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DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:10 PM

White Surpremecy
 
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White Surpremecy on Today's show
One god for Whites only? Jews,Children of Satan ? Execute gays as a form of government?
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[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:14 PM

A gay guy taking on Christian Identity theology, I wish I could tune in.

Unless you got some clergy on hand to counter the biblical rhetoric, you are gonna get schooled.

kenny 04-14-2003 02:15 PM

All people are created equal

[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenny
All people are created equal
Thats gonna be your defense? He is gonna use the Torah to rip that to fucking shreds.

Is this about your opinion or biblical truth as he interprets it?

Now I may have listen in.

You have to use the bible to fight someone using the bible as their weapon. If not, you lose.

playa 04-14-2003 02:19 PM

I would like them to explain how jesus could be white

kenny 04-14-2003 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Thats gonna be your defense? He is gonna use the Torah to rip that to fucking shreds.

Is this about your opinion or biblical truth as he interprets it?

Now I may have listen in.

You have to use the bible to fight someone using the bible as their weapon. If not, you lose.

Me quote from the bible? I surrender...

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:24 PM

This Group is on the show today , and this is not the first hard hitting show that I have ever done, in fact this is not the first hard hitting thing in my life, being gay , like me, you seem to get those.
I however can handle this, they are crazy !

[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
I would like them to explain how jesus could be white
http://www.christianseparatist.org/o...hitejesus.html

The reference to Josephus is a nice touch. Using a famous Jewish historian to hammer home your point. class.

kenny 04-14-2003 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarrenAustin
This Group is on the show today , and this is not the first hard hitting show that I have ever done, in fact this is not the first hard hitting thing in my life, being gay , like me, you seem to get those.
I however can handle this, they are crazy !

I don't know bro, thats kind of like trying to pale out all the water in the ocean.

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:28 PM

Labret
GREAT point!!

Jesus was also a jew, and this insane group does not like them .
Todays show is going to be very interesting, you really should call in!!

You are strong

[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarrenAustin
Labret
GREAT point!!

Jesus was also a jew, and this insane group does not like them .
Todays show is going to be very interesting, you really should call in!!

You are strong

oh you are in over your head on this one. Im sure he will explain it all to you. point by point, verse by verse. ahahahaha

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:30 PM

You maybe right,
come and listen though. if anything , this sure makes one stronger.

rooster 04-14-2003 02:31 PM

jesus rebeled against the jewish temple system. thats why he was killed.

Jews also dont consider jesus the messiah.

playa 04-14-2003 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


http://www.christianseparatist.org/o...hitejesus.html

The reference to Josephus is a nice touch.

LOL,, nice try, it's a stretch ain't it?

last time i looked at the people living in the middle east they sure as hell don't look white anglo to me. unless of course there was some mass exodus of white people going to europe

drops 04-14-2003 02:32 PM

Right on Darren...

This should be one of your best shows!

SpaceAce 04-14-2003 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


http://www.christianseparatist.org/o...hitejesus.html

The reference to Josephus is a nice touch. Using a famous Jewish historian to hammer home your point. class.

Haha, I like that. They managed to find three passages stating that David was white and put it on a page titled "JESUS CHRIST WAS WHITE."

SpaceAce

[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa


LOL,, nice try, it's a stretch ain't it?


I dont know, kinda hard to argue with. He establishes Jesus is in the line of David (already a given), and then uses the Torah AND an independent Jewish historical source to identify the race of David.

Using two undeniably credible Jewish sources to establish that the line of David is / was white. Fucking hilarious.

The only way you could argue against it is if you find opposing passages in the Torah or in Josephus works. But if you do, you open a whole new can of worms.

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:38 PM

Drops!

Thx dude, I put allot of work into this show, I mean allot!

Undutchable 04-14-2003 02:39 PM

The bible can be used to fuck with Christians... I happen to know it quite well and have screwed with the minds of many clergymen. I dropped the habit though, somehow, religion has stopped intruiging me when I got older

I think the introduction of cars, pussy and money is responsible for that ;)

Gman.357 04-14-2003 02:41 PM

Some interesting insight into the opposite view:

http://www.melanet.com/clegg_series/wasjesusblack.html

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:41 PM

Wow I have heard a bunch of people say things like that and or close to to that.

[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gman.357
Some interesting insight into the opposite view:

http://www.melanet.com/clegg_series/wasjesusblack.html

His whole argument hinges on that Jesus was an Essene. Which cannot be proven with the Bible or historically.

And I see no references to the Torah anywhere as back up.

Quote:


MAAT: Speaking of references, do you have any sources that support your shocking revelations concerning the life of Jesus?

Geoghagen: I most assuredly do. The details of Jesus' life from ages 12 to 33 are documented in the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus The Christ by Levi. It gives an account of Jesus' interaction with his African masters and the teachings which they bestowed on him. Further, it documents the travels of Jesus from Africa to India and his eventual return to Africa; and confirms how Jesus acquired his cosmological world view in the process



riiiiight

Gman.357 04-14-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


His whole argument hinges on that Jesus was an Essene. Which cannot be proven with the Bible or historically. And the idea that the Essene were black is absurd.

