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  • onwebcam
    Fake Nick 1.0
    • Oct 2005
    • 27689
    #1

    How to give Hillary a 12 point lead

    You poll 9% more democrats than Republicans and a 3% point sampling error.

    METHODOLOGY
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    This ABC News poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone
    Oct. 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,155 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

    ABC Poll Oversamples Dems by 9%, Claims Hillary Leading » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

    Now if the pollster is willing to do this they are also willing to rig the actual calling list. Which means that Hillary is actually likely behind rather than neck and neck.
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    • JSWENSON
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2004
      • 3153
      #2
      When are you guys going to figure out that your fucktarded ass lines of attack are just that. It's not "oversampling" when your stats match the demographics. 9% Dem is a little high but there are NOT equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans in the USA. Fucknut.

      Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

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        • kane
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Aug 2001
          • 20684
          #3
          Originally posted by onwebcam
          You poll 9% more democrats than Republicans and a 3% point sampling error.

          METHODOLOGY
          ?
          This ABC News poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone
          Oct. 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,155 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

          ABC Poll Oversamples Dems by 9%, Claims Hillary Leading » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

          Now if the pollster is willing to do this they are also willing to rig the actual calling list. Which means that Hillary is actually likely behind rather than neck and neck.
          They ask more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans.

          Of all registered voters in the US, there are about 55 million registered Republicans and about 72 million registered Democrats with around 42 million registered independents.

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            • nico-t
              emperor of my world
              • Aug 2004
              • 29901
              #4
              any democrat who can think for themselves will vote Trump.

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                • JSWENSON
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 3153
                  #5
                  Originally posted by kane
                  They ask more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans.

                  Of all registered voters in the US, there are about 55 million registered Republicans and about 72 million registered Democrats with around 42 million registered independents.
                  No way man. they should ask 100 Democrats and 100 Republicans to be fair! Hell, they should ask 100 Green Party candidates so it can be a 3 way tie in the polls!

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                    • onwebcam
                      Fake Nick 1.0
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27689
                      #6
                      Originally posted by JSWENSON
                      When are you guys going to figure out that your fucktarded ass lines of attack are just that. It's not "oversampling" when your stats match the demographics. 9% Dem is a little high but there are NOT equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans in the USA. Fucknut.

                      Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends
                      You are aware Gallup no longer does polling because they were doing this and "picked" the wrong winner several times in a row.

                      Also there was a higher, in fact record high, turnout of Republican voters in the Primaries so the truth is its probably about an even percentage for this race.

                      Simply put there's not just one factor involved.
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                        • Rochard
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                          • Dec 2001
                          • 75798
                          #7
                          Originally posted by kane
                          They ask more Democrats because there are more registered Democrats than there are registered Republicans.

                          Of all registered voters in the US, there are about 55 million registered Republicans and about 72 million registered Democrats with around 42 million registered independents.
                          Problem solved.

                          Now, let's have another investigation about emails.
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                            • onwebcam
                              Fake Nick 1.0
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 27689
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Rochard
                              Problem solved.

                              Now, let's have another investigation about emails.
                              As usual you ignore the post just before yours debunking that concept.
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                                • JSWENSON
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Aug 2004
                                  • 3153
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by onwebcam
                                  Simply put there's not just one factor involved.
                                  There sure are, like the fact that national polls aren't important when the electoral college goes by state. How's that working out for Trumpy?

                                  Early voting update ? an analysis of North Carolina and Florida - CBS News

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                                    • kane
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 20684
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by onwebcam
                                      You are aware Gallup no longer does polling because they were doing this and "picked" the wrong winner several times in a row.

                                      Also there was a higher, in fact record high, turnout of Republican voters in the Primaries so the truth is its probably about an even percentage for this race.

                                      Simply put there's not just one factor involved.
                                      A record high turnout of Republicans doesn't affect the polling data. They simply ask if you are registered to a party and who you plan to vote for. If the person says they are a registered Democrat and plan to vote for Hillary, you have to take them at their word. Maybe they won't vote for her come election day, but that doesn't mean the poll is wrong because the poll reflects the answers given to the questions asked.

                                      I have said for a while this election may come down to turnout. The independents are clearly not happy with either candidate nor, frankly, are many members of either of the parties. Trump has a fired up core of supporters, and Hillary has a great ground game in place. Whoever can get more of their base to the polls on election day may well win this election.

