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DearAbby 03-28-2003 05:16 PM

If there was a draft, would you go or not?
 
I appreciate the US soldiers liberating Iraq, getting rid of WMD, and fighting terrorism... all that sort of good stuff.

Thats pretty nice of them to do all that for me... but if it came down to me doing it for them??? I really dont think I would be willing to risk my life for my fellow American. I value freedom and stuff... but Im a lazy fucker.

I know it sounds selfish... but fuck it.

Amputate Your Head 03-28-2003 05:21 PM

there won't be a draft.

jact 03-28-2003 05:23 PM

The whole concept of the draft scares me. Thankfully there isn't such a thing in my country (yet).

Amputate Your Head 03-28-2003 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DearAbby
I really dont think I would be willing to risk my life for my fellow American. I value freedom and stuff... but Im a lazy fucker.

I know it sounds selfish... but fuck it.

this is the reason we don't have a draft anymore. No professional soldier wants to be put into a combat situation and have to depend on someone like you that doesn't want to be there and cares more about his television than his life.

[Labret] 03-28-2003 05:28 PM

As if half the kids who joined right now joined thinking they would go to war?

The military in this country is for kids who cant make it to college. Not because they want to fight. Its an easy way out of the ghetto, and an easy way for Joe Ignorant American to get a trade without having to spend 6 years book learnin.

Im not saying everyone is like that, but I am sure its a fucking staggering figure. Every kid I have ever known who joined the military did so to learn a trade, not to fight.

Yup.

DearAbby 03-28-2003 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


this is the reason we don't have a draft anymore. No professional soldier wants to be put into a combat situation and have to depend on someone like you that doesn't want to be there and cares more about his television than his life.


Thats a good thing. I mean if I did want to fight... I definitely would'nt want depend on someone like me.

I cant even shoot a gun. I lost an eye when I was five (accidental BB gun accident)

Amputate Your Head 03-28-2003 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
As if half the kids who joined right now joined thinking they would go to war?

The military in this country is for kids who cant make it to college. Not because they want to fight. Its an easy way out of the ghetto, and an easy way for Joe Ignorant American to get a trade without having to spend 6 years book learnin.

Im not saying everyone is like that, but I am sure its a fucking staggering figure.

Yup.

indeed... when we went in '91, we had a guy refuse to go. Said he didn't sign up for this shit... just wanted to go to school. They stripped him of rank right down to nothing and he pushed a broom outside headquarters until they finally kicked him out.

aztecvision 03-28-2003 05:31 PM

I wanted to be a Marine, but was turned away because I'm deaf from my left ear... Now I have a wife and kids. So I'd tell them to go fuck them selves...:321GFY

[Labret] 03-28-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


indeed... when we went in '91, we had a guy refuse to go. Said he didn't sign up for this shit... just wanted to go to school. They stripped him of rank right down to nothing and he pushed a broom outside headquarters until they finally kicked him out.

As well they should have. You sign the contract, your ass better fight. But then again, I wouldnt want his ass in a hole next to me.

jreaka 03-28-2003 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DearAbby



I cant even shoot a gun. I lost an eye when I was five (accidental BB gun accident)

Are you Ralphie from A Christmas story?

liquidkid 03-28-2003 05:34 PM

IF they start a draft, i'll be picked first round, 19, not going to school, not the only child.

Amputate Your Head 03-28-2003 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


As well they should have. You sign the contract, your ass better fight. But then again, I wouldnt want his ass in a hole next to me.

yep... it was funny as hell. He was the 1st Sergeant's bitch boy for about a year... every filthy stinking menial and degrading job that came up, Private Mills was on it.

Tanker 03-28-2003 05:35 PM

I would go proudly


I wouldnt wait for the draft to get me if it was implemented
means you go in the Army I would volunteer for the Marines

Served in both but I prefered the Marines

Snapper 03-28-2003 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
As if half the kids who joined right now joined thinking they would go to war?



Sorry, but thats a bullshit argument. If you enlist, they tell you several times that you may be called inc ase of war. "I didn't enlist for this shit" is not a valid response. Go work for fuckin burger king, or enlist in the fuckin coast guard if you want to stay in the US and not face combat.

What, did they think basic training was a health test? EVERYONE who joins is told they could go to war.

