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kmanrox 04-19-2003 09:15 AM

Pre-Pay a NEW Designer? S.O.P.?
 
i have a designer with an impressive portfolio that i want to do some work for me, he is new to the adult biz, so he doesnt know who I am, I even took the time to give him references of the top guys in the biz and he tells me he can't do it unless I pre-pay....

Am I crazy for thinking he's crazy? He's a newb who nobody knows, and I'm supposed to prepay him? It's only a $225 job, but hey....

Brujah 04-19-2003 09:17 AM

If he's really good, for $225.. take the chance.

EscortBiz 04-19-2003 09:19 AM

im sure many good designers here would do work for you without you having to prepay!

kmanrox 04-19-2003 09:20 AM

hmm, i've worked with Quashe, Hungryman, dg-designs, marian@madthumbs, freelancers, and i have never been asked for prepayment.... i am offended.... am i wrong to be offended?

znoz 04-19-2003 09:21 AM

do a 50/50 or demand to see alittle progress to make sure he really is a designer instead of some shithead using others sites in his folio.

- Anders

Ludedude 04-19-2003 09:22 AM

Prepay 100%? No. I'd offer to pay half and then the other half on delivery of a final approved product.

Don't be offended; he doesn't know you, you don't know him, why should either one of you feel you're taking a risk? Give him a deposit on the work and you'll both feel better.

znoz 04-19-2003 09:24 AM

I think your wrong to be offended, i usally take cash upfront, at my first go on design 3 years ago i got fucked over 5 times or something in a week (was building my folio).

Cindyff 04-19-2003 09:25 AM

I agree 50% upfront sound right if they dont like it try someone else
Cindy xx

SothArtist 04-19-2003 09:30 AM

I would go with someone else. He is just taking liberties. He can set it up so you can view the final product but not get it till payment. Where as you have no real come back if you pay him up front and he doesn't deliver.

Kristoffer 04-19-2003 09:31 AM

I would demand the customer to prepeay no matter who he is

lEricPl 04-19-2003 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SothArtist
I would go with someone else. He is just taking liberties. He can set it up so you can view the final product but not get it till payment. Where as you have no real come back if you pay him up front and he doesn't deliver.
So he wastes his time with no guarantee of payment?

Bullshit.

Give him 50%

kmanrox 04-19-2003 09:43 AM

i just took the 50/50 advise and made the deal, thx... Quashe is busy on frontends so i needed a backup to do members areas.... thx for the advice... time to get hammered and put on my Jesus PostBot v6.9

Pete 04-19-2003 09:44 AM

Fuckem, dont prepay anything. When the job is done to your specs, hand him the cash.

12clicks 04-19-2003 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
hmm, i've worked with Quashe, Hungryman, dg-designs, marian@madthumbs, freelancers, and i have never been asked for prepayment.... i am offended.... am i wrong to be offended?
dude, you're a malaysian tool. why would you be offended?
:1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 04-19-2003 09:45 AM

Hustle em till he does for free like all the other designers...

Sheezuz whats the matter with you guys?

kmanrox 04-19-2003 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


dude, you're a malaysian tool. why would you be offended?
:1orglaugh

ive been doing this for too many years to have my credibility questioned, perhaps it's just a big ego, i just cant stand newbs who think they're special...

12clicks 04-19-2003 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox


ive been doing this for too many years to have my credibility questioned, perhaps it's just a big ego, i just cant stand newbs who think they're special...

hire someone else. then he won't be a newb, he'll be gone.

kmanrox 04-19-2003 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
hire someone else. then he won't be a newb, he'll be gone.
will you make me a members area in MSPaint pls?

SothArtist 04-19-2003 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lEricPl


So he wastes his time with no guarantee of payment?

Bullshit.

Give him 50%

Did I say not to do 50/50? I don't think so

znoz 04-19-2003 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox


will you make me a members area in MSPaint pls?

