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Bladewire 06-02-2016 06:40 AM

Iraq War Vet: Trump Fired Me ?Because I Was In The Military?
 
?I was fired because I was in the military,? she told attorneys as part of an unrelated fraud case against Trump University. ?At the end of my [performance] evaluation, they wrote that it was a problem that I was in the military.? Sommer was an Army staff sergeant who had deployed to Iraq in 2003.

Her reservist commitment amounted to two days a month, she said.

She said she ?won? her case when the company agreed to settle with her, rather than go to trial. ?They found that there was probable cause enough to settle,? she said.

"...at the Trump-owned Trump University, the time required by some reservists to fulfill their military commitments clashed with the demands of their seminar-providing duties. And some of their managers were seemingly unaware that it is a violation of federal law to penalize an employee for absences caused by military service." SOURCE

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Uh Oh "...they wrote that it was a problem that I was in the military.?

Trump said he never settles lawsuits though?

woj 06-02-2016 07:43 AM

bottom line is, if you can't do the job you are paid to do, then employer should have the right to let you go... so I don't see why there is any drama...

you need someone to give seminars every weekend, someone who is unable to do that is obviously useless to you... there is also the minor detail that reservist can get deployed at moments notice, leaving you, the employer, completely fucked...

Would you keep someone who is unable to do his/her job on the payroll? How can you blame the HR person for doing something that clearly makes sense and is in the best interest of the company?

Not to mention, this has nothing to do with Trump, some mid-level HR person who works at a company that licensed Trump's name made that decision...

Paul Markham 06-02-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20935337)
bottom line is, if you can't do the job you are paid to do, then employer should have the right to let you go... so I don't see why there is any drama....

It is a violation of federal law to penalize an employee for absences caused by military service.

Seems your bottom line wrong.

woj 06-02-2016 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20935631)
It is a violation of federal law to penalize an employee for absences caused by military service.

Seems your bottom line wrong.

it's debatable if that is "penalizing an employee"... that employee is simply unable to perform the job... job requires your presence EVERY weekend to lead a seminar, you are unable to do it, so you don't qualify for the job... seems pretty damn simple...

but of course that didn't stop the employee from using some loophole in the labor law from milking an employer out of a nice chunk of change...

woj 06-02-2016 09:51 AM

How can you not see the logic? you hire a male model for shoots that you usually do on the weekends... first weekend goes well, next weekend you find out that the guy is in the military and needs to do training every other weekend...

you obviously tell him, "we do shoots every weekend, so I need you to be here every weekend, sorry, but this isn't going to work..."... you let him go, he later sues you... how can you with a straight face say that there is nothing wrong with that? and on top of that, you, an employer who had best intentions, are labeled as some villain?

MrBottomTooth 06-02-2016 09:53 AM

Nevermind I can't read today.

Rochard 06-02-2016 10:02 AM

So much for supporting Veterans huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20935646)
it's debatable if that is "penalizing an employee"... that employee is simply unable to perform the job... job requires your presence EVERY weekend to lead a seminar, you are unable to do it, so you don't qualify for the job... seems pretty damn simple...

but of course that didn't stop the employee from using some loophole in the labor law from milking an employer out of a nice chunk of change...

OMG.... It's stunning that anyone would say this.

Being a reservist requires two days a month, plus a week (or perhaps two) twice a year. It really shouldn't be too difficult for an employer to work around that. There are full time doctors who save lives who have employers can figure out a way to allow them to have a single weekend off a month.

It's very simple. Trump violated Federal law.

woj 06-02-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20935688)
So much for supporting Veterans huh?

OMG.... It's stunning that anyone would say this.

Being a reservist requires two days a month, plus a week (or perhaps two) twice a year. It really shouldn't be too difficult for an employer to work around that. There are full time doctors who save lives who have employers can figure out a way to allow them to have a single weekend off a month.

It's very simple. Trump violated Federal law.

those 2 days per month are on the weekends... days when seminars are usually held...

you don't see how having an employee who is not around 25% of the time you need him might be a problem? :error

plaster 06-02-2016 10:30 AM

Squirt, you are single handingly going to bury trump with your amazing findings and hitler comparisons. Amazing research going on up in this bitch...

dyna mo 06-02-2016 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20935631)
It is a violation of federal law to penalize an employee for absences caused by military service.

Seems your bottom line wrong.


dingbat, she alleges that's why she was fired.

dyna mo 06-02-2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20935688)

It's very simple. Trump violated Federal law.

proof?

speaking of lack of proof to support your wild claims:

Military Times survey: Troops prefer Trump to Clinton by a huge margin


ahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Rochard 06-02-2016 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20935703)
those 2 days per month are on the weekends... days when seminars are usually held...

you don't see how having an employee who is not around 25% of the time you need him might be a problem? :error

You sure about that?