                                      Still, if you have 10 people and 4 of them are Republicans, 6 of them are Democrats, and 4 are independents you can't ignore one Democrat and go out and find another Republican to make it "fair" because that doesn't reflect the political make-up of the country.

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                                        • onwebcam
                                          Fake Nick 1.0
                                          • Oct 2005
                                          • 27689
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by kane
                                          A record high turnout of Republicans doesn't affect the polling data. They simply ask if you are registered to a party and who you plan to vote for. If the person says they are a registered Democrat and plan to vote for Hillary, you have to take them at their word. Maybe they won't vote for her come election day, but that doesn't mean the poll is wrong because the poll reflects the answers given to the questions asked.

                                          I have said for a while this election may come down to turnout. The independents are clearly not happy with either candidate nor, frankly, are many members of either of the parties. Trump has a fired up core of supporters, and Hillary has a great ground game in place. Whoever can get more of their base to the polls on election day may well win this election.

                                          Still, if you have 10 people and 4 of them are Republicans, 6 of them are Democrats, and 4 are independents you can't ignore one Democrat and go out and find another Republican to make it "fair" because that doesn't reflect the political make-up of the country.
                                          Republicans had a record high and democrats had a low turnout. So yes it does matter. You can't just use one factor to figure. I would love to see latimes method myself because I honestly think theirs is a bit more of reality as far as polling. Just to cheap to pay for it I personally believe Trump will win popular and Clinton electoral because some will go against the electorate and it will drag out more than likely past inauguration day. History will be made on this election even more so than it is now. I hope it puts an end to the electoral college myself.

                                          BTW that's 14 people
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                                            • Seth Manson
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                                              • Jul 2010
                                              • 3988
                                              #12
                                              All you really have to do is look at the numbers of people showing up for a rally for Hillary, and compare that with the numbers showing up for Trump.

                                              Oh wait, the media doesnt report that. Wonder why?

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                                                • kane
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                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 20684
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                  Republicans had a record high and democrats had a low turnout. So yes it does matter. You can't just use one factor to figure. I would love to see latimes method myself because I honestly think theirs is a bit more of reality as far as polling. Just to cheap to pay for it I personally believe Trump will win popular and Clinton electoral because some will go against the electorate and it will drag out more than likely past inauguration day. History will be made on this election even more so than it is now. I hope it puts an end to the electoral college myself.
                                                  So your argument is that they should be asking more Republicans because more Republicans turned out to vote during the primary elections?

                                                  Also, not that many more Republicans voted in the primaries than Democrats.

                                                  Total votes cast for Republican candidates - 31.1 million
                                                  Total votes cast for Democrat candidates - 30.12 million

                                                  When you take into consideration that there are about 146 million registered voters and about 20 states have open primaries that allow independents to vote, that difference in primary votes is pretty small. It also is not a guarantee that all of those people will vote for Trump of the 31.1 million only 14.01 million actually voted for Trump.

                                                  And you're correct. My math was off in my previous example.

                                                  Also, BTW, I agree that the electoral college needs to go away. It is outdated and encourages corruption.

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                                                    • Google Expert
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                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 14294
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by onwebcam
                                                      You poll 9% more democrats than Republicans and a 3% point sampling error.

                                                      METHODOLOGY
                                                      –
                                                      This ABC News poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone
                                                      Oct. 20-23, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,155 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 36-27-31 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.

                                                      ABC Poll Oversamples Dems by 9%, Claims Hillary Leading » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

                                                      Now if the pollster is willing to do this they are also willing to rig the actual calling list. Which means that Hillary is actually likely behind rather than neck and neck.
                                                      they're preparing the public for Hilary's win when they rig the elections

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                                                        • JSWENSON
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                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 3153
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Seth Manson
                                                          All you really have to do is look at the numbers of people showing up for a rally for Hillary, and compare that with the numbers showing up for Trump.

                                                          Oh wait, the media doesnt report that. Wonder why?
                                                          Mostly because it's irrelevant.

                                                          But since you brought it up I am reporting the turnout for the North Carolina rally held by Hillary. Must win state for Trump.

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                                                            • C H R I S
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                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                              • 10842
                                                              #16
                                                              Infowars is solid journalism ...lol

                                                              So tired of this shitshow -- let it end.
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                                                                • onwebcam
                                                                  Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                  • 27689
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by kane
                                                                  So your argument is that they should be asking more Republicans because more Republicans turned out to vote during the primary elections?

