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Rochard 12-09-2016 11:27 AM

Report Shows Vast Reach of Russian Doping: 1,000 Athletes, 30 Sports
 
Looks like Russia is busted. The World Anti-Doping Agency just laid out their case...

"Asked for their evidence, they zeroed in on the individuals who had enabled the cheating as well as those who had benefited from it, publishing on Friday more than 1,166 pieces of proof, including emails, documents and scientific and forensic analysis of doping samples.

As part of his inquiry, Mr. McLaren examined 100 urine samples of Russian athletes from Sochi out of about 250 that have been preserved since 2014. All of them had been tampered with, Mr. McLaren said, including those of numerous medalists, four of them gold."


Fucking wow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/sp...port.html?_r=0

Bladewire 12-09-2016 11:44 AM

Watch Putin's pets post saying USA is the same and/or worse and that this is exaggerated story and/or fake news. Wehateporn will post an anti USA conspiracy accusing us of these same, or much much worse. 3 .. 2 . . 1 . .

pimpmaster9000 12-09-2016 12:21 PM

I hate to break it to you but all pro athletes are doped...some get caught some do not but as a pro athlete you are faced with constant injuries and huge stress on the body from constant mechanical wear and tear...you can not afford to be natural, you simply do not have the time to recuperate naturally...

those on this forum that have tried steroids know how fast the body recovers while on...its not just steroids of course theres many different types of PED-s...fast acting steroids are out of your system in 5-10 days no drug test in the world can detect them...its a matter of who is lucky to not get caught and who is not...

doping is the norm in pro sports..

Sarn 12-09-2016 12:24 PM

thanks obama :1orglaugh

Bladewire 12-09-2016 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21367888)
I hate to break it to you but all pro athletes are doped...some get caught some do not but as a pro athlete you are faced with constant injuries and huge stress on the body from constant mechanical wear and tear...you can not afford to be natural, you simply do not have the time to recuperate naturally...

those on this forum that have tried steroids know how fast the body recovers while on...its not just steroids of course theres many different types of PED-s...fast acting steroids are out of your system in 5-10 days no drug test in the world can detect them...its a matter of who is lucky to not get caught and who is not...

doping is the norm in pro sports..

Says the Russian with thieving doped athletes



We should have an all natural Olympics & an all steriods Olympics. But unfortunately, Russians would STILL use steroids in the all natural Olympics. Putin has no honor.

pimpmaster9000 12-09-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21367915)
Says the Russian with thieving doped athletes



We should have an all natural Olympics & an all steriods Olympics. But unfortunately, Russians would STILL use steroids in the all natural Olympics. Putin has no honor.

You are naive if you think its not exactly the same in the USA...its not so much about speed and strength as it is about recovery...recovery on steroids is unbelievable...you can not afford to not be on...

bronco67 12-09-2016 12:56 PM

Russian and cheating goes together like peanut butter and jelly.

Rochard 12-09-2016 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21367888)
I hate to break it to you but all pro athletes are doped...some get caught some do not but as a pro athlete you are faced with constant injuries and huge stress on the body from constant mechanical wear and tear...you can not afford to be natural, you simply do not have the time to recuperate naturally...

those on this forum that have tried steroids know how fast the body recovers while on...its not just steroids of course theres many different types of PED-s...fast acting steroids are out of your system in 5-10 days no drug test in the world can detect them...its a matter of who is lucky to not get caught and who is not...

doping is the norm in pro sports..

LOL. Sure sure.

So basically all countries do this but only Russia as been caught.

Seems likely.

Sarn 12-09-2016 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21367915)
Says the Russian with thieving doped athletes



We should have an all natural Olympics & an all steriods Olympics. But unfortunately, Russians would STILL use steroids in the all natural Olympics. Putin has no honor.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Our official said Americans eat new doping but for us sold old))
but when there was a conflict of politicians(putin - soros) they blame us in this

Google Expert 12-09-2016 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21367948)
You are naive if you think its not exactly the same in the USA...its not so much about speed and strength as it is about recovery...recovery on steroids is unbelievable...you can not afford to not be on...

In Russia the FSB were running the whole scam.

I doubt that in the US the FBI does the same for American athletes.

pimpmaster9000 12-09-2016 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21367963)
LOL. Sure sure.

So basically all countries do this but only Russia as been caught.

Seems likely.

No american has ever been caught doping:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...n_doping_cases


If you have ever trained at pro levels you would understand the huge problem with recovery...you can microdose and get away with it even during competition season...some orals have a half life of 4-5 hours total...in 10-15 hours they are gone...the healing is done...its not about speed or strength at all...its about miraculous recovery...

pimpmaster9000 12-09-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 21367984)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Our official said Americans eat new doping but for us sold old))
but when there was a conflict of politicians(putin - soros) they blame us in this

if you change the delivery mechanism (esther) of a testosterone derivate you can go virtually undetected...doping tests are very very specific, this means they test for an exact substance...for example ben johnson was caught with winstrol (stanazolol) Copy paste: 17β-Hydroxy- 17α-methyl-5α-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole

If you change just one ring behind the word methyl you are basically invisible to a drug test...it is not enough to test for elevated testosterone levels or blood oxygen levels...you need to find the substance in order for the test to be positive...if it is a fast clearing compound with a very very short half life it is virtually undetectable 10 hours after administration...

Sarn 12-09-2016 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21368020)
if you change the delivery mechanism (esther) of a testosterone derivate you can go virtually undetected...doping tests are very very specific, this means they test for an exact substance...for example ben johnson was caught with winstrol (stanazolol) Copy paste: 17β-Hydroxy- 17α-methyl-5α-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole

If you change just one ring behind the word methyl you are basically invisible to a drug test...it is not enough to test for elevated testosterone levels or blood oxygen levels...you need to find the substance in order for the test to be positive...if it is a fast clearing compound with a very very short half life it is virtually undetectable 10 hours after administration...

I'm talking about the same thing. just the US medicine number 1)), and they are much more advanced in this. and the old method they sell to people like Putin for made a political advertising

pimpmaster9000 12-09-2016 02:22 PM

I'm going through a black phase and flo jo was hot as fuck IMO pity she died...fastest woman of all time...no doping :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://blackthen.com/wp-content/upl...th-Joyner1.jpg

Rochard 12-09-2016 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 21368014)
No american has ever been caught doping:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...n_doping_cases


If you have ever trained at pro levels you would understand the huge problem with recovery...you can microdose and get away with it even during competition season...some orals have a half life of 4-5 hours total...in 10-15 hours they are gone...the healing is done...its not about speed or strength at all...its about miraculous recovery...

You seem to be missing something here....

You are talking about a handful of cases vs thousands - The entire Russian program seems to have been involved in this.

pimpmaster9000 12-09-2016 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21368347)
You seem to be missing something here....

You are talking about a handful of cases vs thousands - The entire Russian program seems to have been involved in this.

I have no dog in this fight...I am just telling you that at pro levels you can not afford not to take PED-s...it is the reality of pro sport...you get injured and you can not afford to heal naturally it takes too long you miss too much while others progress...all you have to do is small dose over a long period with an exotic variation that does not show up on tests, yet...

I do not claim all athletes cheat but lance armstrong was one of the most widely tested athletes in the world and he beat the hardest testing system there was for 10 years...the only reason they got "caught" was email not testing...all you have to do is dose carefully and use fast acting PED-s


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