[Labret] 03-28-2003 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snapper

Sorry, but thats a bullshit argument.

Did anyone say it is a valid argument?

Congrats, you argued with yourself and won. hooray.

Amputate Your Head 03-28-2003 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]


Did anyone say it is a valid argument?

Congrats, you argued with yourself and won. hooray.

:1orglaugh

XxXotic 03-28-2003 06:20 PM

I would

marty 03-28-2003 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DearAbby
I appreciate the US soldiers liberating Iraq, getting rid of WMD, and fighting terrorism... all that sort of good stuff.

Thats pretty nice of them to do all that for me... but if it came down to me doing it for them??? I really dont think I would be willing to risk my life for my fellow American. I value freedom and stuff... but Im a lazy fucker.

I know it sounds selfish... but fuck it.

But you get to shoot towel-heads into the face.

Maybe they'll even let you cut their ears off and make a necklace to wear with pride.

xdcdave 03-28-2003 06:37 PM

I think i'd be in Argentina or on a beach somewhere.. I'm worthless to myself and my wife if I'm dead :thumbsup

Va2k 03-28-2003 06:48 PM

I know ill prolly get flamed but if I didnt have custody of my kids I would join the services in a heat beat. Then Just before I would die I would know in my heart I did something for the good of the world instead of setting back and letting the young men and women do it for me. If I could get a time machien i would join the services at 18 then the fire dept and when i met my ex wife I would run her ass over. *shrugs* but wish I could go and help

TOM

BRISK 03-28-2003 08:02 PM

I hope there is a draft in the states, because then I would move there and be fuckin all the girls that are deprived of all the men aged 18-25 (or whatever the draft age is).

Imagine the girl/guy ratio if a few hundred thousand young men were sent away? Niiiiice! :thumbsup

Joe Sixpack 03-28-2003 08:07 PM

I would die defending my own land and/or family but I would never be stupid enough to die for the economy or the political agendas of the rich and powerful.

czarkazm 03-28-2003 08:08 PM

The question is, if there was a draft, would a Jew go.

FlyingIguana 03-28-2003 08:25 PM

the only draft i'm worried about is the nfl draft! :glugglug

Gutterboy 03-28-2003 08:29 PM

Depends on the cause.

If I was actually fighting a real threat to my freedom, then yes. If it was some bullshit "pre-emptive" war because we have an evil dictator scapegoat and a monkey who wants to play worlds policeman as president.. fuck no.

Carrie 03-28-2003 08:36 PM

I would go. One of my jobs as a parent is to keep my children safe. If the country needed me to keep her safe, that means it needs me to keep my children safe as well.
Hell yeah, I'd go. I want my kids to be as free as I've been all my life.

Carrie 03-28-2003 08:43 PM

Hey Tanker and Amp, if there *was* a draft, would they take me? I know they disqualify certain people. Other than previous broken bones and bad eyesight, I'm pretty healthy (not in shape, but healthy!). As a 32-yr old married mom of two, would they disqualify me?
They might look up my ASFAB score (took it once but first husband wouldn't let me join up - I was 20), I got a 98% on it overall; they tried to talk me into being a translator and I wanted to get dirty and fire guns. Now stupid me looks back and realizes that I could've gone from there to undercover spy-type stuff and I slam my head on the wall anytime I think about it. I'd love to do that.

candyflip 03-28-2003 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
I would die defending my own land and/or family but I would never be stupid enough to die for the economy or the political agendas of the rich and powerful.
Here, Here.

PornoDoggy 03-28-2003 08:48 PM

Fuck that. I burned my last draft card.

(Okay, so I was one of three guys who burned 80 of them, after duly witnessing the list of names and numbers, when I was in boot camp.)

We will be in seriously deep doo-doo if they start drafting people my age. :D

I do think the reimplementation of the draft would be the best thing that ever happened to the so-called peace movement. You'd see a whole lot of keyboard warriors who are very pro war right now start singing a whole different song.

steffie 03-28-2003 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
As if half the kids who joined right now joined thinking they would go to war?

The military in this country is for kids who cant make it to college. Not because they want to fight. Its an easy way out of the ghetto, and an easy way for Joe Ignorant American to get a trade without having to spend 6 years book learnin.

