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Adult-biz 05-21-2017 11:02 AM

The Booming Heroin Business in the U.S
 
Worth a read -

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...ing-in-america

onwebcam 05-21-2017 11:25 AM

No mention of the Afghan Poppy fields our troops have been protecting for over a decade?

Relic 05-21-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21782089)
No mention of the Afghan Poppy fields our troops have been protecting for over a decade?

Not on Bloomberg.

brassmonkey 05-21-2017 06:56 PM

chicago and new york are the best spot if you have enforcers. i mean you can clock dollaz as long as you stand out there. problem is you may short stop another click and boom. a small hole can bring in 20k plus a nite!

kane 05-21-2017 07:03 PM

It's only going to get worse. As they make it harder and harder to get opioid painkillers addicts will turn to heroin.

Trump just announced that they will start going hard after drugs and seeking max sentences. . . because that has worked so well for the last 40+ years.

If they want to stop this problem they need to start with the demand and seek treatment, not jail, for addicts.

alastik 05-21-2017 07:57 PM

Saw the picture at the top of the article and was like "Damnit. Of course."

It's really, really bad here in SW Ohio. There's overdoses every day on the news and we usually get a couple of people who OD while on the road a month (that they report on). Yesterday there was a 5 year old who took off down the street barefoot to find help for their parents who had ODed.

I guess the cops are doing "best they can" but I wonder because you can camp out across from any gas station near the interstate and watch deals go down all day long.

brassmonkey 05-21-2017 08:10 PM

when the step on it who know what they add. could be pills or anything. sometimes they do mean stuff and put E or some other shit in there. like ocycotin
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Originally Posted by alastik (Post 21783214)
Saw the picture at the top of the article and was like "Damnit. Of course."

It's really, really bad here in SW Ohio. There's overdoses every day on the news and we usually get a couple of people who OD while on the road a month (that they report on). Yesterday there was a 5 year old who took off down the street barefoot to find help for their parents who had ODed.

I guess the cops are doing "best they can" but I wonder because you can camp out across from any gas station near the interstate and watch deals go down all day long.


notinmybackyard 05-21-2017 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21783157)
seek treatment, not jail, for addicts.

Just execute the addicts. Get caught using drugs and get the death penalty. Sooner or later the problem will disappear.

kane 05-21-2017 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 21783223)
Just execute the addicts. Get caught using drugs and get the death penalty. Sooner or later the problem will disappear.

Saudi Arabia executes people for drug crimes. From Jan-May of 2015 alone they execute 84 people for drug crimes. These people didn't get a trial. They were arrested and beheaded, in some cases publicly.

Guess what has happened in that country? Drug use, especially among young people, has actually gone up.

Executing addicts won't work and, frankly, is a stupid idea.

Bladewire 05-21-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21782089)
No mention of the Afghan Poppy fields our troops have been protecting for over a decade?

Russian troops protecting Afghan poppy fields, interesting

You love spreading that anti American propoganda here.

brassmonkey 05-21-2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21783265)
Saudi Arabia executes people for drug crimes. From Jan-May of 2015 alone they execute 84 people for drug crimes. These people didn't get a trial. They were arrested and beheaded, in some cases publicly.

Guess what has happened in that country? Drug use, especially among young people, has actually gone up.

Executing addicts won't work and, frankly, is a stupid idea.

they also marry pre teen girls you kool with that?

kane 05-21-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21783280)
they also marry pre teen girls you kool with that?

Not at all. What makes you think I would be?

alastik 05-21-2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21783220)
when the step on it who know what they add. could be pills or anything. sometimes they do mean stuff and put E or some other shit in there. like ocycotin

Yeah, that's been the problem. Specifically with Carfentanil which a lot of dope boys were selling straight away uncut when it first hit this area. Earlier this week news hit of some assholes cutting cocaine with it which is aggravated murder as far as I'm concerned. That stuff is super deadly. A cop about an hour from here almost died earlier this week from a Carfentanil OD and all he did was brush the shit off his shirt.

just a punk 05-21-2017 10:40 PM

Wait for AIDS epidemic then. It always follows the heroine one.

gnawledge 05-22-2017 03:24 AM

The neighboring county to where I live is heroin/overdose capital of Florida. Not only are they dropping like flies from that, the heroin is mixed with fentanyl.

They actually sell narcan or equivalents at local flea markets.

People are overdosing in bathrooms and in cars everywhere.

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notinmybackyard 05-22-2017 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21783265)
Saudi Arabia executes people for drug crimes. From Jan-May of 2015 alone they execute 84 people for drug crimes. These people didn't get a trial. They were arrested and beheaded, in some cases publicly.

Guess what has happened in that country? Drug use, especially among young people, has actually gone up.

