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directfiesta 02-03-2017 05:51 PM

Trump getting bitch slapped .... on travel ban
 
Seattle judge blocks Trump immigration order

Quote:

A federal judge in Seattle on Friday granted a nationwide temporary restraining order blocking U.S. President Donald Trump's recent action barring nationals from seven countries from entering the United States.

The judge's order represents a major challenge to the Trump administration, which is expected to immediately appeal. The judge declined to stay the order, suggesting that travel restrictions could be lifted immediately.

The challenge was brought by the state of Washington and later joined by the state of Minnesota. The Seattle judge ruled that the states have legal standing to sue, which could help Democratic attorneys general take on Trump in court on issues beyond immigration.

"It's a wonderful day for the rule of law in this country," said Washington state solicitor general Noah Purcell.

The decision came on a day that attorneys from four states were in courts challenging Trump's executive order. Trump's administration justified the action on national security grounds, but opponents labeled it an unconstitutional order targeting people based on religious beliefs.

Earlier on Friday, a federal judge in Boston on Friday declined to extend a temporary restraining order that allowed some immigrants into the United States from certain countries despite being barred by U.S. President Donald Trump's recent executive order.

Also on Friday in Virginia, a federal judge ordered the White House to provide a list of all people stopped from entering the United States by the travel ban.

The State Department said on Friday that fewer than 60,000 visas previously issued to citizens of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen had been invalidated as a result of the order. That disclosure followed media reports that government lawyers were citing a figure of 100,000.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/seattle-j...000739102.html

bronco67 02-03-2017 05:55 PM

This should be ok with Republicans because they're all about state's rights.

They hate the federal government intervening in state matters.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-03-2017 06:05 PM

I LOVE THIS!

No word from the white house, customs says they will comply with the judge and let people in. If Trump doesn't comply, that's worthy of impeachment.

Trump is on vacation already, in Florida, until Monday FUCKING lazy FUCK! 2 weeks on the job already on vacation fucking pig.

Only problem is Trump cancelled almost 100,000 foreign visas, many already residents and our allies in war, no word yet if this overrides Trump and the visas are no longer cancelled.

TheDynasty 02-03-2017 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21514360)
I LOVE THIS!

No word from the white house, customs says they will comply with the judge and let people in. If Trump doesn't comply, that's worthy of impeachment.

Trump is on vacation already, in Florida, until Monday FUCKING lazy FUCK! 2 weeks on the job already on vacation fucking pig.

Only problem is Trump cancelled almost a thousand foreign visas, no word yet if this overrides Trump and the visas are no longer cancelled.

Right all that bullshit he talked about Obama vacationing :disgust

gnawledge 02-03-2017 06:11 PM

Looks like it was reversed. Another win for papa Trump.

GFED 02-03-2017 06:20 PM

When did hypocrite libbies start giving a fuck about anyone's religious beliefs?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-03-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnawledge (Post 21514369)
Looks like it was reversed.

Trumps ban reversed yes.

By a federal judge.

No appeal, No response from the Whitehouse yet, for hours.



beerptrol 02-03-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21514360)
I LOVE THIS!

No word from the white house, customs says they will comply with the judge and let people in. If Trump doesn't comply, that's worthy of impeachment.

Trump is on vacation already, in Florida, until Monday FUCKING lazy FUCK! 2 weeks on the job already on vacation fucking pig.

Only problem is Trump cancelled almost 100,000 foreign visas, many already residents and our allies in war, no word yet if this overrides Trump and the visas are no longer cancelled.

Surprised he has taken to twitter to bash the judge. In all fairness, it's a well deserved vacation. Signing all those EOs in front of the cameras and patting himself on the back is tiring work

Plus he has to make an appearance to justify the doubling of membership at Mar-a-Lago.

TCLGirls 02-03-2017 06:34 PM

boomshakalaka!

