Dawgy
 

I kept messaging you on icq.. Why aren't you responding?

its called a phone.

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I miss Dawgy. We just moved into our new offices today...... I still have the little yellow sticky note he left on my computer the day he landed in Phoenix. It says "woof".

what you are doing is called sexual harassment

and i miss the $15k he hasnt paid for a year now

dayum!:1orglaugh

:xomunch

:uhoh

http://www.pornisbad.com/images/smilies/lurk.gif anyone?

Money for nothin' and chicks for free!

If I had a million bucks, I'd do two chicks at the same time. :winkwink:

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still ignoring

If I had a million bucks, I'd be a damn annoying little prick (So, money wouldn't change me).

Hope ya get your cash Lane.

I thought you two worked this out face to face in Las Vegas in January.

well, he said he was gonna pay... which obviously didnt happen.. he has my paypal info and everything..

i sent him 6 icq messages for last 6 days.. no response..

he posts on gfy everyday and didnt respond to this thread either..

You would take paypal for 15,000 ? Just get him to send you a money order (assuming he ever pays you) I imagine the paypal fees would be incredible

Give it up already, if he had the $$ and was going to pay you, he would have. Chalk it up to a loss and move on.
Just my 2 cents

Why would you need a million bucks? I don't get it.

well, if he sends it all at once, of course paypal is not the best option.. he promised me to pay in smaller amounts and thats not happening either.

hint: office space

15 fucking thousand, and the man is not even capable of talking his gay ass out of it, gimme a break.

:ugone2far

lets not start insults yet

hey, it's your money, your business, but I wouldn't use the term 'yet' in the case of 1-year-old-dues. *shrugs*

btw - I don't think calling his ass gay is an insult at all. :1orglaugh

what is the 15k for? Cocaine? Extasy?

selling traffic. and cocaine. and a little LSD. :)

15k? Surprised he just doesn't steal it. He stole over 30k from a past employer.

this is getting ridiculous. ive held back as long as i can, its time for me to say what i want to say.

if i had the 15k i might give it to you, but i dont have it. and honestly im not that excited to be paying for 6 weeks of child porn circle jerk traffic that i didnt want. i told you numerous times to stop sending me traffic and you didnt. i told u several times that the traffic was coming from cp cj sites and instead of dealing with those people sending you/me the shit, u gave me a script to hide the reffering url from my sponsors. so no wonder my sponsors stopped converting, cuz cp cj surfers dont buy anything but cp. i think you need to get a grip on whos using your script. your excuse "its a free script, what can i do" is bullshit. get some control.

i tried to just ignore the fact that i was getting fucked and work out a way to pay you but the money hasnt been availble and im tired of trying to find ways to pay you for something i didnt want and didnt ask for. if the traffic had been good tgp clicks like we agreed on in the beginning, not from asshole russians using your free script to run childporn CJ sites, id feel a lot more obligated to pay you, and would have the money anyway, because the sponsors would have kept converting.

maybe you need the money for school or whatever, but until i get a job and/or get back into webmastering, the money wont be there.

as for you kocur26, i dont know who you are, but ive never stolen 30k or any amount from anyone. you stating this as if its some kind of fact is borderline slander and i dont appreciate it.

all this being said, im done with this. if i somehow magically come into some cash ill work something out with lane, but until then im working my ass off to get my life back together and thats all i can do. but i will not debat this or anything else on a public board. im sorry your icq messages didnt reach me, but that isnt exactly the most reliable way to reach me. you have my email and i think even my phone number, so dont try to pretend i was ignoring you.

by the way, i am not available 24/7 on GFY... i am not a board whore, i have a life and i am trying to work as much as possible, not hover on boards all day.

bye bye

Wow. That was really pathetic.

with few words:

fuck you,i don't pay

yup. sadness.

Its like my daddy used to always tell me, "son, go make some popcorn"

LOL :1orglaugh

what a fucking idiot. now I truely believe that insults are more than appropriate.

"i tried to just ignore the fact that i was getting fucked"

yeah ok


"id feel a lot more obligated to pay you, and would have the money anyway, because the sponsors would have kept converting. "


if that was the case traffic brokers wouldn't exist. When you buy traffic you run with the risk to have losses as well. Anyone that has ever bought even a couple of hits would tell the same. Don't bs around this issue.


"all this being said, im done with this......

bye bye"


Lane is one of the most honest and polite people around. He is what we call good guy. You are taking advantage of this and the ones that know Lane, including me, do not like it. Stay tuned.

Dawgy is just a dirty faggot... and a broke one at that.

i agree, i like lane. he's cool. i hate how this has worked out.

however youre ignoring the fact that i asked him to stop sending after 1 week and it took 6 weeks for it to stop. and youre ignoring the fact that i pointed out to him that the traffic was mostly CJ CP traffic, and instead of cutting off people sending that, he placed the burdeon on me and told me to hide the refers from my sponsors... so he basically told me that he knew he was selling me CJ CP traffic, but that he didnt care.

Right, he kept on sending you for another 5 weeks although you told him to stop? I somewhat can't believe that.

this is not true dawgy,
you asked me a few times to pause it, and sometimes just decrease the volume. and i always did what you asked for..
at the end you asked me to completely stop the traffic and these were your almost exact words: "please stop sending traffic because i cannot risk owing you any more money". At that point i stopped it within like 24-36 hours or something..


anyway, i'm writing a response for the rest of the stuff you just wrote, hold on...

