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  • roganoli
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 757

    #1

    No more money in porn

    Sorry... Its true!
  • incredibleworkethic
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2009
    • 2298

    #2
    Lol, off to the atm to remove cams money ;)!

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    • pimpmaster9000
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      • Dec 2011
      • 26730

      #3
      sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...
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      • Paul Markham
        Too old to care
        • Jun 2001
        • 52942

        #4
        There's still money in recorded porn. It's on the large tubes.



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        • PaperstreetWinston
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          • Jan 2014
          • 2604

          #5
          Originally posted by crucifissio
          sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...
          Exca-fucking-actly!!!
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          • bronco67
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2006
            • 29026

            #6
            If there's no money in porn, then why is there a steady stream of porn coming out every day with hotter than ever girls doing nastier than ever things? It's impossible to keep up with this "no money" business.

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            • adultchatpay
              Let's Make Money
              • Dec 2008
              • 8775

              #7
              There is still money in porn but it's not the old days anymore. If you are creative and innovative, you will still make lots of money in porn.

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              • mopek1
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2004
                • 3198

                #8
                Aside from tubes, who's making big money in porn?

                I see LOTS of programs closing (the big ones too) and very few opening.

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                • wehateporn
                  Promoting Debate on GFY
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 27176

                  #9
                  The more creative ones are still selling, but not the ones who do standard stuff

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                  • CaptainHowdy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 94026

                    #10
                    There is money to be made, unfortunately you now have to work for it.

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                    • yuu.design
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 25308

                      #11
                      another one crying about that
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                      • adultwebmestar
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 222

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mopek1
                        Aside from tubes, who's making big money in porn?

                        I see LOTS of programs closing (the big ones too) and very few opening.
                        ad companies, exoclick, popads etc. and some dating sites with fake profiles, regional escort agencies, sites

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                        • MedCash_Miller
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 263

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                          There is money to be made, unfortunately you now have to work for it.
                          (not unfortunate for the hungry)
                          Last edited by MedCash_Miller; 08-17-2017, 06:41 AM. Reason: needed to add an important point
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                          • brassmonkey
                            Pay It Forward
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 77385

                            #14
                            Originally posted by yuu
                            another one crying about that
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                            • Bladewire
                              StraightBro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 56220

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                              sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...
                              ^^^ Truth


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                              • celandina
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 11710

                                #16
                                Stop:

                                1) stealing content,
                                2) skimming off ugly cam girls,
                                3) promote dating sites with three legged lady and 1000 guys pretending to be women,
                                4) launch another tube ( also see # 1)
                                5) "pray"to fads like 3D or VR
                                6) push another solo site
                                7) push another escort site with ...oh see #3)

                                There may be more but these are the main ones.

                                Instead, be creative and make an priginal content and you will be OK.

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                                • Hannes
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2016
                                  • 1594

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                  sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...
                                  couldn't agree more
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                                  • st0ned
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2007
                                    • 8437

                                    #18
                                    Times have definitely changed but as long as you learn to adapt there is still plenty of money to be made.
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                                    • mopek1
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 3198

                                      #19
                                      With decreasing revenue expectations yearly I don't believe the effort is worth it.

                                      Adapt all you wish (which is a good strategy) but at one point the treadmill you're running on will be going too fast - meaning the return you get for the effort put in won't be worth it, compared to other ways of making money.

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                                      • roganoli
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 757

                                        #20
                                        Ratios are terrible these days and Google not like porn anymore...

                                        Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up

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                                        • mopek1
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 3198

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by roganoli

                                          Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up
                                          I didn't hear about that. Too bad. But I'm not surprised.

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                                          • CaptainHowdy
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 94026

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by roganoli
                                            Ratios are terrible these days and Google not like porn anymore...

                                            Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up
                                            It ain't bad to give up ...

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                                            • Zeiss
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2012
                                              • 5189

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                                              sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...


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                                              • The Porn Nerd
                                                Living The Dream
                                                • Jun 2009
                                                • 19780

                                                #24
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                                                • mopek1
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 3198

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                  sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...
                                                  I don't buy that.

                                                  Lots of smart and hardworking webmasters have left. Lots of hardworking companies with original content closed up shop long ago. I mean almost a decade ago because they saw the coming of the tubes and felt they couldn't be profitable.

