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Bladewire 02-26-2017 12:43 PM

?I want an investigation?: Father of slain SEAL blames Trump?s carelessness & ego
 
Does the father deserve an investigation into his sons death? I think he deserbmved that. What do you think?

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The father of a Navy SEAL killed during a mission that Donald Trump approved just a week into his administration blames the president for his son?s death.

William Owens told The Miami Herald that he refused to meet with Trump when the remains of son, William ?Ryan? Owens, were returned to Dover Air Force Base.

Owens questioned Trump?s motivation for signing off on a mission just six days into his presidency.

?Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn?t even barely a week into his administration? Why?? he asked. ?For two years prior, there were no boots on the ground in Yemen ? everything was missiles and drones ? because there was not a target worth one American life. Now, all of a sudden we had to make this grand display??

Although U.S. military officials told The New York Times that ?everything went wrong? during the mission, the Trump administration has called the operation a success. Administration officials have claimed that an investigation would tarnish the memory Owen?s son, but the father disagrees.

?Don?t hide behind my son?s death to prevent an investigation,? he remarked. ?I want an investigation. ? The government owes my son an investigation.?

?I want an investigation?: Father of slain SEAL blames Trump?s carelessness and ego for son?s death

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-26-2017 12:45 PM

Nope...

When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it

bronco67 02-26-2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21577336)
Nope...

When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it


Military members in harm's way should be respected more than have a mission go ahead decided over a steak dinner with non-military personnel present.

Have you served your country in the military, Mr Big Swinging Dick? I have.

Joshua G 02-26-2017 01:02 PM

nice to see "democrats" making conclusions on a mission that was done in secret, as if you "democrats" know what information was being passed to trump...and that he made the decision over a steak dinner?

you guys just make shit up on the fly, don't you.

"democrats"

:1orglaugh

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-26-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21577363)
Military members in harm's way should be respected more than have a mission go ahead decided over a steak dinner with non-military personnel present.

Have you served your country in the military, Mr Big Swinging Dick? I have.

I serve my country each and every day

I can tell you what, if I was overseas, I would NEVER come back in a body bag and if I did...there'd be a whole town taken out

With that said, when you train to be a Navy Seal, you know that with each and every mission you may not come back alive.

bronco67 02-26-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21577405)
I serve my country each and every day


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Oh really? How do you do that?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-26-2017 01:11 PM

Also, it's not "service" if you get paid

pimpmaster9000 02-26-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21577405)
I serve my country each and every day

I can tell you what, if I was overseas, I would NEVER come back in a body bag and if I did...there'd be a whole town taken out

With that said, when you train to be a Navy Seal, you know that with each and every mission you may not come back alive.

Lolocopter...

beerptrol 02-26-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21577414)
Oh really? How do you do that?

He blows Trump

crockett 02-26-2017 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21577414)
Oh really? How do you do that?

He believes trolling on the internet is serving his country. I guess if he's a paid Putin bot then he might be right!

Bladewire 02-26-2017 02:17 PM


I think when the Whitehouse lies regarding the circumstances of a Navy Seals death, the family of the fallen, and the public, deserve an investigation to find out the whole truth.

Rochard 02-26-2017 08:12 PM

There is no need for an investigation at all. We know exactly how and when he died; He died while serving his country. I am sure there is an after action report that gives the exact details. There is no reason to believe anything was done wrong here and it's pretty straight forward - They sent our military in to accomplish a task, and sometimes when our military goes to war we suffer casualties.

You could try to argue Trump was unqualified for unprepared and made a bad call, and while I believe both are true... At the end of the day for better or worse when our military gets the order they do their job, and sometimes people die.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-26-2017 08:16 PM

Plus it was probably a top secret mission

It's like signing up for the swim team and complaining that your shorts got wet

Paul Markham 02-27-2017 03:16 AM

would it warrant an investigation if Hillary had won?

pimpmaster9000 02-27-2017 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21578236)
He died while serving his country. .

bullshit alert...the USA is in no danger whatsoever, your army is there for the sole purpose of attacking countries that disagree with your crony government..."serving his country" = could not get a normal job so he turned USIS mercenary...

0 <----- number of people who would "serve their country" if it was not paid $$$ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-27-2017 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21578857)
would it warrant an investigation if Hillary had won?

No.......

Barry-xlovecam 02-27-2017 06:44 AM

The is no investigation needed. That operation was an abortion from day 1.
Poorly conceived for public relations by the Trump White House.

Nothing was gained :2 cents:

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-27-2017 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21579118)
The is no investigation needed. That operation was an abortion from day 1.
Poorly conceived for public relations by the Trump White House.

Nothing was gained :2 cents:

You haven't a clue about the operation :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Horatio Caine 02-27-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21577336)
Nope...

