The Truth and Lies of 911
 

If anyone wants to know the truth about 911, please do yourself a favor and buy the video that I link below. It is made by a former Narcotics Detective of the LAPD who was also recruited by the CIA. He has spent the last 20 years exposing the CIA for what it is and his presentation on 911 will blow you away.

HE ONLY USES GOVERNMENT PRESS RELEASES AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARTICLES to make his point. He essentially uses the very words of the establishment against them to point out the contradictions and join the dots.

THIS VIDEO WILL ALTER YOUR VIEW OF THE WORLD!!!!


BUY THIS FUCKING VIDEO!!!!!

If you are not blown away, WONTON WILL PERSONALLY REFUND YOUR MONEY!

The Truth and Lies of 911

I was not blown away. You can paypal my refund to me:

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My best friend's dad wrote this book, it's about 12 years old...but he delves into this CIA/Bush shit that we're all getting a good taste of now. He's told me some great stories...most of which would probably insite revolution if the sheep had any idea what really goes on.

Book Description
This is perhaps the most shocking book written this century about treason committed by the highest leaders within the U.S. Government. This disturbing and thought provoking expose, which few american know about, shows the truth about the drug running activities in behalf of the "secret" government". You will learn about the unsavory past of George Bush and his family, and well as the uncrupulous activities in which he has been involved.

About the Author
General Bowen is a retired Brigadier General who position with the Office of Security Services (OSS) and his drug running activities in behalf of the government and who has courageously come foward with the truth about his association.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

Dude, don't be so quick to blow this one off without actually seeing it. I saw the tape wonton is referring to at a friend's house about 2 months ago. All I can say is that it is the fucking scariest shit I hever seen in my life. No joke. By that, I simply mean how the guy is able to point out storied in the mainstream press, statements off of the government's own websites that proves, conclusively in my opininon, that Bush and Co are lying their asses off about 9-11.

I myself have not completely floated into the whole "conspiracy camp" thing but shit, there are some real serious questions to be answered. The only thing I know for sure at this point is that Bush and co are lying about 9-11 and elements of the media have spun the truth in order to camaflouge the deeper truth. Now I don't know know if Osama was behind 9-11 or not at this point. All I know is that Bush is suppressing a deeper truth that implicates, at least partially, the CIA. Who knows what is really going on.

Thanks for the link! Going there.

I have read a few books about Marlyn Monroe's death and there some pretty good insight about the cia.. Scary..

I blame Dr. Atkins for 9/11

HAHA I'm not falling for this.

Everyone knows the mainstream media is nothing but lies and propaganda. You can't use one lie to prove another lie is true. Or false. If in one place you post THE SKY IS GREEN and in another THE SKY IS PURPLE, I can't use either to prove the sky is actually blue and I can't use either to prove the sky is red.

You got suckered. LOL.

Don't be a sheep , it was Elvis! :glugglug

You still don't get it do you, Mr. FATpad?

It is not about using the media on one hand to prove a point and then on the other hand to say it is all lies.

Instead, what this presenter does is start off with the assumption that the media and government are both telling the TRUTH. He then simply points out holes in THEIR OWN ARTICLES that demonstrates egregious contradictions.

When someone contradicts themselves that simply means they are lying about something and, depending on the nature of the specific contradictions, it can be determined what that person is lying about or what truth that person is trying to surpress. This is done in a court of law ALL THE TIME.

Is this really all that hard to understand?

exactly.

but don't spoil all the fun for the tin foil hat crowd. they are simple people who are powerless, they can't do any harm so let them have their simple pleasures.

if its that good - rip it, and show it to us

IS the vidoe on Kazaa?

I've been looking...no luck yet.

It is against my personal philosophy to rip videos (gasp!), especially from an organization or person whom I have deep respect for.

I do not know if the video is on Kazaa.

But c'mon folks, surely if you are interested you can afford the $25? If you are on this board, I presume you are running a (successful) web enterprise?!?

:winkwink:

so remind me again why bush wanted to kill thousands of his innocent people and wreak havoc on the financial system that he supposedly benefits so much from?

Well, you would have to watch the video to get a very clear picture of that. But in a nutshell, it's not too hard to figure out the military gains that have occured since 9-11. The American people have given Bush and the Pentagon carte blanche to fight a "War on Terrorism" that in Bush's own words "...is not likely to be concluded in our lifetime."

What have all empires throughout history wanted the most?

Answer: military and economic conquest.

9-11 has given the powers that be an open ticket to wage war on any country in the world at any time. It has given us carte blanche to storm through the middle east and invade one oil-rich nation after another. It has given military industrialists billions, eventually TRILLIONS of dollars worth of contracts. Do you not see incredible gains for a small group of people? Is it so hard to believe that war is a major profit center for a small segment of the population? Is it so hard to believe that the powers that be would want or even catalyze events that could lead up to a 9-11?

