Its not us. Its our government.
 

This phrase was said by a 14 year old boy from bagdhad in reference to the US/UN embargo punishing the nation of Iraq instead of the government of Iraq. Incidentally, the US/UN embargo has killed 500,000 Iraqis, most of them children.

For everyone anti-USA or UK on this board, I think it is important to keep in mind that there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of American and British Citizens who are opposed to the war in Iraq.

Even in a "democracy" (which the USA hardly is, anyway), up to 50% of the people's wants, desires and wishes are completely disregarded.

Do not judge US on what our government does.

I think your estimate is a little bit off. :1orglaugh

Agree with him or not, i just spent a good hour disucssing politics with em, he definitely knows his shit.

I felt like a one armed man in a boxing match arguing with em :1orglaugh

Its not mine. Those are the numbers from the UN itself.

the usa only has like 300 million people. and recent polls show upwards of 70% support it. Its just that the other 30% is the most vocal.

i love polls.
they are so freaking accurate.
:1orglaugh

I think they fall into the same category as elections :)

Completely worthless?

COMMUNISTS!

have a look at this:

carlyle group: make money with war

http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html

do a crtl+f for : bin laden
do a crtl+f for : bush

there was a carlyle group meeting in geneva, switzerland, recently, that's why i know

Actually it's our military industrial complex. If you've ever done Defense work, the cycle is obvious.

For the zillionth time, wake up and face reality. The world is controlled by wealthy individuals, families, dictators, and multinational corporations.

So what else is new? You think anyone's election votes really count or mean anything? Trust me the kabols got both sides of the fence covered.

The rich get richer, and the poor get fucked over and that's just the way of the jungle.

Hahaha just saw this pic on there.

http://www.hereinreality.com/news/partying.jpg

PresidentialFamilyCatfightVideos.com ? :1orglaugh

http://www.hereinreality.com/news/kidsgonewild.jpg

This is a complete lie. The UN has allowed ALL types of humanitarian aid into the country. If 500,000 iraqis died (which I doubt is true) its because of their own government.

you liberals crack me up. A thousand protesters here, a thousand there and all the sudden you have "hundreds of millions" :1orglaugh

ahhh, a liberal AND a US hater! typical. last poll I saw over 80% of Americans supported the war. Not, the troops, not the president, not the liberals, they supported the *war*


Please judge me by what it does.
:Graucho

How come none of these hippies are talking about the water mines found yesterday by the boats trying to bring Aid in? They found 2 mines just out of a cleared path in the waterway.

We may have lost a dolphin or 2 but that act by Saddam and his forces only proves he is willing to blow up any innocent person or boat if we attempt to bring aid to his people.

the hippies always leave out things like this.

he delays 200 tons of Aid and then the hippies claim we arent helping

hjahah

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_765132.html

I respect your opinion but your numbers are a complete lie. With over 70% approval for action in the U.S., the left over 30% would only result in some 30 million adults. Recent polls in Britain also reflect a similiar number. It is very important to note that many of those that opposed war do so becuase they wanted U.N. approval before military action. That means that they weren't against war, but were against the process and path towards war.

Get your facts right. I totally respect you point of view. You are free to express it, defended by the blood and tradition of culture. I would hope that Iraqis will one day have the same right to express their thoughts without fear of death by its own government.

Peace at all cost is always too expensive.

I just heard Bush claim the alliancem now is more than in the Gulf War now as far as allies with us.

Its just all the focus is going to those who oppose it.

thats what was said in the latest briefing anyhow.

Found this in looking it up more info on my previous post:

Allied forces in first Gulf War:

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'The Allied coalition consisted of 34 countries, including Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, The United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States.'
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http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/gul...facts/gulfwar/


according here: 49

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82312,00.html

This phrase came from a 14 year old in Iraq? You're kidding me, right?

You take a 14 year old Iraqi kids "information" as fact?

You want facts? Read up:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...s+ about+Iraq

I posted plenty of facts. Directly from the official UN website.

Read up. Interesting stuff. See who's really behind those deaths.

You guys amaze me. You think the UN would let these people starve for 10 years? The UN Humanitarian Committee is already extremely concerned now, after only 8 days.

Rgardless of whether or not you agree with the decision to go to war, our people are there. We need to support our people over there and do our part to ensure their quick and safe return.

I saw a picture of an Iraqi soldier receiving medical treatment from one our guys on the cover of an Atlanta news paper today. And I saw this from the AP- " Defense officials who have viewed the tape have said privately that several of the bodies had execution-style gunshot wounds to their heads. "


That just pisses me off-

Get it done and come back home

Answer my ICQ dammit!! LOL

Pffff. Incidentally, you are wrong and don't have a clue.

To all US and Brit forces doing there job that they willingly volunteer for.:thumbsup :thumbsup