When you join the Navy Seals you know the risk that come with it

When you join embassy staff in Benghazi and live in a fucking compound you also know the risks. But, that doesn't stopped right wings nuts from launching 47 investigations into it. :1orglaugh

directfiesta 02-27-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21577405)
I serve my country each and every day

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Robbie 02-27-2017 08:47 AM

As much money as the Federal Govt. wastes...I don't see why they can't humor an old man who lost his son.

Bring him in, sit down and talk to him and show him what happened, how it happened, and why it happened.

The man should be proud of his son and not caught up in this media circus with no closure.

directfiesta 02-27-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 21579391)
When you join embassy staff in Benghazi and live in a fucking compound you also know the risks. But, that doesn't stopped right wings nuts from launching 47 investigations into it. :1orglaugh

... aside from being a CIA outpost and running weapons to "so-called" rebels .....

That was scrutinized and multi-investigated, while all previous attacks on embassies,conulates and missions were not ...

There is a need for YEMENGAZI !

Robbie 02-27-2017 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21579418)
... aside from being a CIA outpost and running weapons to "so-called" rebels .....

That was scrutinized and multi-investigated, while all previous attacks on embassies,conulates and missions were not ...

There is a need for YEMENGAZI !

I agree.

EVERYTHING our govt. is doing in these "wars", that have never been legally declared by Congress, should be investigated.

The only thing I worry about is that Congress is such a sorry ass collection of public leeches living off the taxpayer teat...that they don't have the ability to multi-task.

I want to see real change happening in Washington. I want them to be able to investigate everything they can...that's part of their job is oversight.
And at the same time I want them to get their ass moving on a replacement for ObamaCare that will work.
And on tax reform (finally)
And immigration reform that makes it easier for qualified people to gain citizenship instead of taking decades to do it.

I don't have much faith in Congress though. :(

crockett 02-27-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21579415)
As much money as the Federal Govt. wastes...I don't see why they can't humor an old man who lost his son.

Bring him in, sit down and talk to him and show him what happened, how it happened, and why it happened.

The man should be proud of his son and not caught up in this media circus with no closure.

You mean like you weren't caught up in the circus about Benghazi? I remember arguing with you about Benghazi and how you absolutely knew 100% there was a stand down order and Hillary was guilty. I remember how you would never admit you were wrong about that and still tried to argue it again in another topic after you were proven wrong.

Very odd, how you don't seem to think Trump has done anything wrong but everything Hillary or Obama did was wrong.

Matt 26z 02-27-2017 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21577363)
Military members in harm's way should be respected more than have a mission go ahead decided over a steak dinner with non-military personnel present.

The go-ahead was given by Obama. They were waiting for a moonless night. That didn't happen until Trump was in.

The real story here is that the targets appeared to know the US was coming for them (and that's not my speculation. those involved have said as much to the media). Someone from within the government may have leaked the plans to the bad guys. I would guess it was an Obama loyalist working (possibly with a group) to undermine Trump's presidency.

Bladewire 02-27-2017 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21579517)
The go-ahead was given by Obama. They were waiting for a moonless night. That didn't happen until Trump was in.

Why are you lying?

US Navy SEAL killed, 3 injured in raid on Al Qaeda in Yemen | Fox News

"A U.S. official told Fox News planing for the operation began before Trump assumed office, but had not been given the green light."

Father of US Navy SEAL killed in Yemen raid demands probe, slams Trump | Fox News

"The White House says the raid was planned during the Obama administration, but the former president's aides have said he hadn't given the go-ahead because it would have been an escalation of U.S. involvement in the war-torn and destitute Arab country."

Rochard 02-27-2017 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21579448)
You mean like you weren't caught up in the circus about Benghazi? I remember arguing with you about Benghazi and how you absolutely knew 100% there was a stand down order and Hillary was guilty. I remember how you would never admit you were wrong about that and still tried to argue it again in another topic after you were proven wrong.

Very odd, how you don't seem to think Drumpf has done anything wrong but everything Hillary or Obama did was wrong.

Benghazi. What fucking bullshit that was. Let's investigate that again. Absolutely nothing was done wrong by anyone yet we had to investigate it nine times? Nothing but a political witch hunt.

crockett 02-27-2017 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21579517)
The go-ahead was given by Obama. They were waiting for a moonless night. That didn't happen until Trump was in.

The real story here is that the targets appeared to know the US was coming for them (and that's not my speculation. those involved have said as much to the media). Someone from within the government may have leaked the plans to the bad guys. I would guess it was an Obama loyalist working (possibly with a group) to undermine Trump's presidency.

No it wasn't. Yes they wanted a moonlight night, but it was also on hold by Obama due to wanting more intel. There was not a go ahead from Obama on the next moon lit night it was on hold due to lack of intel.

Obama may or may not have run the operation on the next moon lit night, but it's certainly wasn't given the prior go ahead.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-27-2017 12:13 PM

More lies

FAKE NEWS

It was Obumma's mission

Fucking people can't report the truth if your life depended on it

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-27-2017 12:20 PM

Your son got killed by a haji...but we need to let more of them into this country...because racism!


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