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baddog 04-07-2003 02:18 PM

Fisting and Watersports
 
I have heard a lot of opinions, but nothing I know is a knowledgeable answer.

Does anyone know for sure whether or not these niches are legal?

directfiesta 04-07-2003 02:49 PM

In the US, mostly illegal ... Patrick Collins ( Elegant Angel) made a few vids, and had to stop selling them ( one is " The Fist, the whole fist, nothing but...).

Max Hardcore doesn't sell his fisting/watersports in the US...

So make your own evaluation.... very risky.

baddog 04-07-2003 03:37 PM

thanks, but again, this sounds like an "opinion." Does anyone know for sure?

UnseenWorld 04-07-2003 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
thanks, but again, this sounds like an "opinion." Does anyone know for sure?
The reason is that there is no answer to the question. What is "illegal" in porn is what is "obscene," and that is generally determined once you end up in court.

So, try to stay out of court.

There are some "patently obscene" things, like child pornography, but most of the rest of it is gray area which depends upon a judge or a jury to finally settle it.

JeremySF 04-07-2003 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld


The reason is that there is no answer to the question. What is "illegal" in porn is what is "obscene," and that is generally determined once you end up in court.

So, try to stay out of court.

There are some "patently obscene" things, like child pornography, but most of the rest of it is gray area which depends upon a judge or a jury to finally settle it.


and what's makes that area more gray is that there are almost no national standards on what is/isn't obscene (save for child porn). The Supreme Court gave localities the right to define obscenity for *their* communities. Obscenity is a local issue, which is a lot of porn is illegal in a few american states and/or counties. Likewise, that's why prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada but not elsewhere.


Very gray indeed.


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