                                                                  Also, not that many more Republicans voted in the primaries than Democrats.

                                                                  Total votes cast for Republican candidates - 31.1 million
                                                                  Total votes cast for Democrat candidates - 30.12 million

                                                                  When you take into consideration that there are about 146 million registered voters and about 20 states have open primaries that allow independents to vote, that difference in primary votes is pretty small. It also is not a guarantee that all of those people will vote for Trump of the 31.1 million only 14.01 million actually voted for Trump.

                                                                  And you're correct. My math was off in my previous example.

                                                                  Also, BTW, I agree that the electoral college needs to go away. It is outdated and encourages corruption.
                                                                  No but it can't be factored just by amount of registered voters. And as I've mentioned a number of times before the person and/or group that provides the call list provides the outcome.

                                                                  "Hey, when can we meet? I also want to get your Atlas folks to recommend oversamples for our polling before we start in February. By market, regions, etc. I want to get this all compiled into one set of recommendations so we can maximize what we get out of our media polling."

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                                                                    • noshit
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                                                                      • Dec 2001
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by JSWENSON
                                                                      Mostly because it's irrelevant.

                                                                      But since you brought it up I am reporting the turnout for the North Carolina rally held by Hillary. Must win state for Trump.

                                                                      Your Lost Puppy Festoon is Unraveling..!
                                                                      Considering the Fact those People Showed Up To see Magilla Gorilla Michele Obama and Rottenham had to crash the party to give the appearance it was Her Crowd.... Pathetic..!

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                                                                        • JSWENSON
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 3153
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by noshit
                                                                          Your Lost Puppy Festoon is Unraveling..!
                                                                          Considering the Fact those People Showed Up To see Magilla Gorilla Michele Obama and Rottenham had to crash the party to give the appearance it was Her Crowd.... Pathetic..!

                                                                          .
                                                                          What's pathetic is racist pieces of shit calling the First Lady, who has higher approval ratings than everyone by the way, a gorilla. "But she made the kids eat healthy food!"

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                                                                            • Waiter
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                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                              • 15986
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Wake me up when October ends ...
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                                                                                • noshit
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                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 1582
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by JSWENSON
                                                                                  What's pathetic is racist pieces of shit calling the First Lady, who has higher approval ratings than everyone by the way, a gorilla. "But she made the kids eat healthy food!"
                                                                                  Magilla Gorilla is a Huge Compliment Winston; Because at Least Magilla Gorilla has some Redeemable Entertainment Value

                                                                                  Whereas Mobama's Sanctimonious Degradation of Women and Youth by Glorifying Drug Dealers and Date-Rape Rappers Poisons the Very People she Lies to You about caring for...
                                                                                  Not to mention her school lunch 'Nutrition' program is 3 Standard Deviations below the mean of Prison Food

                                                                                  oh and...



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                                                                                    • BlackCrayon
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                      • 19634
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      hillary is a corporate puppet and trump is an egomaniac fool who has no idea what he's doing. i can't believe this is the best shit the US could come up with. really sad. no matter who wins its bad news for everyone.
                                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                        • noshit
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                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 1582
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                          hillary is a corporate puppet and trump is an egomaniac fool who has no idea what he's doing. i can't believe this is the best shit the US could come up with. really sad. no matter who wins its bad news for everyone.
                                                                                          You Have no Clue what You're talking about, Sails. You're borderline Full-On mental retardation
                                                                                          Trump is the best thing to happen since George Washington

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                                                                                            • Yanks_Todd
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                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 2493
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by C H R I S
                                                                                              Infowars is solid journalism ...lol

                                                                                              So tired of this shitshow -- let it end.

                                                                                              Amen seriously.
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                                                                                                • Yanks_Todd
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                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                  • 2493
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by noshit
                                                                                                  Magilla Gorilla is a Huge Compliment Winston; Because at Least Magilla Gorilla has some Redeemable Entertainment Value

                                                                                                  Whereas Mobama's Sanctimonious Degradation of Women and Youth by Glorifying Drug Dealers and Date-Rape Rappers Poisons the Very People she Lies to You about caring for...
                                                                                                  Not to mention her school lunch 'Nutrition' program is 3 Standard Deviations below the mean of Prison Food

                                                                                                  oh and...