I can make you a members area in photoshop if that will do.. i'll even let you pay me after its done - since its YOU ;)

12clicks 04-19-2003 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox


will you make me a members area in MSPaint pls?

Dude, I use MScrayon but if you want I can:Graucho

SGS 04-19-2003 10:14 AM

If its a guy calling himself Ironhorse he will put together a nice little "client page" for you:

http://www.sexymojo.com/design/clien...rs/index.shtml

but he will still fuck off into the distance with your money 50%/100% upfront whatever... :2 cents:

Ludedude 04-19-2003 10:18 AM

Here you go Kman...no charge since you're so special ;)

http://www.iveseenbigger.com/mspaintporn/index2.html

TheViper 04-19-2003 10:32 AM

I would ask for a down payment kmanrox :winkwink:

kmanrox 04-19-2003 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheViper
I would ask for a down payment kmanrox :winkwink:
go away, you're the devil

:thumbsup

TheViper 04-19-2003 10:35 AM

:feels-hot

kmanrox 04-19-2003 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude
Here you go Kman...no charge since you're so special ;)

http://www.iveseenbigger.com/mspaintporn/index2.html

LoL!!

i wonder if that'd sell

Fletch XXX 04-19-2003 10:43 AM

if youre the one asking him for work hes the one callin the shots. Youre looking at his work, and chose him, just pay the guy. You came to HIM for work based on his TALENT, if you value that talent, just pay the guy.

i know when i schedule, its 'who is paying that comes first.'

sounds fair, you already said he doesnt know who YOU are.

Why is he supposed to take a chance?

Id say he's playing the game smart. Give him a break, he doesnt know you or your rep, or the people you sent him to, think about it, you sent him to a bunch of adult references, that doesnt mean shit to him, he doesnt have any idea who or what they are worth.

id say just give the guy 50% man..



:thumbsup

Darren 04-19-2003 11:17 AM

50 / 50 is normal covers both of ya, surely u know that ?

Ironhorse 05-05-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS
If its a guy calling himself Ironhorse he will put together a nice little "client page" for you:

http://www.sexymojo.com/design/clien...rs/index.shtml

but he will still fuck off into the distance with your money 50%/100% upfront whatever... :2 cents:

In an attempt to clear my name, I have posted a full explanation for my dissappearance in this thread: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=131136

I am currently working things out with the involved parties/clients. It was never my intent to 'run away' with their deposits or leave the work incomplete.

harvey 05-05-2003 04:26 PM

it's a common usage in non-adult design to charge 50/50 or 33/33/33 (pre-on sight-on delivery), and really good designers usually ask 100% upfront. Anyway, I don't see where's the problem since you can chargeback what you paid. I'm sure there's not a single designer here that didn't get screwed doing jobs and not being paid. So the only one taking risks here is the designer, therefore, what's the problem in paying upfront, specially for something that you know is good? Is not like you won't pay for it, and I don't know what work do you need, but for 225 bucks... man, when I need something well done, I don't even blink to invest such a little amount, leave it for crappy designers asking thousands of dollars! :glugglug

NBDesign 05-05-2003 04:31 PM

I never take a new client with out 50% down. I do not care who you are. I have had a Chamber of commerce rip me off and someone I thought I was a friend. Unless we have done business in the past... forget it.

I would rather not have the job rather than do all the work and not get paid.

If you like their work, it should not matter if they are new to the adult biz or not. Good is good.:2 cents:

NBDesign 05-05-2003 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by harvey
I don't see where's the problem since you can chargeback what you paid.
Not here... Comapny check or money order from new clients only! :thumbsup

MCsteve-matrix 05-05-2003 04:49 PM

50% upfront guarantees I start work the other 50% upon completion guarantees i finish.

TheViper 05-05-2003 04:56 PM

everything worked out well eh kman :winkwink:

NBDesign 05-05-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MCsteve-matrix
50% upfront guarantees I start work the other 50% upon completion guarantees i finish.
This is a better way to put it... thank you! :thumbsup


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