In any scandal or probable scandal the cardinal rule is:

FOLLOW THE MONEY.

the war industrialists have always been given billions of dollars to make stuff, what's new there? look at the plane contracts and stuff that have been given out in recent years, prior to the terrorism parade.

and if all this was all big and what not, why did it only start with bush?

and economic conquest? i always hear the anti-bush advocates screaming how he's doing his damndest to destroy the economy. how does that help the US, and how does a bad economy help him?

heh. If you want the real story go to infowars.com.

:1orglaugh

Since 9-11, hundreds of billions of dollars more have been funnelled away from various segments of the economy and government coffers into the war-making chest. The military budget is ballooning from over $300 billion towards the $1 trillion mark within 10 years. It is a system of greed and war that is spiraling out of control and no, it did not begin with Bush. It is ending with Bush. The presidency of GW Bush is the final push towards an all-out military state. This is something that has been in the works for decades. To try and publish the reams of public information right here would be futile. But is all based on government docs that are freely avaiable through the Freedom of Information act.

For now, I will only concentrate on 9-11. For anyone that is interested and can read, check out this timeline, linked to the mainstream press and government press releases:


9-11 Timeline

You sincerely belive that he's doing what he's doing for the US?

mwahahaha! this is a US conspiracy and they're talking about the EU. fuck them, stay out of our plans!

The Bushes don't give a shit about the US and never had. Grandpa Bush, Prescott Bush, supplied 56% of the pig-iron to Nazi Germany DURING WORLD WAR II and was indicted by the federal government at that time. Papa Bush, while director of CIA and later Vice President was practically a business partner of Saddam Hussein and is a publicly acknlowledged business partner of the Bin Laden family through his defense company, the Carlyle Group. This stuff is all openly admitted. It's all out there in the mainstream press.

The Bushes are simply war profiteers. They make the cash and the powers that be in the Pentagon get their war. Everyone is happy - everyone except the people we invade.

no, i don't necessarily believe it, but how is it helping _him_. if he started this mess, and everything is going in the shitter, how does that help gwb?


he's not my favorite person, and i'm not saying it _isn't_ a possibility. i used to be quite the conspirist myself. but now i find it hard to believe that absolutely everything that the government, or corporations, or private individuals do is a conspiracy. that seems to be the trend these days. i just don't see that it would all be in their benefit.

This information is so important that it can only be made available for $24.95 a copy! (plus shipping & handling).

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well, i thought it had been established that bush was director of the cia during a different time than he was buddies with saddam. wasn't he director of the cia before saddam was in power?

how does bush himself profit from war? i thought he was in the oil business prior to his presidency, not the manufacturing of warring devices.

Bush was director of CIA during the 1970s. He helped put Saddam in power, keep him in power AND arm him to the teeth. Bush owns huge stakes in a number of defense contractors, the most prominant being the Carlyle Group. When war breaks out, he profits big time. He is worth billions upon billions of dollars and don't expect to see his net worth printed in Forbes magazine - a rag run by his fellow republican crony.

The individual who runs the site I referred you is not getting rich off of that video, I can assure you. He puts most of that money back into research and hiring of investigative journalists.

Plus, once you hear his story and judge for yourself, I am sure you will see that not only is the video worth every penny but you should also send this organization a donation if you are a patriotic American.

yay! more conspiracies!


anyways, ok, he helped saddam out. i don't see a problem with this. ever have a best friend steal your girl or something? the week before you would have dove in front of a bullet for that person, but this week you'd rather kill them. shit happens. hey, we're friends with the russians!

but, you're probably right. a man with billions upon billions of dollars has every reason to kill several thousand of his own people to make a couple more, instead of waiting a week for the interest to accrue.

especially if these are investments, that would make sense for crashing the stock market. he's got too much money invested, probably had to pay too much in taxes this year, so he thought he'd crash the market.

not a bad idea, i'll have to remember this if i go into politics.

but still, why would world domination be just a bush thing? i mean, something like this has to be orchestrated pretty well, but nearly instantly after he took office, he crashed the market and killed thousands. he's good.

Okay

Wonton, come on dude get real. Think about what you are implying here.

The CIA organized and planned 9/11? Don't give them that much credit. They still haven't even figured out who really killed JFK after 40 years has passed. :1orglaugh

Anything can be turned into a conspiracy these days because of the massive amounts of information overload around the entire world.

Conspiracy videos are big business. The sheep want to believe behind everything is an evil dark empire out to dominate the planet. :1orglaugh

When people become public officials, their investmens go into "blind trusts," which are managed in a manner that the owner of the trust doesn't know what is being done with the investments. So, for all practical purposes, Bush might not own a single thing he owned at the start of his term. He might have become heavily invested in instruments that are doing worse because of the war.