Bladewire 02-03-2017 06:38 PM

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2MuchMark 02-03-2017 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 21514327)
Seattle judge blocks Trump immigration order


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NatalieK 02-03-2017 06:46 PM

trump needs impeachment & bitchslapping :thumbsup

mineistaken 02-03-2017 07:05 PM

Lol at a huge celebration of some libby state (Washington and Seatle seems like one of the most libby scum infested zones) judge action.
He showed Trump! Lol

Bladewire 02-03-2017 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21514468)
Lol at a huge celebration of some libby state (Washington and Seatle seems like one of the most libby scum infested zones) judge action.
He showed Trump! Lol

Do they have liberal states in Slovakia, your country? Is there still a strong nazi presence in your country?

Why do you judge Americans so harshly? You hate a wholly state of millions of people. You are an inferior piece of shit they'll never let you in America :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mineistaken 02-03-2017 07:08 PM

And I love how libsters use double standard everywhere they go.

Example:

Trump's administration justified the action on national security grounds, but opponents labeled it an unconstitutional order targeting people based on religious beliefs.

There are 2 claims:
national security grounds
religion grounds

Hell, lets bold the one I like more :1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-03-2017 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21514474)
And I love how libsters use double standard everywhere they go.

Example:

Trump's administration justified the action on national security grounds, but opponents labeled it an unconstitutional order targeting people based on religious beliefs.

There are 2 claims:
national security grounds
religion grounds

Hell, lets bold the one I like more :1orglaugh

How old are you foreigner Slovakian?

How many times have you been denied entry to America? At least 5.

Chodieva? sem často? Choď preč démon :disgust

TCLGirls 02-03-2017 07:35 PM

Per Customs & Border Protection: All travel visas are being reinstated!!

Bladewire 02-03-2017 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21514549)
Per Customs & Border Protection: All travel visas are being reinstated!!

I see that YES!

2 years to get visas after 2 years American vetting good to see another rational decision by another federal judge :thumbsup


mineistaken 02-03-2017 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 21514549)
Per Customs & Border Protection: All travel visas are being reinstated!!

Great success, lets celebrate faster conquering of US. :thumbsup

Bladewire 02-03-2017 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21514567)
Great success, lets celebrate faster conquering of US. :thumbsup

Your Slovakia conquered so long ago, and so many times since :1orglaugh

Rochard 02-03-2017 08:38 PM

Trump is on vacation and now the terrorists are flowing across our border.

Brace yourselves.

Barry-xlovecam 02-03-2017 09:23 PM

According to this article ...

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/03/...cutive-orders/

Trump Muslim Ban Executive Order Violated Executive Order About Executive Orders

They are saying 'team trump' did not follow procedure and do the paperwork right. They are claiming the the Travel Ban EO is a defective EO ... They fucked up the details ...

https://s29.postimg.org/xhmvhv1if/king_troll_trump.png

xKingx 02-03-2017 10:20 PM

As an atheist, I sure am glad it was reversed. So more religious nut jobs can move in to my country.

/sarcasm off :(:(

Barry-xlovecam 02-03-2017 10:33 PM

A federal judge in Seattle issued a temporary nationwide restraining order Friday stopping President Trump's executive order banning citizens of seven countries from entering the United States.

Judge James Robart, who was appointed by former President George Bush in 2003, ruled the executive order would be stopped nationwide, effective immediately.

Robbie 02-03-2017 11:12 PM

What is the end game of all of this. Why are so many people happy for letting refugees into the country?

I saw on the news the guy who is in charge of a foundation that "helps" the refugees. They pick them up from the airport. Pay the rent on a furnished apartment with utilities and cable for 3 months in advance. Stock the refrigerator with food, AND...they get the refugees a job.
They also get govt. money to do all of that.

Sounds nice.

And then I ride down the street here in Las Vegas and on every corner there is a homeless person holding a sign begging for food. Most of them are U.S. military vets.

Why the fuck isn't the govt. helping THEM?

It's incredible to me. And all of these bleeding heart people screaming for refugees to enter our country...and the refugees don't speak our language. They don't share our beliefs on anything. They come from a culture and a religion that treats women like dogs, and hate gay people

WTF?

This is NOT like 1881 when a flood of Irish people legally immigrated.
They were able to pretty easily assimilate (once they got past the racial hatred).

