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Paul Markham 01-20-2017 11:52 PM

Why weren't Trump campaign speeches like his inaugural speech?
 
If he had spoken more like that he would have won by a landslide. His failure was in not enlisting the coloured and Latino vote. The largest groups of poor who have suffered the most under previous administrations.

Speigelau 01-21-2017 12:39 AM

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Paul Markham 01-21-2017 01:37 AM

Will more politicians support the idea of bringing back jobs and wealth to the people?

loreen 01-21-2017 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21470986)
If he had spoken more like that

I found it just as populist and full of hate like the rest of them :error

Bladewire 01-21-2017 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by loreen (Post 21471181)
I found it just as populist and full of hate like the rest of them :error

Agreed 100%

TheHost 01-21-2017 06:22 AM

He targeted a specific kind of people when he was in campaign. Probably he was trying to secure the vote of this people and considered others not so important in accomplishing his goal.

Everyone knows you can't be successful if you target everybody, you have to filter, and whites are 72%(ish) of USA population, while blacks and latino combined make 28%(ish).

crockett 01-21-2017 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21471019)

Words vs Actions. See that's the problem with you right wingbots, you worry more about your word of the day than actually doing anything. Trump has yet to do anything for "the people" while Obama did a lot..

nico-t 01-21-2017 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by loreen (Post 21471181)
I found it just as populist and full of hate like the rest of them :error

tell me, does everything taste like soap after all that brainwashing?

loreen 01-21-2017 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21471466)
tell me, does everything taste like soap after all that brainwashing?

Please, share your experience first :)

2MuchMark 01-21-2017 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21471019)

That's because Obama is a much more interesting guy.

NatalieK 01-21-2017 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21471385)
Words vs Actions. See that's the problem with you right wingbots, you worry more about your word of the day than actually doing anything. Trump has yet to do anything for "the people" while Obama did a lot..

exactly...

he´s already destroying America with regards to Japan & China, the US´s largest creditors & promises to build these new roads and bridges, where´s he borrowing that money from. Because if he continues to pull out from the rest of the world anymore, the US will be poorer than ever before!

Is Trump right that America subsidises the world? - ITV News


Big thoughts :2 cents:

SilentKnight 01-21-2017 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21471385)
Words vs Actions. See that's the problem with you right wingbots, you worry more about your word of the day than actually doing anything. Trump has yet to do anything for "the people" while Obama did a lot..

He's barely been President for 24hrs.

What the fuck do you expect him to have done? :disgust

Joshua G 01-21-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 21471607)
He's barely been President for 24hrs.

What the fuck do you expect him to have done? :disgust

waste of energy to try to reason with the liberal dumb-bot. best just to fling shit back at him.

:1orglaugh

Joshua G 01-21-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21471565)
That's because Obama is a much more interesting guy.

a failed community organizer who destroyed his party, set the groundwork for trump, vs a billionaire with a jet that grabs models by the pussy, & laid waste to 2 corrupt political families. (bush/clinton)

you have a funny idea of whose more interesting.

:1orglaugh

Speigelau 01-21-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21471385)
Words vs Actions. See that's the problem with you right wingbots, you worry more about your word of the day than actually doing anything. Trump has yet to do anything for "the people" while Obama did a lot..

Lol at "Obama did a lot", he was the absolute king of all talk and no action. Obama failed to deliver on over 90% of his promises. I'm sure you'll find a way to blame the Republican congress, but the bottom line is, he never was able to back up much of anything he promised.

The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-21-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21470986)
If he had spoken more like that he would have won by a landslide. His failure was in not enlisting the coloured and Latino vote. The largest groups of poor who have suffered the most under previous administrations.

He did win by a landslide you fucking idiot!

Speigelau 01-21-2017 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21470986)
If he had spoken more like that he would have won by a landslide. His failure was in not enlisting the coloured and Latino vote. The largest groups of poor who have suffered the most under previous administrations.

Once Trump made immigration reform as part of his platform, there was never going to be any way for him to "enlist the latino vote". Wall or no wall, latinos are just too sensitive about immigration reform, even if it just means a more concerted effort to keep out the illegals.

ianmoone332000 01-21-2017 02:40 PM

I thought his speech was amazing. Wish we had someone in charge saying we will put Britain first in every decision we make. Fucking brilliant

mineistaken 01-21-2017 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21470986)
If he had spoken more like that he would have won by a landslide. His failure was in not enlisting the coloured and Latino vote. The largest groups of poor who have suffered the most under previous administrations.

Haven't he got very high percentage colored votes?

kane 01-21-2017 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21471097)
Will more politicians support the idea of bringing back jobs and wealth to the people?