And I see no references to the Torah anywhere as back up.

True. I haven't finished reading the entire interview yet, but you're correct.

dig420 04-14-2003 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Thats gonna be your defense? He is gonna use the Torah to rip that to fucking shreds.

Is this about your opinion or biblical truth as he interprets it?

Now I may have listen in.

You have to use the bible to fight someone using the bible as their weapon. If not, you lose.

Labret, I think this is the exact WRONG thing to do. The fact is, the Bible is a racist, homophobic, sexist document. It IS all the things these groups say it is, and the milquetoasts who try to pretend otherwise are the ones who are in the wrong.

You have to fight them from a humanist base, why fight bible experts with bible quotes? I prefer to use the old 'there are more Muslims than Christians' line, etc and so on, point out absurdities in the Bible and try to discredit it as a base for their reasoning.

I'm definitely going to watch the show though. Darren you're doing GREAT!!

Kimmykim 04-14-2003 02:50 PM

Woot woot!!! Can we get the guy from the Church of Satan back for a reprise this afternoon as well? I think they'd get on well with this group you have coming on today D ;)

See you there :)

rooster 04-14-2003 02:50 PM

i dont understand the point of all this. To somehow justify homosexuality?

Whether you use the bible, logic, biology, etc as your reasoning, its wrong or unnatural.

monsta 04-14-2003 02:52 PM

This world is based on hate!

dig420 04-14-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
i dont understand the point of all this. To somehow justify homosexuality?

Whether you use the bible, logic, biology, etc as your reasoning, its wrong or unnatural.

cretin.

[Labret] 04-14-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420


Labret, I think this is the exact WRONG thing to do. The fact is, the Bible is a racist, homophobic, sexist document. It IS all the things these groups say it is, and the milquetoasts who try to pretend otherwise are the ones who are in the wrong.

You have to fight them from a humanist base, why fight bible experts with bible quotes? I prefer to use the old 'there are more Muslims than Christians' line, etc and so on, point out absurdities in the Bible and try to discredit it as a base for their reasoning.

I'm definitely going to watch the show though. Darren you're doing GREAT!!

If you use the same book they use, to prove that the book is indeed flawed, then they lose.

Every bible thumping zealot is of the opinion that the good book is flawless. Point out the flaws, or illustrate the flaws in argument, and make them run in circles like idiots.

Just like every person on this board who claims to be a good Jew or a good Christian, I will rape them with their own book. far more devastating than arguing with them any other way. Use their god against them, its infuriating.

dig420 04-14-2003 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


If you use the same book they use, to prove that the book is indeed flawed, then they lose.

Every bible thumping zealot is of the opinion that the good book is flawless. Point out the flaws, or illustrate the flaws in argument, and make them run in circles like idiots.

Just like every person on this board who claims to be a good Jew or a good Christian, I will rape them with their own book. far more devastating than arguing with them any other way. Use their god against them, its infuriating.

make sure you call in to the show :thumbsup

eroswebmaster 04-14-2003 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


If you use the same book they use, to prove that the book is indeed flawed, then they lose.

Every bible thumping zealot is of the opinion that the good book is flawless. Point out the flaws, or illustrate the flaws in argument, and make them run in circles like idiots.

Just like every person on this board who claims to be a good Jew or a good Christian, I will rape them with their own book. far more devastating than arguing with them any other way. Use their god against them, its infuriating.

Yeah it's the only way to fight against the hardliners.

Case in point...back in the highschool my father used to call people on the left liberal assholes...sometimes he directed that towards me just because I wasn't a right wing republican.

Anyway one day I finally just told him Jesus Christ was a liberal asshole. This shocked my father...and does most "Christians" I point this out to.

Jesus didn't hang out with the pharisees and sadducees pretending to be religious...he hung out with the freaks, the whores, the thieves those who needed him.

If Jesus were to show up today on the scene the Christian right would be the first to crucify him.

JeremySF 04-14-2003 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


http://www.christianseparatist.org/o...hitejesus.html

The reference to Josephus is a nice touch. Using a famous Jewish historian to hammer home your point. class.


I wonder how these white sepratists reconcile the fact that Jesus was born, and lived and died as a Jew.

ElvisManson 04-14-2003 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarrenAustin
This Group is on the show today , and this is not the first hard hitting show that I have ever done, in fact this is not the first hard hitting thing in my life, being gay , like me, you seem to get those.
I however can handle this, they are crazy !

I personally love this part where Darren calls Labret gay......lol

I'm sure your show will be great darren.:)

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 02:59 PM

Dig 420

thank you so much, and I think that you made a valid point.


Rooster , I am not trying to justify Homo anything ,
I have been just being me since the day I was born and I think that if you like it, kewl , if not then ...kewl.

The point of this show , is to expose them , bring it out in the open. I like to do things on the show, that you really don't hear that often or you see them on TV and you wish you could be there to tell what you really think. I do several shows both webmasters and non- related issues, this episode is a chance to get you thinking and take a break from the computer.
It's all good

Kimmy Kim, thank you Doll!!