For these refugees...coming to America is like landing on Mars.

Didn't any of us learn anything from what is happening in France and Germany?
I guess not.

Did none of you read the reports about Muslim immigrants raping German women? I know that CNN and MSNBC didn't cover those stories, because it didn't fit with their agenda. But it did happen.

And what about the horrible terrorist attacks in France?

I want to help people...but goddamnit, we have our own homeless and hungry men, women, and children right here in the United States.
And nobody is flying them to new homes and giving them food, a nice apartment, and a job. :(

As for banning 7 countries out of all the Muslim countries in the world (the 7 that Pres. Obama's administration labeled for terrorism)...why would any of you want to possibly let someone in the country who is going to do something horrible? Why not nip it in the bud?

Hell, during the height of the Cold War...it wasn't exactly easy to travel to Russia and back either.
And until last year...going to Cuba wasn't possible from the U.S.

But now? All of a sudden...it's "unconstitutional"? I thought the U.S. Constitution was for U.S. citizens.

TCLGirls 02-03-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21514849)
But now? All of a sudden...it's "unconstitutional"? I thought the U.S. Constitution was for U.S. citizens.

You don't think Permanent Residents (green-card holders) have any Constitutional rights?

Paul Markham 02-04-2017 12:29 AM

Better to be PC then protect the people.

Barry-xlovecam 02-04-2017 01:26 AM

Take a chill pill -- this is about illegal executive orders -- or not -- to be decided in court.
Trump was not elected dictator or emperor regardless what he may think -- we are a nation of laws.

Most homeless people are either drug addicts, drunks or head cases of some sort -- it has been this way as long as I can remember. Why don't you invite a homeless person to live in your basement? I am being facetious but you get my point. Why don't you hire a homeless man to cut your lawn or paint your house. This is Reganomics -- let the charities care for people not the government. VERY LIBERTARIAN!

If veterans come back from war and are fucked up mentally from wartime service they should be helped by the government -- I have no problem with that. However, someone that served during peacetime and got a paycheck and the normal veteran benefits; got his pay to do a job -- he deserves what we all are entitled to in addition and nothing more.

Horrible terrorist attacks in France: We had our corporate meeting in 2015 at the Hyatt Mediterranee 2 months before that attack in front of that VERY EXACT hotel in Nice, France. You don't think that freaked the hell out of me? I also vacationed in Paris for 2 weeks a month before that attack at the rock concert theater. So, don't try to tell me what I don't know ...

Matt 26z 02-04-2017 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21514360)
Trump is on vacation already, in Florida, until Monday FUCKING lazy FUCK! 2 weeks on the job already on vacation fucking pig.

Bladewire = FAKE NEWS!

Spice Daddy told the press on Friday that Marlago is the "Winter White House."

you need to read up on your facts:

Trump heads to 'Winter White House' this weekend

"The President will depart from this White House to the winter White House down at Mar-a-Lago where he'll spend the weekend and be holding meetings," said White House spokesman Sean Spicer.

Paul Markham 02-04-2017 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21514993)
Take a chill pill -- this is about illegal executive orders -- or not -- to be decided in court.
Trump was not elected dictator or emperor regardless what he may think -- we are a nation of laws.

Most homeless people are either drug addicts, drunks or head cases of some sort -- it has been this way as long as I can remember. Why don't you invite a homeless person to live in your basement? I am being facetious but you get my point. Why don't you hire a homeless man to cut your lawn or paint your house. This is Reganomics -- let the charities care for people not the government. VERY LIBERTARIAN!

If veterans come back from war and are fucked up mentally from wartime service they should be helped by the government -- I have no problem with that. However, someone that served during peacetime and got a paycheck and the normal veteran benefits; got his pay to do a job -- he deserves what we all are entitled to in addition and nothing more.

Horrible terrorist attacks in France: We had our corporate meeting in 2015 at the Hyatt Mediterranee 2 months before that attack in front of that VERY EXACT hotel in Nice, France. You don't think that freaked the hell out of me? I also vacationed in Paris for 2 weeks a month before that attack at the rock concert theater. So, don't try to tell me what I don't know ...