I bet this page gets refreshed a zillion times in the next minute or two :1orglaugh

held back? we have been talking about this since the first day you started being late on payments, which is over a year ago. so the twisted *facts* you said below is what you didnt say to my face as you held back?

in december you have promised me you were gonna start paying me in smaller amounths, like $500 every 2 weeks, which was fine with me. i didnt ask you for the whole 15k all at once, even though it is so long overdue.

first, get some facts straight ok?

you have told me to pause or decrease the traffic a couple times for short periods, and every single time i did what you asked me to do. i never forced you an amount you didnt ask for. at the end you asked me to completely stop the traffic and these were your almost exact words: "please stop sending traffic because i cannot risk owing you any more money". At that point i stopped it within like 24-36 hours or something.. this a fact.

we were both filtering the unwanted traffic, and i contacted the site owners when i found their contact info.. yes, i have no control over their sites and i did my best on blocking them.. besides i was giving you the traffic for the half price of what i sold to other people and you're still talking about the bad quality of traffic. i even dropped the price half way through to help you.

about you losing money and not converting the traffic:
it was coming from thousands of different websites and you suddenly started telling me you stopped converting overnight.. and you looked for the reason on me and on my traffic... the quality of the traffic cannot possibly change overnigt, i told you thousand times.. how come you didnt suspect your sponsors as much as you suspected me? i dont get it.. you were using sponsors like ifriends and you sure as hell know about the bad experiences some people had with them and you still wanna blame me that you lost money on this?

you even told you were gonna try other sponsors and start "gambling" with the traffic hoping start making profit again. its my fault i let you do that and stay behind on payments, but it doesnt justify your situation.


you never told me such reasons for being late on payments.
maybe you were getting fucked in terms of losing money but you cannot blame me into this. i only blame myself for letting you keep playing with the traffic even though i knew you were losing money.. but then again i never forced you to do so.. you asked for it, you agreed to buy more and more... it is not true that i sent you traffic when u asked me not to.. if i have been late on pausing it once or twice, it was a matter of hours or a day, which doesnt come anywhere close to $15k worth of traffic. you were 2 months behind on payments!


i dont know him either.


i dont have your phone#.

i added you to my buddy list on gfy, and i bumped this thread only every time i saw you online there.. you do post here everyday and thats why i expected you to see it since my icq messages magically disappeared even though it worked thousand times before when we used to talked there..


i talked to you face to face on Internext, remember? i even hung out with you there for a while even though i was surrounded with gay people instead i could be hanging out with pornstar chicks (no offense there).. you have told me to send you my payment info after the show and you were gonna start paying, remember that too?.. i even gave you my paypal info again a while ago.. but i havent heard a thing from you since then..


in short, you have agreed to pay me... i even agreed you could do that in smaller amounts over time.. if you dont keep these promises, do you think i am supposed to leave you alone... if i get the feeling you are hiding from me, i am not supposed wonder whats your intension?

i expect you to start paying dawgy but its not like i'm pointing a gun in your head.. i have waited over a year now. imagine how someone else would react in my situation.. i've been extremely nice to you about this.

be a man, pay it up. dont hurt your reputation.

I'd say his reputation is plenty hurt after this stunt.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

lol, seriously we're cool personally.. but this business deal has to be taken care of.

anyway, i'm beat
cya tomorrow

Dawgy, the whole point of buying traffic like this is that you take a risk - Lane risks that he might get less cash than he would have got if he sent it direct to a sponsor, and you risk that you might pay more than the traffic is actually worth. Buying traffic per click rather than by productivity is always a gamble - and you shouldn't gamble more than you can afford to lose.

But can't you guys reach a compromise? If it was really child porn traffic, Lane shouldn't be charging for that. Dawgy: why don?t you offer to pay something at least ? the traffic must have been worth something.

only a very small % was coming from sites that have cp related words in their urls (like lolita etc, which is not illegal), and very few of them actually had cp description on their pages.. once he started sending it directly to a blindlink sponsor, they started to complain about a couple of those url's, just because they were there, not because any significant amount of traffic was coming from them..

believe me, the price was right. right now its even higher and i have happy customers. if it was easy to convert with sponsors, i wouldnt be selling it in the first place. but it can have many other usefull purposes like feeding tgp's etc.. but he stopped feeding his huge tgp, which he started out with, and decided sending directly to sponsor pages.. it was his decision and he started losing money along the way.. even though i blame myself for not refusing to sell him when started saying that he was losing money, he simply didnt wanna stop trying, because at the beginning , he had really high profit margin and he was expecting to get back there.. i really suspect his sponsors for the sudden drop in signups.. some days he was talking about 50+ signups...it still surprises me that the money he made those days didnt cover his losses.. anyway, the thing is, he was always falling behind on making payments, but he was making them eventually..we worked on this for over 4 months.. but he completely stopped sending money the day he also decided to stop receiving traffic.. at that point he was $15k behind..

fucking unbelievable.

WOOF WOOF, where my dawgs at? :glugglug