Of course, if you START OFF with the presumption that someone is evil and deceptive, then you will always assume the worst of them, which it seems you are always inclined to do.

please, don't tell me we landed on the moon :Oh crap

Don't make the mistake of judging the information before you see it. Nothing beats seeing it with your own eyes and ONLY THEN coming to a conclusion about the value of said information.

I am not inclinded to assume this. I have come to the conclusion I have after more than 10 years of academic and personal study of the military-industrial establishment.

Buy the video. Watch it. If you think I am still full of it, I will paypal you and refund you cash.

"military-industrial establishment"... i love that, it has such evil connotations. like "them", "the establishment", and all those other evil things. :glugglug

Fine. Call this group whatever you want to call it:

CIA
NSA
Pentagon
Major Defense Contractors

I don't really give a shit about semantics. Call them santa claus for all I care just make no mistake about what their agendas are.

For the same reason that he's grandfather bankrolled the Nazi's. FINANCIAL GAIN!

someone please rip this video.. and serve it up on kazaa

You bet your fucking ass they do. It's WIDELY suspected that the first George Bush played a role in it as well. I posted a link to a book above...if you don't want to spend $25 on the video. Spend $12 on the book and you'll probably shit yourself.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books

I watched every single congressional investigation into 9/11 on C-Span. The house intelligence committee as well as the Senate intelligence committee. One would have to be a total fool to believe that every single Democrat and every single Republican on these two committees, as well as every single CIA agent and FBI agent, as well as every single investigative reporter (that have their own sources), went along with a coverup of the events of 9/11.

I guess it's never possible that the media is incorrect in the reports and then corrects the report.. Not possible, never. No human can mess that up, it's not possible. I guess when AVN prints a reprint to fix a mistake, it was part of the over through of the US gov to mess with our minds.

Some of the stuff he says does sound true and some.. well.. It's easy to prove him wrong just research the documents, acts and laws that he talks about. Most never went all the way through, most are write up's from higher profile people that he takes one or two lines from the document and says, hey this is proof see.

If you look up the document and read it... Well it shows a different story, normally the person is speaking out saying this is the possible or the maybe, not the fact.

After all a conspiracy theorist could never be incorrect. My only question is, why is it called a theory if we can tell by you that it's all fact. Guess we should say conspiracy facts.

The Gov is jacked up, does fucked up stuff and is killing our rights one day at a time. I could sit here all day and write up shit from that video and other videos I have seen and books... But now that I know, what does that change? Not a damn thing.

Why I don't come running to the board to post some new shit I found out, cause to be honest.. I can't prove theories.

Agreed... At the same time though the video does talk about documents from FBI and CIA agents that say they might have known about it, but not all of them. They never did say the twin towers was going to get hit by a fucking plane though.

Some of the events stated called out other cities and NOT NY. For the last 20 years they have been getting the same type of documents saying that someone was going to do this or do that.

If anything, watch the video, do some research and come up with your own ideas based off the documents and news sources that he produces.

They didn't. And that's the beauty of it.

As I said before, if you have not watched the particular video I am referring to, your comments are off the mark.

Thank you. That is all I am asking and I think it is reasonable.

Watch the video. Do some of your own research based on the public documents he outlines and THEN come to a final conclusion.

You have heard one side of the story (CNN, FOX, Ari Fliescher) now hear the other side and draw a conclusion based on all the pertinent facts.

Uh.. you're referring to the organization that JFK called, "The government behind his back"

and of course the fact that Johnson hired former CIA director Allen Dulles to help with the Warren Commission.
Gee.. Wonder why he would hire a guy that Kennedy fired not too long before the incident?

Nahh.. the CIA doesn't know a thing...

But.. that's a different 'conspiracy theory' .. :)

Look at history. The Nazi's burned down the Reichstag (the German Parliament) blamed it on the Soviets and used this as an excuse to shred the Weimar Constitution in the name of security.

Whats the only organization that benefited from 9/11? The Bush administration. His ratings soared; he was able pass thousands of pages of anti-constitutional laws without any resistance; and he successfully manipulated congress into giving him war powers.
Anyone that spoke against his actions was called anti-american or a traitor. How this can be looked upon as anything other than a power hungry dictator is beyond me.

People really need to wake up. I have no idea if the govt was behind 9/11 but Bush has without a doubt taken full advantage of the situation.

This isnt about money, it is about Bush believing he is doing Gods work, just as Bin Laden, Saddam, and Hitler believed. Nothing could be scarier, a man in control of the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world with 'Gods' voice in his head.

They know who killed JFK. It was the 2 male models on the grassy knoll... Remember in Zoolander...

Hehe.... They do know, it was allllllll about US mint plates. Print real American money and your bound to have problems come up.

Since I watched the hearings I know the truth about 9/11. It was not difficult to ascertain the truth about 9/11. As I have stated before I have read article after article and viewed several videos about the events of 9/11. I do not care to waste my money or any more of my time reading about someone elses "truth" about 9/11. The truth came out during the hearings and the truth was not good.

What is your theory TheKing?