I agree with you on executive order part. The problem is many are pleased Trump was blocked from tackling the issue. Not sad that he was stopped.

Most homeless people are drug addicts, drunks or head cases of some sort. The problem starts before the drugs or drinking. The causes that lead people to those are more often poverty than any other cause. Mentally unstable people should be cared for by the State, you the taxpayer, and that's not so good in the US under previous governments who have done their best to keep healthcare in the hands of billionaires.

Obama was blocked at every turn by the people Americans elect.

France has more problems with terrorists BECAUSE IT HAS MORE MUSLIMS. So why is reducing the number of Muslims a wrong move and so many pleased Trump was stopped?

I have to be honest, I know nothing first hand about Islamic Terrorism. Muslims are very rare here. I would know more if I lived in France.

JFK 02-04-2017 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21514675)
Trump is on vacation and now the terrorists are flowing across our border.

Brace yourselves.

:1orglaugh:helpme

Barry-xlovecam 02-04-2017 02:39 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...m_pop ulation

Quote:

According to the Pew Forum, the total number of Muslims in Europe in 2010 was about 44 million (6%).[6] The total number of Muslims in the European Union in 2010 was about 19 million (3.8%).[6] The French capital of Paris and its metropolitan area has the largest number (up to 1.7 million according to The Economist)[7] of Muslims out of any city in the European Union. London also has a substantial community of Muslim origin, numbering about 1 million within the limits of Greater London and exceeding this figure when the entire metropolitan area is taken into account.
And the US Americans scream about the Latinos and Blacks ...

People need to find a way to live in peace with each other. The planet is really overpopulated. Massive plague or war is inevitable eventually :2 cents:

Mankind needs to work together to colonize space not try to kill each other off to a stalemate.

seeandsee 02-04-2017 04:53 AM

Trump will solve this in a day!

xKingx 02-04-2017 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21514849)
What is the end game of all of this. Why are so many people happy for letting refugees into the country?

I saw on the news the guy who is in charge of a foundation that "helps" the refugees. They pick them up from the airport. Pay the rent on a furnished apartment with utilities and cable for 3 months in advance. Stock the refrigerator with food, AND...they get the refugees a job.
They also get govt. money to do all of that.

Sounds nice.

And then I ride down the street here in Las Vegas and on every corner there is a homeless person holding a sign begging for food. Most of them are U.S. military vets.

Why the fuck isn't the govt. helping THEM?

It's incredible to me. And all of these bleeding heart people screaming for refugees to enter our country...and the refugees don't speak our language. They don't share our beliefs on anything. They come from a culture and a religion that treats women like dogs, and hate gay people

WTF?

This is NOT like 1881 when a flood of Irish people legally immigrated.
They were able to pretty easily assimilate (once they got past the racial hatred).

For these refugees...coming to America is like landing on Mars.

Didn't any of us learn anything from what is happening in France and Germany?
I guess not.

Did none of you read the reports about Muslim immigrants raping German women? I know that CNN and MSNBC didn't cover those stories, because it didn't fit with their agenda. But it did happen.

And what about the horrible terrorist attacks in France?

I want to help people...but goddamnit, we have our own homeless and hungry men, women, and children right here in the United States.
And nobody is flying them to new homes and giving them food, a nice apartment, and a job. :(

As for banning 7 countries out of all the Muslim countries in the world (the 7 that Pres. Obama's administration labeled for terrorism)...why would any of you want to possibly let someone in the country who is going to do something horrible? Why not nip it in the bud?

Hell, during the height of the Cold War...it wasn't exactly easy to travel to Russia and back either.
And until last year...going to Cuba wasn't possible from the U.S.

But now? All of a sudden...it's "unconstitutional"? I thought the U.S. Constitution was for U.S. citizens.

Damn right :thumbsup:thumbsup

Bladewire 02-04-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21515005)
Bladewire = FAKE NEWS!

Spice Daddy told the press on Friday that Marlago is the "Winter White House."

you need to read up on your facts:

Trump heads to 'Winter White House' this weekend

"The President will depart from this White House to the winter White House down at Mar-a-Lago where he'll spend the weekend and be holding meetings," said White House spokesman Sean Spicer.

