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wehateporn 02-24-2017 03:30 AM

Fasting diet could prove the cure for type 2 diabetes
 

The pancreas can be triggered to regenerate itself through a type of fasting diet, say US researchers.

Restoring the function of the organ - which helps control blood sugar levels - reversed symptoms of diabetes in animal experiments.

The study, published in the journal Cell, says the diet reboots the body.

Experts said the findings were "potentially very exciting" as they could become a new treatment for the disease.

The experiments were on mice put on a modified form of the "fasting-mimicking diet".

When people go on it they spend five days on a low calorie, low protein, low carbohydrate but high unsaturated-fat diet.

It resembles a vegan diet with nuts and soups, but with around 800 to 1,100 calories a day.

Then they have 25 days eating what they want - so overall it mimics periods of feast and famine.

Previous research has suggested it can slow the pace of ageing.
Diabetes therapy?

But animal experiments showed the diet regenerated a special type of cell in the pancreas called a beta cell.

These are the cells that detect sugar in the blood and release the hormone insulin if it gets too high.

Dr Valter Longo, from the University of Southern California, said: "Our conclusion is that by pushing the mice into an extreme state and then bringing them back - by starving them and then feeding them again - the cells in the pancreas are triggered to use some kind of developmental reprogramming that rebuilds the part of the organ that's no longer functioning."

There were benefits in both type 1 and type 2 diabetes in the mouse experiments.

Type 1 is caused by the immune system destroying beta cells and type 2 is largely caused by lifestyle and the body no longer responding to insulin.

Further tests on tissue samples from people with type 1 diabetes produced similar effects.

Dr Longo said: "Medically, these findings have the potential to be very important because we've shown - at least in mouse models - that you can use diet to reverse the symptoms of diabetes.

"Scientifically, the findings are perhaps even more important because we've shown that you can use diet to reprogram cells without having to make any genetic alterations."

Separate trials of the diet in people have been shown to improve blood sugar levels. The latest findings help to explain why.

Continued Fasting diet 'regenerates diabetic pancreas' - BBC News

GFED 02-24-2017 04:14 AM

My blood sugar went from 250 to about 125 since I quit eating carbs.

TheSquealer 02-24-2017 06:24 AM

thats funny... obviously if the morbidly obese person stops eating, their type 2 diabetes will go away as you stop taxing the pancreas. this is well established and common knowledge.

the problem is as its always been... to get that same person to stop eating junk food and garbage.... not so easy.

bns666 02-24-2017 06:49 AM

fasting is actually healthy.

Barry-xlovecam 02-24-2017 06:52 AM

Physical activity, low carb, low processed (if any) sugar.
Sedentary lifestyles and junk food cause cellular insulin insensitivity.
Take 3 teaspoons of CEYLON cinnamon a day that will lower your blood sugar up to 20%

Barry-xlovecam 02-24-2017 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 21571852)
fasting is actually healthy.

Fasting is bad for blood sugar if you break fast and eat high glucose content foods -- these include fructose and lactose (fruit and milk). You will get sugar spikes in your blood.

Best thing to do is eat non starch vegetables, broiled fish, and blueberries -- just like a bear would :upsidedow:helpme

AllAboutCams 02-24-2017 07:06 AM

This week the doctor gave me duromine 30mg to try and not feel hungry. Not sure if im going to take them yet.

brandonstills 02-24-2017 04:44 PM

Based on the research I've read, it's better to completely fast than do calorie restriction. There are benefits to autophagy that don't happen under simple calorie restriction. Autophagy is the breakdown of cells. Basically the body eating itself. The thing is, it prioritizes damaged cells and cellular "junk" first. This has a healing effect. Other studies have shown an increase in stem cells regeneration from fasting.

I've done various times. 5 days, 10 days, and 18 days. 0 calories. Just water. Works really well. Makes you feel younger and really on fire when you resume eating. Sounds really hard, but once you get past the first 2 days it is super easy. First fast is hard, but if you do it periodically, then fasting becomes really easy. Especially if you already follow a ketogenic diet (low carb, low/moderate protein).

Also, people who did complete fasting (0 calories) reported less hunger cravings than people who did 500-1500 calorie/day diets. It is suspected this is because the body adapts (ketoadaptation) and goes into fat burning mode for fuel. When you half ass it and just do calorie restriction your body doesn't really transition into fat burning (lipolysis). Having extended windows of low insulin is really the controlling factor.

Also, starving is a little bit of a misnomer. The body burns fat for fuel when you don't have exogenous calories (calories from food that you eat). When you go through ketoadaptation you are burning fat. There's no difference between eating fat from your mouth or taking it from your fat stores. Before ketoadaptation you ARE actually starving though. Food goes to glucose and amino acids. Glucose gets used for energy. Excess is stored in the liver. If there is still too much it is converted to fat. When glucose stores are depleted the body will attempt to burn fat. If you aren't trained to burn fat though there's nothing there. It might burn a tiny bit of protein in order to synthesize glucose (gluconeogenesis) but it can only do it so much. The time it takes to get into ketoadaptation varies depending on how healthy you are and seems to be correlated with insulin resistance. If you always eat carbs it will take some time to learn how to burn fat. The body adjusts though. When it does, fasting is super easy.

EddyTheDog 02-24-2017 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 21571885)
This week the doctor gave me duromine 30mg to try and not feel hungry. Not sure if im going to take them yet.

Seriously? - Damn - I took them many years ago - A lot of nurses took them to get through night shifts...

I could tell you some stories - lol - But I wont:winkwink:.....

AllAboutCams 02-24-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 21573580)
Seriously? - Damn - I took them many years ago - A lot of nurses took them to get through night shifts...

I could tell you some stories - lol - But I wont:winkwink:.....

Yeah that is why im a little hesitant to take them as the reviews are all over saying its like speed.

EddyTheDog 02-24-2017 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 21573682)
Yeah that is why im a little hesitant to take them as the reviews are all over saying its like speed.

It is - If you decide to try it then take it as soon as you open your eyes in the morning - Don't drink any alcohol/coffee/caffiene - I used it to stay awake for 72 hour shifts - Don't EVER do that - The come down is evil...

Jigster715 02-25-2017 02:16 AM

Starting 5 day fast on Monday. Doctor supervised. Looks like the body can be regenerative.

CaptainHowdy 02-25-2017 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 21571852)
fasting is actually healthy.

... and dirt cheap!

Barry-xlovecam 02-25-2017 08:06 AM

Diabetes Mellitus Reduces Activity of Human UDP-Glucuronosyltransferase 2B7 in Liver and Kidney Leading to Decreased Formation of Mycophenolic Acid Acyl-Glucuronide Metabolite

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3061563/

Affinity Data by PubMed id=21123165

I think this may have something to do with this whole problem.

Fasting is the equivalent of drawing blood with leaches -- a very medieval practice.

CurrentlySober 02-25-2017 09:06 AM

id lik a farting diet

money biz 02-25-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jigster715 (Post 21574378)
Starting 5 day fast on Monday. Doctor supervised. Looks like the body can be regenerative.


Once you make it to day 3 its gets easy. Longest I have done is 7 days

wehateporn 02-25-2017 11:42 AM

Great way to increase your lifespan

Jigster715 02-25-2017 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by money biz (Post 21575020)
Once you make it to day 3 its gets easy. Longest I have done is 7 days

I'm looking at 5 then resume at 50%- kcals.

Peter Romero 02-25-2017 12:21 PM

25 days of eating whatever you want? Fuck that shit.


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