Im not saying everyone is like that, but I am sure its a fucking staggering figure. Every kid I have ever known who joined the military did so to learn a trade, not to fight.

Yup.

My son is in his 20's. His best friend signed up for the army because he couldn't afford college. That was right after highschool 1999.

I just got of the phone with my kid, he told me that Chris is in Iraq (we are digging for old pictures now) and Chris's parents gave me his units address.

I have known Chris since he was 12. He went in for 4 years and supposed to get out in August this year. UHM, don't think he is getting out.

I agree, nobody things they will go to war, its not like the Army advertises, Join Now and go to WAR. they say JOIN now and get your college paid for.

Looks like its paying off for the army now eh?

iroc409 03-28-2003 08:58 PM

someone has got to defend the homeland from the canadians!


:1orglaugh

Mutt 03-28-2003 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
If I could get a time machien i would join the services at 18 then the fire dept and when i met my ex wife I would run her ass over.

TOM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DarkBob 03-28-2003 09:12 PM

If I was called upon I would go, no questions asked.

Rip 03-28-2003 09:17 PM

Just don't send the draft dogers here, we got enough dope smoking welfare bums already

AM Jeff 03-28-2003 09:22 PM

The ones that voted No are a bunch of pussys anyway.

I wouldn't want one of them Mommas boy watching my back anyway.
Let them stay home so Momma can whip their nose.

FlyingIguana 03-28-2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iroc409
someone has got to defend the homeland from the canadians!


:1orglaugh

if it wasn't for all those nukes, the usa would have been the 11th province :winkwink:

Rutopls 03-28-2003 10:37 PM

Sorry... not only would I go, I have put my money where my mouth is. I just came back from the recruiters today and I will be going back into the military. I have 6 years already, and now I feel the need to back my convictions by doing something more then running my mouth on GFY which is alot more then I can say for most of the bithches on here. The paperwork is being filed and in about 8 weeks I will be counted once more among the US Army that I left. I dont really care about the paycut or the fact I will be missing the woman I have loved the last 5 years, because there is something that you learn, above that all, when you are willing to give your life for someone else who is willing to give thier life for you. I will miss your daily bitching on GFY from your warm safe chairs that you actually think your are doing something from.

beemk 03-28-2003 10:44 PM

labret is right, one of my friends just went into the air force because he couldnt handle college.

jimmy3way 03-28-2003 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]
As if half the kids who joined right now joined thinking they would go to war?

The military in this country is for kids who cant make it to college. Not because they want to fight. Its an easy way out of the ghetto, and an easy way for Joe Ignorant American to get a trade without having to spend 6 years book learnin.

Im not saying everyone is like that, but I am sure its a fucking staggering figure. Every kid I have ever known who joined the military did so to learn a trade, not to fight.

Yup.

Who is this [Labret] and why does he make such sense?

aflex 03-28-2003 11:12 PM

i'd go if drafted.. probably air force if i could choose.

sneaker 03-28-2003 11:15 PM

My personal opinion is there will not be a draft, the way war is faught is different then a long time ago when it was tossing young men into a hail of machine gun fire hoping the best. But if my country needed me I would serve, just hope we don't ever see a war where a draft is needed due to the fact it would have to be a world war!!

Danny_C 03-28-2003 11:22 PM

Sorry, I don't kill people, and I don't plan to start unless I truly believe there's no other way.

mika 03-28-2003 11:28 PM

You guys fortunately have a choice

There's conscription in my country.
And we are known for defending our country well, so there would be no motivation problem among men.

Those that cannot pull the trigger do have a choice to go wipe asses of old women in the hospital

:ak47:

Joe Sixpack 03-29-2003 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
labret is right, one of my friends just went into the air force because he couldnt handle college.
It makes my heart sing knowing that morons are dying because the government tells them it's right and honourable... and they're defending freedom and all that crap.

Talk about cleaning up the gene pool.

The armed forces is finally making sense to me.

mika 03-29-2003 01:00 AM

Joe you're right. That's called evolution :thumbsup

Joe Sixpack 03-29-2003 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mika
Joe you're right. That's called evolution :thumbsup
We just need to keep these monkies separate from the rest of civilized society and breed them specifically for fighting wars.

They should under no circumstances be allowed to breed with the general population.

Perfect.


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