Executing addicts won't work and, frankly, is a stupid idea.

They're obviously doing a half ass'd job. They just need to step up the executions and make them public. After that put their heads on display in the center of town and outside high schools, universities, etc.

Then only the suicidal will abuse drugs.

JFK 05-22-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21783265)
Saudi Arabia executes people for drug crimes. From Jan-May of 2015 alone they execute 84 people for drug crimes. These people didn't get a trial. They were arrested and beheaded, in some cases publicly.

Guess what has happened in that country? Drug use, especially among young people, has actually gone up.

Executing addicts won't work and, frankly, is a stupid idea.

Its about the pushers, not the users:2 cents:

CurrentlySober 05-22-2017 06:14 AM

i cunt a4d2do heroin... :(

DraX 05-22-2017 06:25 AM

The war on drugs...

This topic is something I'd like to see Trump try to combat. A new plan, a new perspective on things. For real...no joking around...:2 cents:

Horatio Caine 05-22-2017 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21783148)
chicago and new york are the best spot if you have enforcers. i mean you can clock dollaz as long as you stand out there. problem is you may short stop another click and boom. a small hole can bring in 20k plus a nite!

did you get erected or somfins?

escorpio 05-22-2017 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 21783730)
i cunt a4d2do heroin... :(

Stay away from heroin. It causes constipation. :(

escorpio 05-22-2017 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 21783148)
chicago and new york are the best spot if you have enforcers. i mean you can clock dollaz as long as you stand out there. problem is you may short stop another click and boom. a small hole can bring in 20k plus a nite!

Word on the streets.

kane 05-22-2017 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 21783721)
Its about the pushers, not the users:2 cents:

Because going after the pushers for the last 40+ years has worked swimmingly.

So long as there is a demand for the product there will be people who are willing to take the risk to supply it. To me, the only way to really reduce it is to try to cut the number of users so the pushers have nobody to sell to.

AndyA 05-22-2017 12:59 PM

As someone in the program I can tell you... 20 years ago rehab was 90% alcoholics and 10% everything else
now it's 20% alcoholics and 80% benzo addiction

it's the same story.. got hooked on painkillers which are basically heroin then when the doctor stops writing scrips on the street painkillers are sometimes $30 a PILL

some of these folks have a 50 or 60 pill a day addiction. Heroin is CHEAP CHEAP and gets them there faster

it's only going to get worse. When I was growing up I didn't know anyone that died... nowadays almost EVERY high schooler knows at least 1 kid dead of overdose

AndyA 05-22-2017 01:03 PM

jails are about 85% drug addicts.. it's a fucking crime

but now that Sessions that cunt is expanding the private prisons again that Obama was cutting they need to fill those jails

private prisons make MONEY.... and once something becomes a 'for profit' endeavor this is what happens..... Sessions wants to send as many drug addicts to prison as he can

hope they burn in hell

mineistaken 05-22-2017 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21783265)
Saudi Arabia executes people for drug crimes. From Jan-May of 2015 alone they execute 84 people for drug crimes. These people didn't get a trial. They were arrested and beheaded, in some cases publicly.

Guess what has happened in that country? Drug use, especially among young people, has actually gone up.

Executing addicts won't work and, frankly, is a stupid idea.

Really? Lets say you have a town and 1000 people now decides to start using drugs.
Introduce executing for using drugs and you claim that not only no less than 1000 people would do the same thing, but possibly even more?
What is the logic here? :1orglaugh

ps: surely that number would not go down to 0, but would go down very significantly.

mineistaken 05-22-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 21783721)
Its about the pushers, not the users:2 cents:

How so? No users pushers would not have a single customer.
Demand is there so obviously you get a supply, not the other way around.

kane 05-22-2017 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21784795)
Really? Lets say you have a town and 1000 people now decides to start using drugs.
Introduce executing for using drugs and you claim that not only no less than 1000 people would do the same thing, but possibly even more?
What is the logic here? :1orglaugh

ps: surely that number would not go down to 0, but would go down very significantly.

Do you want to live in a country where a biological disposition (the addition gene) can lead you to be executed?

Just look at the list of countries that execute people for drug crimes. With very few exceptions (and those exceptions typically are that there must be some kind of extreme case) those countries are all third world shitholes that given the choice, many people would rather not live in.

You might be okay with living in a country where the government can just decide one day to start executing people because they have a problem, but I don't want to. That is a slippery slope. What next? Are we going to execute all alcoholics? How about everyone who is overweight? Let's execute everyone who is addicted to tobacco, or gambling, or sex, or sugar, or anything.