Do you honestly mean to tell me that Trump University only operated eight days a month, on Saturdays and Sundays ONLY? So this huge company only worked on weekends? There was no office where had staff working Monday through Friday? They didn't do seminars during the week?

I did some searching and looked for dates of Trump University Seminars.... And found some. They had seminars on August 12 2008, August 13 2008, and August 14 2008. That's a Tuesday, Wednesday, and a Thursday.

Real Estate Seminar List

So if Trump University did seminars on Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Fridays, why did they have to fire this guy because he was a reservist in the military and needed one weekend a month to train?

But Trump loves veterans, lol.

woj 06-02-2016 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20935832)
You sure about that?

Do you honestly mean to tell me that Trump University only operated eight days a month, on Saturdays and Sundays ONLY? So this huge company only worked on weekends? There was no office where had staff working Monday through Friday? They didn't do seminars during the week?

I did some searching and looked for dates of Trump University Seminars.... And found some. They had seminars on August 12 2008, August 13 2008, and August 14 2008. That's a Tuesday, Wednesday, and a Thursday.

Real Estate Seminar List

So if Trump University did seminars on Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Fridays, why did they have to fire this guy because he was a reservist in the military and needed one weekend a month to train?

But Trump loves veterans, lol.

...on that site, 2 posts below the seminar you mentioned is this one:

"Real Estate Retirement Retreat

When: July 26-27, 2008
Where: Los Angeles, CA
Cost: $995 (contact me for a way to get it for $495)
...

Trump University's Real Estate Retirement Retreat is the perfect opportunity for you to learn how real estate investment can help you retire early and wealthy. For many baby boomers, real estate investment may be the only way to fund retirement. Whether you're 30 or 60, it isn't too late to retire wealthy if you have a plan. And that's what you will have when you attend our Real Estate Retirement Retreat in Los Angeles on July 26th and 27th"


What days of the week does July 26-27, 2008, fall on? maybe the person that was let go was running this "retirement retreat" which is usually held on the weekends? Do you have ANY evidence that this statement is not accurate: "... at the Trump-owned Trump University, the time required by some reservists to fulfill their military commitments clashed with the demands of their seminar-providing duties..."?

plaster 06-02-2016 11:40 AM

July 26th 2008 was a Saturday.

woj 06-02-2016 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20935922)
July 26th 2008 was a Saturday.

chi-ching... we have a winner... :thumbsup
which happens to be the same day of the week that reservist training takes place... :helpme

dyna mo 06-02-2016 11:50 AM

that one time i got fired when i was a youngster wasn't my fault either. it was trump's fault.

print it!

Rochard 06-02-2016 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20935910)
...on that site, 2 posts below the seminar you mentioned is this one:

"Real Estate Retirement Retreat

When: July 26-27, 2008
Where: Los Angeles, CA
Cost: $995 (contact me for a way to get it for $495)
...

Magical. Outstanding. So the two of us have proven that Trump University had seminars on both week days and weekends.

But the truth is they broke federal law by firing a reservist because he had military duty on one weekend a month. They had seminars during the week so clearly it was possible. But Trump has a long history of violating federal law. How many times has the federal government taken Trump to court because he has violated federal law or otherwise refused to pay his taxes?

Trump doesn't even support active duty military - what makes anyone think he supports veterans? Because he had a single fund raiser?

beerptrol 06-02-2016 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20935967)
that one time i got fired when i was a youngster wasn't my fault either. it was trump's fault.

print it!



You were fired for drinking on the job at the local sperm bank! Probably the Trump Juice

dyna mo 06-02-2016 03:46 PM

That's what youngsters do? You might want to be careful vocalizing your homosexual pedophile fantasy.

crockett 06-02-2016 04:54 PM

HEY GUYS! It's about Hillary.. You hurt the conservabros feelings if you tell the truth about trump, in other words say what they don't want to hear.

Come on now, conservabros have delicate feelings and are prone to rage fits if upset. Find something to blame Hillary for or don't say anything at all.. We have to be PC so they don't cry or have to make lame excuses.

dyna mo 06-02-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20936528)
HEY GUYS! It's about Hillary.. You hurt the conservabros feelings if you tell the truth about trump, in other words say what they don't want to hear.

Come on now, conservabros have delicate feelings and are prone to rage fits if upset. Find something to blame Hillary for or don't say anything at all.. We have to be PC so they don't cry or have to make lame excuses.

why did you change the subject to hills? for someone that claims to not like her, you sure defend her all the time, even when she hasn't even been mentioned.

crockett 06-02-2016 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20936555)
why did you change the subject to hills? for someone that claims to not like her, you sure defend her all the time, even when she hasn't even been mentioned.