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                                                                                                  Why aren't people like this getting banned. Maybe it is time to be done here.
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                                                                                                    • JSWENSON
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                      • 3153
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Yanks_Todd
                                                                                                      Why aren't people like this getting banned. Maybe it is time to be done here.
                                                                                                      They've been around giving adult webmasters a bad name since the 90's and nobody gave a shit. Of course the edgy industry had quite a few assholes willing to risk owning adult sites back then but it's been time to clean house for a long ass time.

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                                                                                                        • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                                          • 19634
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by noshit
                                                                                                          You Have no Clue what You're talking about, Sails. You're borderline Full-On mental retardation
                                                                                                          Trump is the best thing to happen since George Washington

                                                                                                          .
                                                                                                          The only reason people like you like trump is because he is the anti-candidate. it doesn't make trump a good candidate by default. he could be a slobbering homeless person with half a head missing but because he doesn't represent the political status quo, you'd vote for him.
                                                                                                          you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                                              • 75798
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by C H R I S
                                                                                                              Infowars is solid journalism ...lol

                                                                                                              So tired of this shitshow -- let it end.
                                                                                                              It's pure entertainment at this point.
                                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                  • 51390
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by noshit
                                                                                                                  Magilla Gorilla is a Huge Compliment Winston; Because at Least Magilla Gorilla has some Redeemable Entertainment Value


                                                                                                                  .

                                                                                                                  Sucks to be you.


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                                                                                                                    • JFK
                                                                                                                      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                      • 67369
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                                                      any democrat who can think for themselves will vote Trump.

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                                                                                                                        • onwebcam
                                                                                                                          Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                          • 27689
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          8 point lead change in a matter of days... What has changed in those days? Nothing.

                                                                                                                          Methodology

                                                                                                                          This ABC News/Washington poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone Oct. 23-26, 2016, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,109 likely voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3 points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions are 37-28-29 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents.


                                                                                                                          Clinton's Lead Narrows to 4 Points, Wider Majority Expects Her to Win (POLL) - ABC News


                                                                                                                          She's dropping like bird shit in NYC in even the rigged polls.
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                                                                                                                            • TampaToker
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                                                                                                                              • May 2006
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                                                                              any democrat who can think for themselves will vote Trump.
                                                                                                                              I have always voted democrat but this time around Trump gets my vote
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                                                                                                                                • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                  • 29026
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by JSWENSON
                                                                                                                                  When are you guys going to figure out that your fucktarded ass lines of attack are just that. It's not "oversampling" when your stats match the demographics. 9% Dem is a little high but there are NOT equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans in the USA. Fucknut.

                                                                                                                                  Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends
                                                                                                                                  another thing these fucktards need to understand is that NOTHING that comes from Alex Jones is either true, nor does it make any sense. Everything that comes from his direciton is false and a lie, because all he does is makes up shit. It's his business model.

                                                                                                                                  Could anyone name one thing Alex Jones has ever said that is true and provable by any tangible fact?

                                                                                                                                  This entire thread and discussion is moot and invalid because of the source.

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                                                                                                                                    • bronco67
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                                                                                      • 29026
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Seth Manson
                                                                                                                                      All you really have to do is look at the numbers of people showing up for a rally for Hillary, and compare that with the numbers showing up for Trump.

                                                                                                                                      ?
                                                                                                                                      Yes...rallies decide elections. You fucking moron.

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                                                                                                                                        • onwebcam
                                                                                                                                          Fake Nick 1.0
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                          • 27689
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                                                                                                                          another thing these fucktards need to understand is that NOTHING that comes from Alex Jones is either true, nor does it make any sense. Everything that comes from his direciton is false and a lie, because all he does is makes up shit. It's his business model.

                                                                                                                                          Could anyone name one thing Alex Jones has ever said that is true and provable by any tangible fact?

                                                                                                                                          This entire thread and discussion is moot and invalid because of the source.
                                                                                                                                          The actual source is the ABC poll. I actually meant to link to it like I did the last one but I'm sure you'll ignore it.
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                                                                                                                                            • C H R I S
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                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2005
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              BREAKING NEWS!!!!!

                                                                                                                                              This is how the polls are rigged:

                                                                                                                                              RIGGING THE POLLS for Democrats
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                                                  I have always voted democrat but this time around Trump gets my vote
                                                                                                                                                  You've made a wise choice.

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