Marines shoot innocent again...
 

These marines have gone nuts.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=2483559




Isn't there a better method for these check points?
You can't just shoot anyone that doesn't stop for one reason or the other .



:2 cents:

why not?

ummm

im against the war....
but if they arent going to stop at the checkpoints, shoot them.
:2 cents:

they are shiting their pants there, and shoot whatever is moving...poor cowards..

lets put you at a checkpoint and see how you act.

I am sure there is a better method to this.


It is possible that the people dont understand what the marines are saying .. or can't hear them or something.

There could be many reasons.

sheesh what a waste of bullets

couldn't they just have an abrams sitting there or something, think of the time they will spend reloading their weapons for the next stupido

A check point with potential sucide bombers to say the least

awesome stuff, i'm damn proud of them

Bring bunch of the kurds to monitor the check points.


They can speak the language and there is no risk to the US soldiers life.

Why are you proud of them for killing innocent civilians ?

They probably do. However, you need personal to search individuals.

wouldn't it be cheaper to use a flame thrower or something, at least then nobody would care who was in the truck

Well, at least with a flamethrower you could make a truck stop by spraying them with it for a second. I think they would get the point.

Seriously though all this shit is raising up anger in that part of the world big time.


Before you know it there is going to be 50 Bin Ladens to deal with.



In getting rid of one tyrant there will be alot of new tyrants created.



Do republicans not see this or what am I missing here?

they think interracial sex is against the law, they're not the brightest light bulb in the pack.

Approach a checkpoint, slow down,seeing warning shots , really slow down, but don't stop, die!

the man whos able to bring peace to the middle east is the anti-christ. biblical, damn, bush might be the anti-christ!

Stop watching Al Jezzera.

What part of stop did they not understand??
Was the part where they flagged em to stop?
Maybe Fire warning shots??

How bout the part where they fire at the vehicle deliberatly missing?

I think in a universal language that means

"FUCKING STOP OR YOU WILL DIE"

I understand a separation of cultures and all that but I think the actions were more than warranted and very fuckin explanatory.

These People are idiots..

1) Put out a white flag or whatver the fuck you have which is white when you get within sight of the checkpoint.

2) Slow the fuck down and do not come flying at these people assigned to protect the checkpoint from the bad guys.

3) Why the fuck are these people speeding towards a checkpoint anyways? im sure that had they slowed down to a normal speed and not posed a direct threat they would have not been shot.

4) these are people saddam has probably paid off (or their familys) . These people may not do any damage to the military or blow shit up but they do do damage to the actual Popularity of the war. More Yodles saying "More innocent people dead".

How about if some POS with a possible bomb was driving towards a nuclear reactor in the USA and blew right by the checkpoint? Do you want to let him crash into the plant and possibly blow it up then ask questions?

You think that if you see armed men in front of you, you would stop. You might also stop when you see barbed wire across the road.

The are defending themselves, 'nuff said.

It's a dirty war....

One could reply, You can't just fly civilian planes into skyscrapers full of innocent people-there has to be a better way.

Sounds like it would work to me :thumbsup

What in the world does that have anything to do with roadchecks?

:smokin :rasta

You are such a shit-talking little punk. Whether you agree with what we are doing there or not, those are American soldiers who risk their lives so that American citizens can enjoy the life we do. During times of war they go to work every day knowing they have a much better chance of coming home dead than you do. Are you really fucking stupid enough to believe that the peace we enjoy over here is from diplomatic WORDS? Bullshit, it's guns that keep the peace. It's an ugly truth, but it's truth. Being our neighbor to the north, you enjoy the fruits of our military by proxy. You'd sing a different tune if Toronto were located in Israel or anywhere else near that Psychotic Hussein and his mustard gas stockpiles. He's already displayed his willingness to conquer his neighbors just for the hell of it. Spew all the bullshit you want about American aggression, but Canada never has to worry about our military stomping in there and occupying you. You don't wake up every day wondering if US tanks are going to rumble into your city and start demolishing buildings. Iraq's neighbors not only have to worry about that, some of them have experienced it.

Let's put your sorry ass on a checkpoint in a hostile country full of people who have vowed to see you dead and regularly commit suicide bombings to achieve that goal. You'd shit your pants and cry. Don't push your own self-loathing off on others. Most of those people have the kind of balls you can only dream of.

SpaceAce

Allow me to suggest an alternative headline: "Potential suicide bombers fail to stop at roadblock again."

It's just as fair as the one used in the title of this thread.

SpaceAce

couldn't they just send a captured jihad POW in another car loaded with tnt, and have a head on collision with the potential roadblock runner?

" innocent civilians "???
how can you say that when you no what happenes when they "give up" and the minute the soldiers put their
weapons down they kill them....
:feels-hot

Thats right Iraqis neighboors already experienced tanks in their country, and they gonna experience it again, once this was is over. And it is gonna be the same US tanks, since Iraqi neighboors all need their oil..eerr countries to be liberated as well..

Im looking at your sig ..

What does that have to do with Iraq man?