Because we all know you guys can't handle anything bad being said about Trump. I'm just helping stop another 3 pages of whining about liberals and lame excuses for Trump.

dyna mo 06-02-2016 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20936564)
Because we all know you guys can't handle anything bad being said about Trump. I'm just helping stop another 3 pages of whining about liberals and lame excuses for Trump.

typical liberal agenda.

crockett 06-02-2016 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20936570)
typical liberal agenda.

weak sauce..

dyna mo 06-02-2016 05:42 PM

that's what i've been trying to tell you for a year + now, the typical liberal agenda is so weak it's propelled donald trump, a guy with 3500 lawsuits who talks out his ass,into viable opponent.

weak sauce indeed.

Paul Markham 06-02-2016 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20935760)
dingbat, she alleges that's why she was fired.

I was stating a fact and not this case. Is English your first language?

dyna mo 06-02-2016 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20936975)
I was stating a fact and not this case. Is English your first language?


Markham's right,

Hillary high 5!

Trump joke

kane 06-02-2016 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20935646)
it's debatable if that is "penalizing an employee"... that employee is simply unable to perform the job... job requires your presence EVERY weekend to lead a seminar, you are unable to do it, so you don't qualify for the job... seems pretty damn simple...

but of course that didn't stop the employee from using some loophole in the labor law from milking an employer out of a nice chunk of change...

It is very simple. If they hired this person knowing that they were in the military reserves and would have to go serve one weekend a month then fired them for not being available on that weekend they are the wrong and violated the law.

If they were not told up front that they were in the military when they hired this person then they could make the case that they need to let them go. Based on the article it seems like they knew and like she even tried to work with them by switching the days she went.

kane 06-02-2016 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20935976)
Magical. Outstanding. So the two of us have proven that Trump University had seminars on both week days and weekends.

But the truth is they broke federal law by firing a reservist because he had military duty on one weekend a month. They had seminars during the week so clearly it was possible. But Trump has a long history of violating federal law. How many times has the federal government taken Trump to court because he has violated federal law or otherwise refused to pay his taxes?

Trump doesn't even support active duty military - what makes anyone think he supports veterans? Because he had a single fund raiser?

According to USA Today Trump has been involved in about 3,500 lawsuits. He was the defendant in about 1,300 of them. About 150 of them dealt with bankruptcy and he has had about 70 suits filed against him just since he began running for president.

Bladewire 06-03-2016 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 20935655)
How can you not see the logic? you hire a male model for shoots that you usually do on the weekends... first weekend goes well, next weekend you find out that the guy is in the military and needs to do training every other weekend...

you obviously tell him, "we do shoots every weekend, so I need you to be here every weekend, sorry, but this isn't going to work..."... you let him go, he later sues you... how can you with a straight face say that there is nothing wrong with that? and on top of that, you, an employer who had best intentions, are labeled as some villain?

You don't get it.

Trump gets a WOTC tax credit for every veteran he hires, that's why they hired so many for Trump U.

He then breaks federal law and fires one for needing 2 days off a month for service.

The veteran sues, then get's a settlement payment, because Trump was wrong to fire her under those circumstances.

Simple :thumbsup

Rochard 06-03-2016 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20937002)
According to USA Today Trump has been involved in about 3,500 lawsuits. He was the defendant in about 1,300 of them. About 150 of them dealt with bankruptcy and he has had about 70 suits filed against him just since he began running for president.

Anyone involved in so many lawsuits.... Is obviously crooked.

Rochard 06-03-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20938448)
You don't get it.

Trump gets a WOTC tax credit for every veteran he hires, that's why they hired so many for Trump U.

He then breaks federal law and fires one for needing 2 days off a month for service.

The veteran sues, then get's a settlement payment, because Trump was wrong to fire her under those circumstances.

Simple :thumbsup

So Trump gets a tax credit for every veteran he hires, and then kicks them to the curb because they can't work two days a month? Either way Trump ripped off Americans.

woj 06-03-2016 02:03 PM

yea, "ripped off Americans"... the employee didn't work out for whatever the reason... and that's the end of the story... whether it's the 2 days off on the weekends that was the problem or perhaps her poor work ethics or perhaps dozens of other possible reasons is as far as I'm concerned irrelevant...

you left-wing guys always have this victim mentality, always looking for some excuse, someone to blame, etc... job didn't work out, that's unfortunate, but so you get up and get another one, not go to some labor law lawyer crying like a little girl to try to use some loophole in the law to squeeze some easy $$ out of your ex-employer...

and all of you are cheering her on like she did the right thing... pathetic.. :2 cents:


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