[Labret] 04-14-2003 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeremySF



I wonder how these white sepratists reconcile the fact that Jesus was born, and lived and died as a Jew.

You just dont get it do you. They have no problem with that. Thats not the issue. The Jew of today, the fake jew, is the problem.

White people are the true "Jew", the true children of God.

Go read up.

eroswebmaster 04-14-2003 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarrenAustin
Dig 420
kewl , if not then ...kewl.

Dude I could care less if you're gay, bi, or a midget lesbian who likes being fucked by bulls...but I will tell you this...I am diametrically opposed to those who use words like "kewl.":winkwink:

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 03:03 PM

kewl

JeremySF 04-14-2003 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


You just dont get it do you. They have no problem with that. Thats not the issue. The Jew of today, the fake jew, is the problem.

White people are the true "Jew", the true children of God.

Go read up.


Thanks buddy. I appreciate you clearing that up for me. Now it all makes sense. So actually white separatists are in fact Jews. They're not Christians. They are true Jews and all others are fake Jews. Cool man!


Interesting that Jesus didn't share this view, and in fact Paul (who is widely credited with truly spreading Christianity) was himself Jewish until he actually decided to separate. He was Saul as a Jew, became Paul when he separated. The very notion of Christianity and the central tenets of Christianity didn't come into being until many years after Jesus died.

lrodTOPBUCKS 04-14-2003 03:10 PM

blah, blah, blah..

JeremySF 04-14-2003 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson


I personally love this part where Darren calls Labret gay......lol

I'm sure your show will be great darren.:)

I always thought Labret seemed a little "swishy". :1orglaugh

Nonetheless, Labret, I respect your courage coming out on GFY.

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 03:13 PM

I am so sorry to Labret ,

I never meant to say anything that would suggest thaqt I thought you were gay , quite sorry if it came across that way .

[Labret] 04-14-2003 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeremySF



Thanks buddy. I appreciate you clearing that up for me. Now it all makes sense. So actually white separatists are in fact Jews. They're not Christians. They are true Jews and all others are fake Jews. Cool man!


Interesting that Jesus didn't share this view, and in fact Paul (who is widely credited with truly spreading Christianity) was himself Jewish until he actually decided to separate. He was Saul as a Jew, became Paul when he separated. The very notion of Christianity and the central tenets of Christianity didn't come into being until many years after Jesus died.

Its not that much of a stretch of the imagination.

Most hard liner Christians feels its their duty to try and evanangelize Jews as they dont accept Jesus as the true lord and savior, the fulfillment of OT prophecy. The Jews of today are the ones that spit in the face of Jesus and turned their faces from God.

These are the guys that confuse me.

http://www.jewsforjesus.com/

[Labret] 04-14-2003 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarrenAustin
I am so sorry to Labret ,

I never meant to say anything that would suggest thaqt I thought you were gay , quite sorry if it came across that way .

Its ok. Ive been called worse. I didnt notice until someone pointed it out.

People often mistake my sensitivity as a sign of being gay. That and I am a sharp dresser and I dance really well.

JeremySF 04-14-2003 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Its not that much of a stretch of the imagination.

Most hard liner Christians feels its their duty to try and evanangelize Jews as they dont accept Jesus as the true lord and savior, the fulfillment of OT prophecy. The Jews of today are the ones that spit in the face of Jesus and turned their faces from God.

These are the guys that confuse me.

http://www.jewsforjesus.com/


I've been approached by those Jews for Jesus folk. Scary people. They smell like Jews. Taste like Jews, but nope, they're just a little mixed up. They're really just Baptists.

steffie 04-14-2003 04:05 PM

God is a woman

Jesus was a Rebel!

Didn't you see Dogma?

:2 cents:

DarrenAustin 04-14-2003 04:06 PM

Steffie, that was funny haha

TheJimmy 04-14-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeremySF



I've been approached by those Jews for Jesus folk. Scary people. They smell like Jews. Taste like Jews, but nope, they're just a little mixed up. They're really just Baptists.


lol, amen to that!

:thumbsup

Kimmykim 04-14-2003 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]

People often mistake my sensitivity as a sign of being gay. That and I am a sharp dresser and I dance really well.


Sensitivity to latex?

UnseenWorld 04-14-2003 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
jesus rebeled against the jewish temple system. thats why he was killed.

Jews also dont consider jesus the messiah.

Rebelling against the Catholics or Methodists doesn't make you a non-Christian, though, does it?

bhutocracy 04-14-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Its not that much of a stretch of the imagination.

Most hard liner Christians feels its their duty to try and evanangelize Jews as they dont accept Jesus as the true lord and savior, the fulfillment of OT prophecy. The Jews of today are the ones that spit in the face of Jesus and turned their faces from God.

These are the guys that confuse me.

http://www.jewsforjesus.com/

Jews for Jesus is to christianity what Citizens for an Alternate Tax System is to scientology..


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