Why do you republicans keep on trying to relate sept 11 to this war ?

Iraq to Sept 11?

Cause and Effect and here is how.

Palestine Suicide Bombers are Paid by Hussien to blow them selves up (it becomes a cultural movement where families raise children to kill them selves) . Al Queada Uses the Palastinian cause to its cause and blows up innocent people in the US.

Bush comes and goes straight to the sources and kills them all.

Understand?

Big Oil = Big Money.
Big Oil countries like Iraq give money to terrorist to blow up people and cause strife in the world.

ok then they bring terrorism

lets go further..........

why did they start doing it? what are the causes? Who stured the shit? who invaded in middle east and start bossing people around? and so on...there are not doing it for no reason right..

Think that the rich Muslum business men donate to there mosques? Of course they do...

These mosques take all the money the rich oil men give em and form territorial positions to keep that money comming in. THis is why muslims kill each other and have in fighting add to they generally kill what they don't like. Religeon does not know politics and free trade nor democracy.


How long till the Middle East catches up with the civilised world?

I thought they deported all those wannabe seperatists like Stanton out of the state of CehNehDeh and back to France already?? Back when they were taking a look at the possible Muslimistic undertones of a red state flag.

Putting Kurds on checkpoints would have EVERY car being shot up. What part of 'they don't get along is so hard to grasp?'

It's a terrible thing that happened but it WILL as long as the people there don't heed the check points. The soldiers did exactly what they were trained to do. Few of the people posting here would even have the nerve to go thru the warning steps. You'd have been spraying bullets from the start.

They may NOT understand English (surprisingly MANY do) but language isn't a barrier when the entire population knows what is going on, AND what to expect the minute they go out their doors. Do you think they aren't talking among themselves?? Read the articles closer, they know what is happening faster than some of the soldiers do, just from word of mouth. This is how they survive a dictatorship. Word of mouth.

Someone please walk Stanton to school know. He has a math quiz today and has been studying reallll hard for it! We hope he graduates to 7th grade next year and gets to go to Jr. Hi!! :Graucho

You really are just a retard aint ya?

Dumbass, this war started back in 91 when IRAQ invaded kuwait. We came in and kicked em the fuck out. Since then Saddam has been under UN law to disarm, which he failed to do. Period. There may be underlying reasons bush has and I dont really give a fuck, the fact is he was sposed to do something which he didnt do and is now getting the living shit kicked outta him for it.

SpaceAce, I dont wanna see this guy at the checkpoints. I wanna see him speeding towards one sitting on a keg of explosive.

I just don't think there is a legitimate reason not to stop at an obvious armed checkpoint. Anyone who does so is either a suicide bomber, or intentionally trying to get martyred to make the US troops look bad. Innocent my ass.

Come on, dude, could you tell a kid 4 years old from a soldier?

It's so hard during the sand storms!

It's called grasping at straws.

SpaceAce's sig, despite his protestations, clearly attempts to link civilian casualties in Iraq to some kind of payback for September 11.

There's no other explanation.

We'll liberate them even if it means killing every last man, woman and child in the country! Freedom comes at a price, and we are willing to make them pay it.

actually I think spaceace and that site are making a very clear relation to what iraq calls civillian casualties and what were actually iraq standard and non standard troops.

They are the same for the most part after all. According to iraqi tv we have yet to kill any real troops, we just kill civilians. yeh okay....

I think this has a whole helluva lot to do with culture.

Kinda like the kid I saw on the Frontline documentary about Afghanistan before we went into Afghanistan.

Anyway, the camera is filming this kid who's sitting on this donkey looking right into the lens...a shell of some kind lands about 100 yards behind the kid the camera man jumps, the kid doesn't even flinch.

Now you look at video being shot presently in Iraq...you see coalition soldiers fighting with Iraqi soldiers/militia and right in the middle of the battle here comes some guys just taking a stroll through the neighborhood laughing it up...seriously.

Okay, I can understand those that are fleeing who might get caught up in some crossfire, but you can clearly see those who are NOT fleeing, just out to see a bit of action.

I however in a time of war, if I am not fighting to defend my country would not be out fucking around with the guys on Friday, that's for sure.

What does this have to do with September 11?

My apologies: Just read the text UNDER the image of casualties.

What does this mean then:

"American civilian casualties from the attacks of 9/11/2001: 2,500+. You do the math."

read my last post :thumbsup

I don't wish ill will on anyone, but the straight out simple and plain is motherfucker, Karma's a bitch...and you're gonna reap the whirlwind for the kind of shit you spew forth.

Karma IS a bitch and it's your nation that's going to reap the whirlwind.

How does 100 Bin Laden's sound?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...eut/index.html

What if it's these fuckers reaping theirs you convict spawn.

Which "fuckers" are you referring to?

Also, I have no convict heritage.

Those in power in Iraq, the taliban, any bin laden wannabe...maybe this is their karma...maybe ours is to be victorious in their demise.

Either way, we're already in this...no reason for some shithead sitting behind a computer up in Toronto to call a guy risking his life a coward.

Stanton's bravery will be tested...