Clearly you don't know that the wealthy code words "holding meetings" means golfing.

Trump could only handle 2 weeks and had to bolt he's such a snowflake melting down on Twitter like a baby that had his toys taken away :1orglaugh

Bladewire 02-04-2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21514930)
Better to be PC then protect the people.

I'll remind you again Paul, to get a refugee visa in AMERICA you are vetted for 2 YEARS! Tens of thousand are weeded out through our vetting and Europe let's our rejects in with no vetting.

Europe = no vetting

America = 2 YEARS VETTING

America = no attacks ever from the 7 countries Trump banned.

Please stop speaking from ignorance you make yourself look stupid.


beerptrol 02-04-2017 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21515497)
Clearly you don't know that the wealthy code words "holding meetings" means golfing.

Trump could only handle 2 weeks and had to bolt he's such a snowflake melting down on Twitter like a baby that had his toys taken away :1orglaugh

He has to hold meetings for those who are paying double the membership fee and putting money in his pockets to be members of the winter white house. They expect access to him for that amount. I mean it's like they raised the price because they hired american workers and increased their wages. The trump brand is shit. Being a member of the club he owns puts money in his pocket and gets you access to him

Barry-xlovecam 02-04-2017 11:57 AM

He (Trump) had a tough week.
Next week will be worse ...

https://s29.postimg.org/xhmvhv1if/king_troll_trump.png

How did being 'king for a day' work out :2 cents:

Rochard 02-04-2017 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21514849)
What is the end game of all of this. Why are so many people happy for letting refugees into the country?

I saw on the news the guy who is in charge of a foundation that "helps" the refugees. They pick them up from the airport. Pay the rent on a furnished apartment with utilities and cable for 3 months in advance. Stock the refrigerator with food, AND...they get the refugees a job.
They also get govt. money to do all of that.

Sounds nice.

And then I ride down the street here in Las Vegas and on every corner there is a homeless person holding a sign begging for food. Most of them are U.S. military vets.

Why the fuck isn't the govt. helping THEM?

It's incredible to me. And all of these bleeding heart people screaming for refugees to enter our country...and the refugees don't speak our language. They don't share our beliefs on anything. They come from a culture and a religion that treats women like dogs, and hate gay people

WTF?

This is NOT like 1881 when a flood of Irish people legally immigrated.
They were able to pretty easily assimilate (once they got past the racial hatred).

For these refugees...coming to America is like landing on Mars.

Didn't any of us learn anything from what is happening in France and Germany?
I guess not.

Did none of you read the reports about Muslim immigrants raping German women? I know that CNN and MSNBC didn't cover those stories, because it didn't fit with their agenda. But it did happen.

And what about the horrible terrorist attacks in France?

I want to help people...but goddamnit, we have our own homeless and hungry men, women, and children right here in the United States.
And nobody is flying them to new homes and giving them food, a nice apartment, and a job. :(

As for banning 7 countries out of all the Muslim countries in the world (the 7 that Pres. Obama's administration labeled for terrorism)...why would any of you want to possibly let someone in the country who is going to do something horrible? Why not nip it in the bud?

Hell, during the height of the Cold War...it wasn't exactly easy to travel to Russia and back either.
And until last year...going to Cuba wasn't possible from the U.S.

But now? All of a sudden...it's "unconstitutional"? I thought the U.S. Constitution was for U.S. citizens.

It's the way it was done and why it was done.

The ONLY reason this was done was to make it look like the brand new Trump administration was doing something. This action isn't protecting us; Terrorists aren't coming from the countries on Trump's ban list. At the same time, we are allowing in people from countries with known terrorist connections such as Saudi Arabia.

The amount of damage this is doing is staggering. American businesses have employees stranded outside of the country, students attending University in the US cannot return, Americans have been separated from their spouses, and in some cases Americans are being turned away from returning home.

Of course this doesn't mention the people who spent years trying to come to the United States, no less the damage we've done to our reputation - Terrorists are using this "Muslim ban" as a recruiting tool.