Every politician in the US says they are for bringing back jobs and creating better jobs and increasing personal income. Most of them, however, do little or nothing to actually follow up on that. We will have to wait and see with Trump.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-21-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 21472807)
Every politician in the US says they are for bringing back jobs and creating better jobs and increasing personal income. Most of them, however, do little or nothing to actually follow up on that. We will have to wait and see with Trump.

He has already brought jobs back to the USA, even before he was pres :thumbsup

INever 01-21-2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21471583)
exactly...

he´s already destroying America with regards to Japan & China, the US´s largest creditors & promises to build these new roads and bridges, where´s he borrowing that money from. Because if he continues to pull out from the rest of the world anymore, the US will be poorer than ever before!


Big thoughts :2 cents:

First...Do not mix China and Japan, they're totally different.

Second...Wrong. They owe us.
Anyway, yeah, we are trading useless pieces of paper for Chinese junk.
And then the Chinese are coming here and spending the paper.
Good so far.

We just want China to buy more of our junk without putting tariffs on.
You do know that they tax our junk but we don't tax theirs?

Paul Markham 01-21-2017 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHost (Post 21471358)
He targeted a specific kind of people when he was in campaign. Probably he was trying to secure the vote of this people and considered others not so important in accomplishing his goal.

Everyone knows you can't be successful if you target everybody, you have to filter, and whites are 72%(ish) of USA population, while blacks and latino combined make 28%(ish).

That's a very racist view of Americans. IMO being unemployed is more important than the colour of a man's skin.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loreen (Post 21471181)
I found it just as populist and full of hate like the rest of them :error

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21471187)
Agreed 100%

Bringing back jobs is populist, but can't see the hate there. Maybe you can tell us why you see hate. Unless you think strengthening borders is hateful.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21471385)
Words vs Actions. See that's the problem with you right wingbots, you worry more about your word of the day than actually doing anything. Trump has yet to do anything for "the people" while Obama did a lot..

Clinton never promised to strengthen borders, stop the US being the customer/dumping ground for Third World goods, in fact, while she's been in office she has worked hard in the opposite direction.

That's the problem with you left wing nuts, you're more concerned over people's rights than giving them jobs.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21471583)
exactly...

he´s already destroying America with regards to Japan & China, the US´s largest creditors & promises to build these new roads and bridges, where´s he borrowing that money from. Because if he continues to pull out from the rest of the world anymore, the US will be poorer than ever before!

Is Trump right that America subsidises the world? - ITV News


Big thoughts :2 cents:

Agree. Under previous administrations the US has got into terrible debt by exporting jobs, losing tax revenue and putting people on benefits. While they did that they allowed the infrastructure to deteriorate to a point that fixing it will be very expensive.

As for pulling out from the rest of the world. Pull your head out of the sand.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21471679)
a failed community organizer who destroyed his party, set the groundwork for trump, vs a billionaire with a jet that grabs models by the pussy, & laid waste to 2 corrupt political families. (bush/clinton)

you have a funny idea of whose more interesting.

:1orglaugh

He was blocked a lot of the time by the Republican Party. We wait to see what they will do during Trump's time in office.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21471844)
Lol at "Obama did a lot", he was the absolute king of all talk and no action. Obama failed to deliver on over 90% of his promises. I'm sure you'll find a way to blame the Republican congress, but the bottom line is, he never was able to back up much of anything he promised.

The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact

Did the Republicans block a lot of what he tried to pass or allow it through?

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 21472663)
Once Trump made immigration reform as part of his platform, there was never going to be any way for him to "enlist the latino vote". Wall or no wall, latinos are just too sensitive about immigration reform, even if it just means a more concerted effort to keep out the illegals.

Maybe you're right. The migrant vote in the UK is terrified they can't bring more of their village to the UK.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 21472747)
I thought his speech was amazing. Wish we had someone in charge saying we will put Britain first in every decision we make. Fucking brilliant

At the moment that's impossible. More and more the EU is making those decisions. Once out Westminster has the power back.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 21472765)
Haven't he got very high percentage colored votes?

http://politicsthatwork.com/img/trump.gif

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cps...s_race_624.png

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 21472807)
Every politician in the US says they are for bringing back jobs and creating better jobs and increasing personal income. Most of them, however, do little or nothing to actually follow up on that. We will have to wait and see with Trump.

We will have to wait and see with Trump. :thumbsup

Better than condemning him before he starts.

Paul Markham 01-22-2017 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by INever (Post 21473863)
First...Do not mix China and Japan, they're totally different.

Second...Wrong. They owe us.
Anyway, yeah, we are trading useless pieces of paper for Chinese junk.
And then the Chinese are coming here and spending the paper.
Good so far.

We just want China to buy more of our junk without putting tariffs on.

It's better if Americans make those goods and spend their wages in America.

Quote:

You do know that they tax our junk but we don't tax theirs?
That's disgusting, but what happens when the 1% dictate policy.


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