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                                                  • Joe Obenberger
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 466

                                                    #26
                                                    There's always room at the top.

                                                    Go tell that defeatist stuff to the guy who created Blacked, Tushy, and other sites.


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                                                    • RyuLion
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 32364

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                      There's still money in recorded porn. It's on the large tubes.
                                                      Also on Torrents, blogs and forums..

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                                                      • hdbuilder
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                                                        • Jun 2012
                                                        • 1338

                                                        #28
                                                        Still plenty in cams, you should try it...

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                                                        • GAMEFINEST
                                                          Make STACK$
                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                          • 14470

                                                          #29
                                                          Good luck to the winners
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                                                          • dillfly2000
                                                            hey
                                                            • Mar 2012
                                                            • 2209

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by roganoli
                                                            Sorry... Its true!
                                                            South Korea disagrees, it's mostly banned there but the money keeps flowing.
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                                                            • NatalieK
                                                              Natalie K
                                                              • Apr 2010
                                                              • 19825

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by roganoli
                                                              Ratios are terrible these days and Google not like porn anymore...

                                                              Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up
                                                              what a load of BS. My ratio´s still around 1:300, you need to generate traffic of real people & send that traffic to a converting site, a site with regular updates & fresh content
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                                                              • roganoli
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                • 757

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                what a load of BS. My ratio´s still around 1:300, you need to generate traffic of real people & send that traffic to a converting site, a site with regular updates & fresh content
                                                                Fake news...

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                                                                • mechanicvirus
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 4120

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Having the best year ever, even on a non ssl site!!!! Guess some people just cant sell stuff i dunno.

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                                                                  • mopek1
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 3198

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                    what a load of BS. My ratio´s still around 1:300, you need to generate traffic of real people & send that traffic to a converting site, a site with regular updates & fresh content
                                                                    Really?

                                                                    Let's see if I have any of those...

                                                                    1- Real traffic ... yes.
                                                                    2- Converting site with updates and fresh content.... none that I can see.

                                                                    Show me what converts at 1:300 these days. Many of the really big players are gone or dying and a ton of the smaller ones are long gone.

                                                                    I'd love to see what converts at 1:300 that is NOT ultra filtered.

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                                                                    • mopek1
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                                      • 3198

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by mechanicvirus
                                                                      Having the best year ever,
                                                                      Selling porn memberships?

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                                                                      • mopek1
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 3198

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                        sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...
                                                                        People who could only pick low hanging fruit were gone by 2010.

                                                                        The programs themselves have disappeared and the ones left are on life support with few exceptions.

                                                                        Tubes still make money and that's about it as far as being able to profit from adult. But they make it by selling traffic to people who push dating, not by selling porn memberships.

                                                                        The money in porn is now traffic and dating. And those are starting to dwindle as well.

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                                                                        • CPA-Rush
                                                                          small trip to underworld
                                                                          • Mar 2012
                                                                          • 4927

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                          People who could only pick low hanging fruit were gone by 2010.

                                                                          The programs themselves have disappeared and the ones left are on life support with few exceptions.

                                                                          Tubes still make money and that's about it as far as being able to profit from adult. But they make it by selling traffic to people who push dating, not by selling porn memberships.

                                                                          The money in porn is now traffic and dating. And those are starting to dwindle as well.
                                                                          well said , there is till money but it's hard and you need to fight everyday unless you come with super creative solution . you cant make money with skilled hard work from free content like few years ago .

                                                                          even cams are not good as 2012-2014 , i see some advertisers spend 50,000 dollars a month to invest in generic traffic that could give RIO after half decade or not ,nothing instant and without spending it's impossible these advertisers also after low signals it's just tell you how adult verticals doing now. i tested those sources then i got my campaigns blocked . very rich...

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                                                                          • ErectMedia
                                                                            Confirmed Chicago Pimp
                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                            • 7100

                                                                            #38
                                                                            2003 lot of pay site income
                                                                            today most of my adult income is in cams and selling advertising
                                                                            do mainstream shit as well

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                                                                            • Axeman
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 5201

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                              Really?

                                                                              Let's see if I have any of those...

                                                                              1- Real traffic ... yes.
                                                                              2- Converting site with updates and fresh content.... none that I can see.

                                                                              Show me what converts at 1:300 these days. Many of the really big players are gone or dying and a ton of the smaller ones are long gone.