If you killed 1000 people in one town for using drugs do you think that is going to stop addiction in other towns? Hell no. It likely wouldn't stop it in that town. Addiction destroys everything unless it is treated properly. If a guy is shooting heroin he knows he is doing something illegal and very dangerous, but they don't care. Telling them you will kill them if you catch them isn't going to stop them.

brassmonkey 05-22-2017 10:51 PM

just think this a serial killers wet dream! a big population he or she could kill at random no real trace of the crime :helpme:helpme:helpme

just a punk 05-22-2017 11:21 PM

Thank you America!

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notinmybackyard 05-23-2017 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21784837)
Do you want to live in a country where a biological disposition (the addition gene) can lead you to be executed?

Just look at the list of countries that execute people for drug crimes. With very few exceptions (and those exceptions typically are that there must be some kind of extreme case) those countries are all third world shitholes that given the choice, many people would rather not live in.

Having lived through the 1960's I'm no stranger to drugs and I've got some great memories of all night love-in's having sex with half a dozen women will on LSD. But I also really got into some serious drug experimenting and almost killed myself with the crap I was shooting into my veins. So I've been clean and sober since 1973 - NO Drugs, No Booze, No cigarettes, No Coffee

I've got a daughter born in 1972 that I only saw her for 5 minutes at her birth (I was stoned). I've sent her mother support checks since 1980 and she's never once cashed one. The message is clear "Stay the fuck away." Needless to say to this day there are people wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire.


Honestly for what I put my friends, family and my business associates through.. And I can't even imagine what how much I cost the taxpayer. Believe me I'm not joking when I say it would have been better for all of them had someone just put a bullet in my head.

Henceforth I stand by my comment, "Kill them all"

kane 05-23-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 21786019)
Having lived through the 1960's I'm no stranger to drugs and I've got some great memories of all night love-in's having sex with half a dozen women will on LSD. But I also really got into some serious drug experimenting and almost killed myself with the crap I was shooting into my veins. So I've been clean and sober since 1973 - NO Drugs, No Booze, No cigarettes, No Coffee

I've got a daughter born in 1972 that I only saw her for 5 minutes at her birth (I was stoned). I've sent her mother support checks since 1980 and she's never once cashed one. The message is clear "Stay the fuck away." Needless to say to this day there are people wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire.


Honestly for what I put my friends, family and my business associates through.. And I can't even imagine what how much I cost the taxpayer. Believe me I'm not joking when I say it would have been better for all of them had someone just put a bullet in my head.

Henceforth I stand by my comment, "Kill them all"

If you are sending checks to you EX to support your daughter, I would assume then that you still care about here and want her to be well. So, if she were to develop a drug problem, would you rather she go to rehab and get some treatment, or would you rather she just be executed?

notinmybackyard 05-23-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21787006)
If you are sending checks to you EX to support your daughter, I would assume then that you still care about here and want her to be well. So, if she were to develop a drug problem, would you rather she go to rehab and get some treatment, or would you rather she just be executed?

This Internet word spin game you're trying to pull doesn't work on me.

Grapesoda 05-23-2017 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SkimmedTraffic (Post 21782035)

it's probably just coincide that our sneaky dishonest types, special forces, cia etc are up to their necks in shady middle easterner types, where they grow heroin. what else could it be??

kane 05-23-2017 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notinmybackyard (Post 21787297)
This Internet word spin game you're trying to pull doesn't work on me.

It's no game. It's easy to say, "Execute addicts!" until one of those addicts is someone you love or care about.

brassmonkey 05-23-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21783760)
did you get erected or somfins?

nope just telling the truth. call the police there the number might be higher not lower

shiraz9944 05-23-2017 03:08 PM

https://www.facebook.com/Upworthy/vi...0171014357082/

Portugal had a 1% total population on heroin problem in 2000, they made it legal for ALL DRUGS, 10 day supply limit, and now they have 3 per million OD compared to 144 per million here in the US and 44 per million in the UK. The lowest in Europe.

They solved the drug problem so why can't we?

kane 05-23-2017 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shiraz9944 (Post 21787597)
https://www.facebook.com/Upworthy/vi...0171014357082/

Portugal had a 1% total population on heroin problem in 2000, they made it legal for ALL DRUGS, 10 day supply limit, and now they have 3 per million OD compared to 144 per million here in the US and 44 per million in the UK. The lowest in Europe.

They solved the drug problem so why can't we?

I've been using Portugal as a good example of a way to deal with drugs for a long time and most people blow me off by saying, "The US is much bigger, more culturally diverse country." I personally don't buy that. I think we could pick a place, try it out and see if it works. If it does we roll it out nationwide. The problem is that we have been fed lied and propaganda about the drug war our entire lives so there is a big segment of the population who thinks the only way to fix the problem is to lock more people up. When people have believed something their entire lives it is hard to change their minds.


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