The way this was done was horrible. The Trump administration didn't consult anyone about this. No one called the State Department, the US military, or anyone in Congress. This was done by a handful of people in the White House who seem to think they can do whatever they fucking please. This is not the case, being as a US judge just put a stop to it.

The correct way to have done this would have been to get together with the State Department and come up with a plan that didn't strand people at foreign airports. We have a long vetting process which is why we have so few terrorist attacks in the US. If they decided to move forward with this, they should have stopped issuing new visas not just lock them out.

This is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

It's just like the wall. We have this image that we have illegal aliens climbing over walls. The truth is that illegal immigration is slowing down, and Obama deported more illegals than any other president. Instead of making us look like assholes and spending money we do not have, the correct thing to do is continue what we have been doing for the past eight years.

Bladewire 02-04-2017 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 21515521)
He has to hold meetings for those who are paying double the membership fee and putting money in his pockets to be members of the winter white house. They expect access to him for that amount. I mean it's like they raised the price because they hired american workers and increased their wages. The trump brand is shit. Being a member of the club he owns puts money in his pocket and gets you access to him

True!

Trump, Pence enter golf clubhouse during "weekend of meetings" | Reuters.com

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Robbie 02-04-2017 12:34 PM

Rochard, my point is...number one: nobody helps our homeless like they do the refugees.

If an agency rounded up the homeless people, gave them a paid for nice apartment with furniture and filled the refrigerator with groceries...THEN let's talk about refugees from another country who have almost zero chance of ever successfully assimilating into our society...and who have been raised to treat women like dogs and HATE and KILL gay people.

Is that really what we want?

I would think that for immigration we would want the best and brightest. Not hateful people who will treat women like non-humans and gays like slaughterhouse animals.

As for where terrorists come from...ISIS has already publicly stated that they would infiltrate the refugees. It's a no-brainer that they are going to do that.
Why on Earth should we gamble on that?

All of this "celebrating" is totally political with no regard to reality.
This is pure b.s. from people who just can't accept how WRONG they were about the election.

But this time, it has National Security ramifications.

Does a federal judge have the right to stop Trump's order?
Hell yes. Just like they stopped several of Pres. Obama's orders as well.

But for people here to celebrate and cheer on countries like Iran and Syria over our own well-being is just...dumb.

Bladewire 02-04-2017 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21515956)
Rochard, my point is...number one: nobody helps our homeless like they do the refugees.

If an agency rounded up the homeless people, gave them a paid for nice apartment with furniture and filled the refrigerator with groceries...THEN let's talk about refugees from another country who have almost zero chance of ever successfully assimilating into our society...and who have been raised to treat women like dogs and HATE and KILL gay people.

Is that really what we want?

I would think that for immigration we would want the best and brightest. Not hateful people who will treat women like non-humans and gays like slaughterhouse animals.

As for where terrorists come from...ISIS has already publicly stated that they would infiltrate the refugees. It's a no-brainer that they are going to do that.
Why on Earth should we gamble on that?

All of this "celebrating" is totally political with no regard to reality.
This is pure b.s. from people who just can't accept how WRONG they were about the election.

But this time, it has National Security ramifications.

Does a federal judge have the right to stop Trump's order?
Hell yes. Just like they stopped several of Pres. Obama's orders as well.

But for people here to celebrate and cheer on countries like Iran and Syria over our own well-being is just...dumb.

Wrong. You're all over the place wrong too man damn.

My old webmaster was a Syrian refugee living in San Diego. I met her a couple times, totally cool chick. She was telling me about the war going on there before it was even on TV here.

You act like all these refugees don't have skills or speak English and are just going to be on welfare. You act like these people didn't come here to live a normal productive life in peace. You act like they are all animals that treat others like animals.

You are wrong. We vet for 2 years to keep the losers, including terrorists, out. Do you understand?

