmy Kimmel?

This story was picked up by Fark.com:

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comm...?IDLink=507709


One of their users wrote:

04-23-03 08:45:10 PM Reality-chainsaw
http://www.nakedcollegegirls.tv/index2.htm

Is it just me, or does Donovan Phillips look a lot like Jimmy Kimmel?

american pervert 04-23-2003 07:17 PM

it was also on billy wildhack

psyko514 04-23-2003 07:20 PM

quoted from fark:


Quote:

...she claims she was assured the "artistic" photos would only be shown to "a few select clients."

Otherwise known as the "members only" section.

RottenPug 04-23-2003 07:27 PM

Best of luck with the case if you need anything let me know.
Also try contacting Richard Chapo if you need advice in a hurry

http://www.adultinternetlaw.com

Donny 04-23-2003 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RottenPug
Best of luck with the case if you need anything let me know.
Also try contacting Richard Chapo if you need advice in a hurry

http://www.adultinternetlaw.com

If you're with AdultInternetLaw.com I definitely want to talk to you.

ICQ: 92432224

[email protected]

RottenPug 04-23-2003 07:41 PM

Not with them, I have had some work done by him. Here is the contact info from the site

E-mail: [email protected]


5473 Kearny Villa Road, Ste. 210
San Diego, California 92123
858-427-2170


Richards Email is rac1867 at yahoo dot com

T - Bone 04-23-2003 07:53 PM

I just finished up at Chico. I can just see this 18yr old broad getting harassed by her classmates...

She's just looking for more money and so are her parents.

Find the release and don't give her shit.

UnseenWorld 04-23-2003 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
You got to be careful with models guys. Very careful. They can bite you in the butt with all kinds of bullshit claims. Take standard model releases and ramp them up to the max with as many extra clauses as you can covering everything especially full disclosure on the use of the pics.
Well, complicated and overly-legalistic releases can bite you in the ass as well. A model who's being paid say $150 to $300 can't be expected to run to an attorney to pore over the release and give her his opinion or she'd end up with no money of her own, and probably a large legal bill. It would be easy for a judge to decide to set the release aside, especially since a pretty young woman is a much more sympathetic person than a "pornographer."

The release should be written in English, not legal, and it should be clear that she is giving up ALL rights over the photos, how they are used, in what context they are used, with what text they are used, and so on. She further has no rights over how the photos are modified and she grants that these rights are transferrable to anyone who comes to own the photos later one.

As I tell models, "The purpose of the release is to leave you with nothing but your fee." (In fact, it's probably the one document a girl will be confronted with that there is no point in reading other than to look for loopholes.) A good release is already her worst case scenario.

Like any legally binding document, what was said outside the release is irrelevant. As I write in advice to models on my model site at ModelsPDX.com:

1) don't do anything you wouldn't want anyone to know about
2) ask where and how the photos will be used
3) read the release before the shoot and assume that anything it allows will happen sooner or later
4) then, decide if it's something you want to do, and have the nerve to say no

modF 04-23-2003 08:06 PM

You make me want to go out and buy a filing cabinet and actually use it :)

Good luck w/ it though...

Donny 04-23-2003 08:37 PM

Donovan:

A quick bit of advice. Everything that you say on the boards or in email is admissible evidence. Plaintiff's counsel will simply subpoena all emails and chat board submissions. I suggest you stop communicating this way to anyone but your legal counsel. If the Plaintiff's counsel contacts you, refer him to me. Do not talk to him any further.

R
Richard A. Chapo, Esq.
AdultInternetLaw.com
5473 Kearny Villa Road, Ste. 210
San Diego, California 92123
858-427-2170


I guess I have to shut up now.

T - Bone 04-23-2003 09:42 PM

That's a sure fire way to kill a thread... :1orglaugh


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