                                                                              I'd love to see what converts at 1:300 that is NOT ultra filtered.
                                                                              Since April 15th when we got the new responsive tours up, our ratios are:

                                                                              KarupsHA - 1:357
                                                                              KarupsOW - 1:459
                                                                              KarupsPC - 1:628
                                                                              BFCollection - 1:411

                                                                              That is the overall ratios on all types of traffic.
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                                                                              • ruff
                                                                                I have a plan B
                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                • 5499

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Porn money is like Bitcoin money, not morally correct. God is coming and he's going to shit on your pizza.
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                                                                                • j3rkules
                                                                                  VIP
                                                                                  • Jul 2013
                                                                                  • 22101

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  No money for losers.


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                                                                                  • mopek1
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                    • 3198

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Axeman
                                                                                    Since April 15th when we got the new responsive tours up, our ratios are:

                                                                                    KarupsHA - 1:357
                                                                                    KarupsOW - 1:459
                                                                                    KarupsPC - 1:628
                                                                                    BFCollection - 1:411

                                                                                    That is the overall ratios on all types of traffic.
                                                                                    ALL types of traffic?

                                                                                    I just have a hard time believing that. The first link goes to a site that has the title, "Home Town Amateurs" yet the actors look nothing like amateurs. It's good content but nothing that hasn't been done many times over the last decade.

                                                                                    I'd be happy with 1:2000 and I have amateur traffic. Real people no bots, trades etc... My best ratios with highly targeted traffic to amateur programs which fit perfectly with my domains (you can't get a better match) are 1:7000 ...

                                                                                    Unless your traffic is so filtered - meaning it's really 1:8000 but by filtering and filtering some more you dwindle it down to 1:400 then I get it. But even organic traffic sent to those tours won't give you 1:400.

                                                                                    I wish it were the case still.

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                                                                                    • CrazyMartin
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2009
                                                                                      • 340

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      atk converts the same as Karups

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                                                                                      • mopek1
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                                        • 3198

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by CrazyMartin
                                                                                        atk converts the same as Karups

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                                                                                        • Denny
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 17401

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                          Who are atk?
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                                                                                          • mopek1
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                                            • 3198

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Denny
                                                                                            Thanks.

                                                                                            I can't see how that converts at 1:500 or less.

                                                                                            I can find almost any content I want on Tumblr for free. Then there's reddit and forums and lets not forget tubes.

                                                                                            Why would someone pay for that when hundreds of thousands of videos and video clips like it are available free.

                                                                                            Is there anything that most program owners and webmasters are missing that Karups and ATK have figured out?

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                                                                                            • emill
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2010
                                                                                              • 551

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              end of great eara in porn, now is all free noone want to buy porn

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                                                                                              • tobedeleted
                                                                                                Pay Per Minute Products
                                                                                                • Nov 2015
                                                                                                • 299

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                When it comes to straight-up membership sites I have seen 'some' money. But it has to be exclusive and very niche. And you have to find just the right audience. You can't just throw up a general porn site and skim tube traffic and convert.

                                                                                                But the problem is that the ROI is so bad that it pretty much makes any wise Webmaster stop before they even get started. If you know that you will most likely spend more than you will make (and this includes time) and you are technically in a market that is quickly going extinct, then whats the point?

                                                                                                As an experiment I started a few member sites hoping that there may still be some money in it. Also the fact that many membership sites have closed lessens the competition. And I did make some money and I'm sure if I worked everyday constantly I could get enough rebills to make some decent passive income, but it's a big IF and does not really seem worth the time anymore. Because like many have already said, you can find virtually anything for free so what's the point.

                                                                                                And for those sites that are still doing well, I wonder how many of their members even know they are members. I used to make money from people that were members for years that never even logged in. They just joined one night, had fun and forgot they ever joined and never got around to cancelling. I even sent out announcements but they probably were never read or went to spam.

                                                                                                Even selling traffic will eventually die out because if it does not convert (because no one buys anything), then people will see no return and stop buying.

                                                                                                It's kinda funny but when tubes came out I thought that it was the anti-porn people that started them. Because what better way to kill an industry then give it all away for free.

                                                                                                Money is still there, but it has to be interactive or tangible.

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                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 18361

                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • Spunky
                                                                                                    I need a beer
                                                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                                                    • 133978

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Money is over rated

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