Linkster 02-04-2017 12:46 PM

Robbie - have you ever stopped and offered to help any of the homeless people by giving them work?
I have...and what I found out is that with a few exceptions (and this was Northern Calif)..most of them do the street thing because it pays them better than getting a minimum wage job and they can hustle on the street for more.
There are towns in No. Calif that San Francisco literally pays the homeless to go to, and subsidizes them, and even gives them an extra $50 a week if they have a pet....so naturally most of them have dogs or goats(I'm being serious).
They have no aspiration of getting off the street..they have nice camps set up along rivers.
The few that did want work were not in that class, and I helped them the best I could

I don't expect that the Gov't should be paying for this....as a matter of fact by the time the bureaucracy is done with the money the taxpayers are paying 10 times what they should

baddog 02-04-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21514339)
This should be ok with Republicans because they're all about state's rights.

They hate the federal government intervening in state matters.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What the hell does states rights have to do with immigration?

Bladewire 02-04-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21515998)
What the hell does states rights have to do with immigration?

Federal vs. State Immigration Laws - FindLaw

Rochard 02-04-2017 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21515956)
Rochard, my point is...number one: nobody helps our homeless like they do the refugees.

If an agency rounded up the homeless people, gave them a paid for nice apartment with furniture and filled the refrigerator with groceries...THEN let's talk about refugees from another country who have almost zero chance of ever successfully assimilating into our society...and who have been raised to treat women like dogs and HATE and KILL gay people.

Is that really what we want?

I would think that for immigration we would want the best and brightest. Not hateful people who will treat women like non-humans and gays like slaughterhouse animals.

As for where terrorists come from...ISIS has already publicly stated that they would infiltrate the refugees. It's a no-brainer that they are going to do that.
Why on Earth should we gamble on that?

All of this "celebrating" is totally political with no regard to reality.
This is pure b.s. from people who just can't accept how WRONG they were about the election.

But this time, it has National Security ramifications.

Does a federal judge have the right to stop Drumpf's order?
Hell yes. Just like they stopped several of Pres. Obama's orders as well.

But for people here to celebrate and cheer on countries like Iran and Syria over our own well-being is just...dumb.

We don't help our homeless? Really?

We are giving the homeless free food, free clothes, and a free place to live. I live in a town of fifty thousand people and we have a charity here in town that has handed out three million meals in the past year. The town next to us has a complex of "tiny homes" for the homeless. Another town next to us has the Lazarous project, where they have three large homes for homeless people. Larger local cities are using something called MicroPADs. Other cities rent out entire apartments for the homeless.

You said refugees have "almost zero chance of ever successfully assimilating into our society". My grandmother was a refugee from Poland and didn't speak any English. My step-father came from Europe and spoke only French. And somewhere along the line, Robbie, you have family members that came to the US and chances are they didn't speak English either. You have to understand that if it was up to you... You wouldn't be an American citizen today.

Do I want someone from Syria coming into my country? Or Pakistan? I honestly don't care. Someone from Syria isn't going to come to the US and commit a terrorist act. I am more likely to be killed by a toaster in a bath tub than I am by a terrorist act on American soil.

I feel very strongly about what happened on 9/11, but this "ban" isn't going to prevent the next 9/11. The people who hijacked the planes were mostly from Saudi Arabia and Egypt, which isn't covered by the ban. This is nothing more than a new president trying to make it look like he is doing something to protect us. He signed a fucking piece of paper and then went on vacation to Florida. That's it.

beerptrol 02-04-2017 02:37 PM

Fucktard chump thinks this is one big photo op. He signs executive orders with out consulting experts because obviously his degree from Trump U makes him an expert.

He does nothing but cause chaos which others have to fix instead of actually doing something to benefit this country

He and his staff boldly lie to the people

After less than two weeks of fucking things up, he feels like he needs a vacation

Pete 02-04-2017 05:44 PM

It must just kill him that he doesn't have total control. He's a power monger! :1orglaugh

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-04-2017 05:50 PM

The next terror attack will be 100% on the left

bronco67 02-04-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 21515998)
What the hell does states rights have to do with immigration?

Are you paying attention to the whole point of this thread?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/04/u...uson.html?_r=0

I said Republicans should be in favor of the state intervening in a federal rule, and...ahh never mind.


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